Floyd was a natural 135 pounder, GGG is a natural SMW that fights as a middle weight.
Did we all want Leonard going up in weight to fight Tyson back in the 80's...........smh
Floyd was a champion at 154. Golovkin said he'll come down to 154 to fight Floyd. The end.
This thread is dumber than most of the garbage we see on NSB. Golovkin is a natural SMW? How'd you manage to pull that out of your ass? He's never struggled making weight, came in at 158 several times, always weighs less than 170 30 days out of the fight and on fight night.
Yeh for sure.
Ward and GGG were same weight classes or close enough
Another gold nugget of knowledge. During 2004 Olympics, Ward fought at LHW and Golovkin fought at MW. Ward was 20 years old during 2004 Olympics, Golovkin was 22. When Golovkin competed at age 20, he competed at Light Middleweight.
Crawl your insecure casual butt back under the rock.
You must have forgot Leonard moved all the way to Super MW to fight Donnie LaLonde for his LHW title and the new WBC SMW title. Also fought Hagler at MW, a far better fighter than GGG.
GGG offered to come down to 154 to fight Floyd. Sergio Martinez offered to come all the way down to 150 to fight Floyd for his 154 title. Crickets.
I guess I'm one of the few that thought Mayweather would have no problem with Golovkin. He looked slower and way more predictable than Canelo. He wouldn't catch Mayweather with anything significant because Mayweather's defefensive skills are better than anyone else he faced. In the first fight he could hardly land anything on Canelo. In the second fight Canelo stood infront of him and traded and yet he didn't do much better. Golovkin is a fighter that likes a stationary fighter who would start wilting as soon as he starts punching. Once he sees punches coming back he starts to second guessing himself. I don't think Mayweather could've hurt him but he would be deceptive enough to have Golovkin swing at air quite a bit. The story would be the much younger Golovkin was too old and Mayweather waited for him to pass his prime.
The thing the don't understand or don't agree with is that the 28 year old 160 pound Canelo who fought GGG is ten times the fighter that the 23 year old 152 pound .
false perception to say he is 10 times the fighter is way overboard sure he has improved but don't forget not more than 3 or 4 fights ago he was being outboxed by Amir Khan before he killed him
if he had really improved that much he would have not have been outboxed for those 4 rounds now imagine if floyd fought him that night instead of khan you think the result would have been any different to their first match up? of course not
more to the point canelo hasnt face anyone like floyd since so theres no proof he has improved 10 times its just an excuse to discredit floyds win vs canelo remember floyd almost white washed him 12 rounds the gulf in class was huge
I never understood the obsession with people wanting to see Mayweather fought higher and higher in weight, they claim they don’t rate him but they still want to see him fight out of his natural weight classes. The standard set for him were definitely higher than anyone else
You've twisted logic. The standards set for Floyd were not higher, on the contrary the standards Floyd set himself were lower. You want Floyd to be as highly rated as duran, srl and Pac, and that is why people want Floyd out of his natural weight class.
Nobody is asking of Floyd that they wouldn't ask if others, and others hadn't done previously. I mean if p a c can be a 8 division titilist why is asking Floyd to fight Ggg being unrealistic and seen as bullying floyd? you didn't need to ask Duran or Pac to step up in weight, they did it all of their own doing nobody needed to pressure them into it. I mean Floyd never fought in someone's backyard before even. So if you don't want to prove yourself fighting in people's backyards then I want to see you win titles in 8, 9 or 10 divisions. If your not prepared to do that then I want to see you travel world fighting in people's backyards. Floyd fans response is to cry at the injustice
Hagler fought when they had same day weigh-ins. He was a genuine 160. Golovkin is 170+ in the ring.
So why cw with green nelo? The standards for Floyd are lower than of the higher echelon ATGs. It's all about zero
It’s really simple, desperation to see Floyd lose and lose to a white man hence why they skip 154 and Lara. This site has huge racial undertones it really is a shyt hole.
Floyd was a natural 135 pounder, GGG is a natural SMW that fights as a middle weight.
Did we all want Leonard going up in weight to fight Tyson back in the 80's...........smh
I never thought or opined that Floyd should fight Golovkin because they are different sizes, but saying Floyd is a natural 135lber is just plain wrong - by the time he reached his full 'man size' he was a full blown Welter - smaller than some sure (just as there's some MWs who rehydrate waaay more than GGG) and Golovkin is bang average for a MW - if anything a little smaller than most.
In the end they were two divisions apart by natural size, but since GGG suggested he could come to 154 where Floyd held a title, it wasn't an entirely illegitimate proposition... like you say though, Floyd would have been at a very significant size disadvantage.
On a related note,I never get this thing about fighters who turn pro young getting special credit just for getting bigger - sure if you beat the right guys while you're growing (as Floyd did) then you absolutely should get the credit for it, but getting praises for moving through the divisions just because you're still developing physically makes no sense.
I never understood the obsession with people wanting to see Mayweather fought higher and higher in weight, they claim they don’t rate him but they still want to see him fight out of his natural weight classes. The standard set for him were definitely higher than anyone else
Duran fought Hagler at 32.
Floyd would've fought GGG at 39-40.
Big difference.
I’m not one who ever said Mayweather had to fight Golovkin. All this ducking BS is silly to me.
Fair that Mayweather would have been older. Not sure about 40 but clearly in his late 30’s at best.
Duran may have been 32 but how many pro fights vs. what Floyd did? Also how many more wars? I’d say lots more of both. Also guys didn’t take care of themselves the same way they do nowadays (for the most part).
If Floyd thought he'd beat ggg he should have fought him. You should feel cheated that Floyd thought he could beat ggg but not fight him
This guy is a clown show. I don’t say that because he believes Mayweather could beat Golovkin but because he is a total Golovkin hater. When anything comes out of someone’s mouth is just hater BS they have no credibility.
It was the end of round three of Canelo-Golovkin 2 and he was the only one on this whole site basically announcing how decisive it was already for Canelo. I’d trust Adelaide Byrd to more fairly evaluate anything related to Golovkin than lil’ Robbie.
It would be the same as Leonard fighting Hagler.The top welterweight against the top middleweight.But we know Leonard has more guts than Floyd
I think Floyd is just a tad smaller than SRL. But not smaller than Duran.
If you want to make a comparison I’d say Duran going up against Haglar is more up your alley.
Floyd was a natural 135 pounder, GGG is a natural SMW that fights as a middle weight.
Did we all want Leonard going up in weight to fight Tyson back in the 80's...........smh
I wouldn’t have minded Golovkin vs. Mayweather at 154lbs. That is the only guy I believe Golovkin would have gone down for because of the crazy money and knowing Floyd is not a MW.
That said a bit extreme on the comparison between Leonard and Tyson but yes Floyd is the smaller fighter. That said Golovkin is not a natural SMW, he is a middleweight. You are inflating the variance between the two too much. There is clearly a difference but if isn’t the chasm you are thinking.
Floyd was a natural 135 pounder, GGG is a natural SMW that fights as a middle weight.
Did we all want Leonard going up in weight to fight Tyson back in the 80's...........smh
Duran did against hagler. Do your research and also get up withthe times...nobody cares anymore lol
It would be the same as Leonard fighting Hagler.The top welterweight against the top middleweight.But we know Leonard has more guts than Floyd
Almost the same, as Golovkin was more than willing to meet in the middle and fight Floyd at 154.
Doesn’t he claim he’s TBE ? Duran former Light Weight Champ fought Marvin Haggler who was better than GGG . He also fought and beat Iran Barkley who was much bigger than Duran. So in my eyes he’s not TBE cause Roberto Duran accomplish much greater feats than him