How long will clenelo duck charlo for?

Where is Charlo????

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Every guy you named is able to fight on DAZN and every one of them would rather fight Canelo for the lineal belt or even for no belt. They’re all also (arguably of course) better fights. Being honest, I’d rather see Canelo fight GGG, Jacobs, BJS as theyve shown to be better. Not that I dont want to see a Charlo fight, but the difference is we know he can fight those guys on DAZN and Andrade seems like he’ll join the mix. I’d prefer Charlo over that but we’re talking options and there are many for Canelo, with many being better options. We’ll see how atteched he is to that title but history shows us he doesnt care that much. DAZN has Alvarez signed and Andrade signed, and Daniel Jacobs us 4 fights into a deal that likely matched the dates offered by HBO; every other middleweight is basically in flux (no different than with Anthony Joshua, Ryota Murata is making too much money in his home country fighting whomever to bother with US TV politics beyond 'Mr Honda is okay with Bob Arum handling the US stuff'. We'll have the results for Andrade-Kautondokwa and Derevyanchenko-Jacobs (in addition to Murata-Brant), Canelo fights Fielding, and then Alvarez will pick one fight for Cinco de Mayo weekend, with the fallout moving accordingly. He's either fighting Charlo, fighting one of the vacant titles winners, vacating to go to a third fight with Golovkin, flipping everyone the bird and vacating to fight Lemieux or Munguia, or sticking at 168lbs and eyeing fights there. Regardless of what he does, not everyone is going to sit out and wait for the next Canelo date in September; Billy Joe Saunders is going to want a meaningful fight, the Derevyanchenko-Jacobs winner is going to want a good fight, the Andrade-Kautondokwa winner of going to want a fight, Jermall Charlo is going to want to fight, and the rest of the division will still move around (no idea what type of ratings the show is doing, but the winner of The Contender should be near enough to a good fight too).

Canelo has to fight him, or Canelo loses the belt, full stop. Call him paper champion if you want, he's still champ. Derevyanchenko is on the Haymon side with his title shot, Billy Joe Saunders is signed with Frank Warren (how taking a mandated fight on the best terms he could get turned to a Frank Warren fighter not being beholden to DAZN is beyond me), and Daniel Jacobs is still welcome on the Haymon side of the fence (with Haymon helping set the deal up, there's no doubt in my mind that he had the HBO deal and the Matchroom Sport deal synced up; the Derevyanchenko fight is the 4th fight with Matchroom Sport, just to keep count). Count the noses. The Sulecki fight in December on FOX (that seems to be the rumor), and then we'll see the fallout. Every guy you named is able to fight on DAZN and every one of them would rather fight Canelo for the lineal belt or even for no belt. They’re all also (arguably of course) better fights. Being honest, I’d rather see Canelo fight GGG, Jacobs, BJS as theyve shown to be better. Not that I dont want to see a Charlo fight, but the difference is we know he can fight those guys on DAZN and Andrade seems like he’ll join the mix. I’d prefer Charlo over that but we’re talking options and there are many for Canelo, with many being better options. We’ll see how atteched he is to that title but history shows us he doesnt care that much.

those two brought a name and money to the table, thats why oscar gave haymon fighters the lotto ticket... still charlo is getting his shot after canelos voluntary, not the first time canelo takes on a high risk low reward fight... People were saying the same about Trout. Until he beat him. People were saying the same about Lara. Until Lara ran and lost via Cuban style running. People were saying the same about GGG. Until he tied, then beat him in the 2nd fight. The only fighter Canelo should have left alone was Mayweather as he was too young and green.

Why in hell would he duck an undercard fighter? Have you people lost your minds?! Cnelo just fought a monster twice, and you're telling me he will duck a guy whose best win is Williams? WTF is Williams? Where is he now? Welcome to the club. I don't understand it either.

hopefully not as long as GGG ducked Charlo This was a big let down for me because I actually think GGG takes him out.

So basically, do a whole lot of nothing against a whole lot of no one and live off of “being ducked” by his 12 fans in houston. Meanwhile, Jacobs, Andrade, and BJS are with DAZN and GGG is free to fight wherever. Charlo can set up shop in Houston and fight nobody and be nobody in Houston with a belt. He’d be the only paper champ of 160. Fact is, he’s at best top 5 in the division right now and everybody seems to have bigger fish to fry. I like Charlo a lot but unless he makes the effort to fight good fights and make people want to watch him fight the big dogs, he’s going to waste his time with the willie monroes and sulecki’s and whatever left overs the big dogs toss down. And the duck call wont work as he’s drastically less accomplished than at *least* 4 current MWs. He’s in dire need of a Jacobs or GGG type fight. He needs to headhunt, not b itch about a title. It’s not about which belt you have but who you beat for it if you’re in a division with 2 p4p guys. Canelo has to fight him, or Canelo loses the belt, full stop. Call him paper champion if you want, he's still champ. Derevyanchenko is on the Haymon side with his title shot, Billy Joe Saunders is signed with Frank Warren (how taking a mandated fight on the best terms he could get turned to a Frank Warren fighter not being beholden to DAZN is beyond me), and Daniel Jacobs is still welcome on the Haymon side of the fence (with Haymon helping set the deal up, there's no doubt in my mind that he had the HBO deal and the Matchroom Sport deal synced up; the Derevyanchenko fight is the 4th fight with Matchroom Sport, just to keep count). Count the noses. The Sulecki fight in December on FOX (that seems to be the rumor), and then we'll see the fallout.

Wrong side of the street doe.

Charlo is the #1 challenger and interim champion; he's already owed the mandatory and if Golovkin continues to not want to bother with the fight (K2 has petitioned for the direct third fight and failed, Golovkin and Co are set to go to Japan with eyes on a Murata fight for the Spring, etc). If Canelo drops the belt, he drops the belt; Charlo gets elevated to full WBC champion, and Charlo looks to impress in his performances against Sulecki, Willie Monroe Jr, the winner of this run of The Contender, the Derevyanchenko-Jacobs winner at some point, and whomever else emerges along the way. Charlo sets up shop in Houston, looks great in his fights, and keeps his name in the mix, while Canelo moves behind his streaming paywall. So basically, do a whole lot of nothing against a whole lot of no one and live off of “being ducked” by his 12 fans in houston. Meanwhile, Jacobs, Andrade, and BJS are with DAZN and GGG is free to fight wherever. Charlo can set up shop in Houston and fight nobody and be nobody in Houston with a belt. He’d be the only paper champ of 160. Fact is, he’s at best top 5 in the division right now and everybody seems to have bigger fish to fry. I like Charlo a lot but unless he makes the effort to fight good fights and make people want to watch him fight the big dogs, he’s going to waste his time with the willie monroes and sulecki’s and whatever left overs the big dogs toss down. And the duck call wont work as he’s drastically less accomplished than at *least* 4 current MWs. He’s in dire need of a Jacobs or GGG type fight. He needs to headhunt, not b itch about a title. It’s not about which belt you have but who you beat for it if you’re in a division with 2 p4p guys.

Yup hilarious canelo has already fought numerous boogymen in multiple weight classes GGG has her to fight 1! Mr 154 or 168 refused to ever move weight or take a risk camped out crushing tomato cans waiting for canelo then got his face broken. Now going to duck Charlo and go back to tomato cans begging for a 3rd canelo fight. Canelo has proven he will take risks go up or down weight to challenge himself when will GGG? And that confuses me about today's fans. They praise those with great performances but take little risks and have thin resumes, and bash those who are in competitive fights but fight the best.

So this is the new one? You all got bored of GGG already? :lol1: That last fight def hurt many souls. On to a new narrative. He ducking Trout, He ducking Lara, he ducking GGG, he ducking GGG rematch, he ducking Charlo. :lol1: Yup hilarious canelo has already fought numerous boogymen in multiple weight classes GGG has her to fight 1! Mr 154 or 168 refused to ever move weight or take a risk camped out crushing tomato cans waiting for canelo then got his face broken. Now going to duck Charlo and go back to tomato cans begging for a 3rd canelo fight. Canelo has proven he will take risks go up or down weight to challenge himself when will GGG?

So this is the new one? You all got bored of GGG already? :lol1: That last fight def hurt many souls. On to a new narrative. He ducking Trout, He ducking Lara, he ducking GGG, he ducking GGG rematch, he ducking Charlo. :lol1:

yeah charlo's on top of the world. this is good kanye type delusion No one is saying that he's on top of the world, but simply making the point that he's in a position where he doesn't have to beg.

Charlo is the #1 challenger and interim champion; he's already owed the mandatory and if Golovkin continues to not want to bother with the fight (K2 has petitioned for the direct third fight and failed, Golovkin and Co are set to go to Japan with eyes on a Murata fight for the Spring, etc). If Canelo drops the belt, he drops the belt; Charlo gets elevated to full WBC champion, and Charlo looks to impress in his performances against Sulecki, Willie Monroe Jr, the winner of this run of The Contender, the Derevyanchenko-Jacobs winner at some point, and whomever else emerges along the way. Charlo sets up shop in Houston, looks great in his fights, and keeps his name in the mix, while Canelo moves behind his streaming paywall. yeah charlo's on top of the world. this is good kanye type delusion

Charlo's (Terry Norris) twins are not a threat. (ZERO chin)

That was against GGG though who had gone years as the mandatory iirc. Canelo will drop that ish in an instant if they try to order him to do something he doesnt want and that is not the position you want to be in as Charlo. The end game is Canelo and being recognized as THE champ at the division and not that belt in particular. But hey, we’ll see. I wouldnt put it past the WBC to let GGG fight someone else for the interem title if Charlo chooses not to fight him for example and lead that back into a big money fight. Hell, he (Canelo) could drop it all together and fight for the WBO or build to that. In house fight afterall. Charlo is the #1 challenger and interim champion; he's already owed the mandatory and if Golovkin continues to not want to bother with the fight (K2 has petitioned for the direct third fight and failed, Golovkin and Co are set to go to Japan with eyes on a Murata fight for the Spring, etc). If Canelo drops the belt, he drops the belt; Charlo gets elevated to full WBC champion, and Charlo looks to impress in his performances against Sulecki, Willie Monroe Jr, the winner of this run of The Contender, the Derevyanchenko-Jacobs winner at some point, and whomever else emerges along the way. Charlo sets up shop in Houston, looks great in his fights, and keeps his name in the mix, while Canelo moves behind his streaming paywall.

The WBC is shiesty, but even they have a level that they won't pass. They let Alvarez vacate the belt before, and to act like it won't happen again is a bit much. That was against GGG though who had gone years as the mandatory iirc. Canelo will drop that ish in an instant if they try to order him to do something he doesnt want and that is not the position you want to be in as Charlo. The end game is Canelo and being recognized as THE champ at the division and not that belt in particular. But hey, we’ll see. I wouldnt put it past the WBC to let GGG fight someone else for the interem title if Charlo chooses not to fight him for example and lead that back into a big money fight. Hell, he (Canelo) could drop it all together and fight for the WBO or build to that. In house fight afterall.

Honestly, no one will care if he passes on Charlo for a better fighter unless Charlo and GGG square up as ordered and Charlo wins. Charlo is already getting a crack at the interim with GGG. You have to remember this is the WBC we’re talking about. They’ll do whatever to keep a belt on Canelo in some way. The main thing is being the lineal champ, I dont doubt Canelo would drop the wbc again if it goes against what he wants. And now that he’s with DAZN, I’m not sure how this is going to work. Charlo’s easiest way to Canelo will be through GGG and then his team will have to cave to let him fight Canelo on DAZN. If Charlo doesnt fight AND beat GGG (which it seems highly unlikely he could beat GGG) he’s going to have nothing to offer Canelo..no name or urgency and on a different network. Charlo is going to have to REAAALLY earn it. It’s not going to be easy for him to land it at this point. Canelo will get the benefit of the doubt because of his extensive pro history and dramatically (ridiculously) better resume. It’s not a duck and no one will see it as such. Now..will the network duck Charlo in a year or two’s time because of the new deal and they have in house plans? Thats another story. The WBC is shiesty, but even they have a level that they won't pass. They let Alvarez vacate the belt before, and to act like it won't happen again is a bit much.

The WBC isn't going to let Alvarez fight a voluntary against Fielding at 168, and then take another voluntary at 160. If that's the plan, he may as well vacate the WBC belt now. Charlo only really needs his shot at the WBC belt, be it against Alvarez or someone else; no different than with Errol Spence Jr, he and his brother have been built up more than enough to carry Lions Only Promotions events in Houston (to go along with the general Brooklyn, Vegas, Los Angeles trifecta that have basically been built into boxing cities at this point). He's the mandatory challenger, and the WBC has already made it publicly clear that, after Alvarez fights whomever he wants in December (turns out he picked wba medalist Rocky Fielding), he's next. Be patient, stay on top of the work, fight when you need to fight (Charlo getting the opportunity to launch the new PBC on FOX effort is a good luck), and hold firm to the rulings. If Canelo wants to give up a belt again (this time with a challenger who hasn't rushed him or impeded a fight), he'll hope to have something to sell to his fans as to why. Honestly, no one will care if he passes on Charlo for a better fighter unless Charlo and GGG square up as ordered and Charlo wins. Charlo is already getting a crack at the interim with GGG. You have to remember this is the WBC we’re talking about. They’ll do whatever to keep a belt on Canelo in some way. The main thing is being the lineal champ, I dont doubt Canelo would drop the wbc again if it goes against what he wants. And now that he’s with DAZN, I’m not sure how this is going to work. Charlo’s easiest way to Canelo will be through GGG and then his team will have to cave to let him fight Canelo on DAZN. If Charlo doesnt fight AND beat GGG (which it seems highly unlikely he could beat GGG) he’s going to have nothing to offer Canelo..no name or urgency and on a different network. Charlo is going to have to REAAALLY earn it. It’s not going to be easy for him to land it at this point. Canelo will get the benefit of the doubt because of his extensive pro history and dramatically (ridiculously) better resume. It’s not a duck and no one will see it as such. Now..will the network duck Charlo in a year or two’s time because of the new deal and they have in house plans? Thats another story.