How do you rate Lomachenko’s defense?

I'm laughing my ass off at all the hating imbeciles saying his defense is average, B, etc. For such an offensive minded fighter, his defense is an A+++. His offensive output is similar to Pac, with an opponent connect percentage similar to Floyd. That's all you need to know. In the grand scheme of things, he's a solid A, maybe A-. You can dock him half a grade since he got caught by Linares. Rigo and Ward will be seen as better defenders because that's literally all they do, but IMO Loma is better. If he abandoned his offense and focused solely on defense, he's surpass those 2.

Did you watch that fight live? On Foxtel or at the Greenwood? Was crazy when Rigo quit, I was in disbelief! I actually watched that fight on you-tube a few days later cause I had work that hat to be finished. Yes it was insane. Loma Spence and Bud are probably my three favourite fighters at the moment. Esp. Loma. He aims high and just love the matrix style.

His defence is an A for me. If he can hardly get hit by Rigo he's got good defence. Actually might just re-watch that fight right now. Did you watch that fight live? On Foxtel or at the Greenwood? Was crazy when Rigo quit, I was in disbelief!

Easily elite. Very good when transitioning, has great head movement, has great legs and great body movement. there's a reason a lot of great fighters(not all) have exensive olympic backgrounds. In the amateur level you really learn everything and how ot deal with diffeerent styles, and 400 fights will help with that (Rigondeaux, and Lomachenko included) Adrien Broner has 300+ amateur fights supposedly yet he fights so rudimentary. I honestly think his amateur record is flubbed and would bet 50 that it is made up.

:beerchug: Yes, I was going off memory from a previous thread, then I looked into it and loma's numbers for opponents landed punches per round were actually better than floyd's...but similar. Isn't defence what we're talking about here?

You said they had around the same numbers. Which was factually wrong. You were bag licking Loma trying to make him something he isn't. Their defensive numbers were close....Floyd had better plus minus which is to be expected cuz he's far more economic. Loma is a very good defensive fighter...I'm not trying to make him out to be something other than that.

Lol...you can literally compare anything. There's no incorrect way to compare one thing to another. Their defensive stats were close enough to say they were similar too, so other than taking the time to bag lick mayweather and refuse to have any type of discussion, you didn't add much to the discussion. No he actually can't. He hasn't the mental capacity to do that. Gotta keep it simple for the simple.

You were the one making comparisons which were incorrect. I corrected you. Lol...you can literally compare anything. There's no incorrect way to compare one thing to another. Their defensive stats were close enough to say they were similar too, so other than taking the time to bag lick mayweather and refuse to have any type of discussion, you didn't add much to the discussion.

His defence is an A for me. If he can hardly get hit by Rigo he's got good defence. Actually might just re-watch that fight right now.

At least he hasn't got a loss to a cab driver. You trying to compare Loma to Mayweather is a battle you can't win. Mayweather is the greatest fighter of the last 25 years. Lomahenko simply isn't, give it up. :lol1: you're the one "arguing"...we're talking about how good defensively loma is. when making any comparison with mayweather, the stats that you say are garbage anyway, don't tell the whole story. I highly doubt loma surpasses mayweather, but his career isn't over yet. seems like you've already decided Floyd is the greatest you'll see in your lifetime, regardless of who comes along and what they accomplish.:nonono:

D+ at best. He has no defense. His offense is his defense. I mean we saw what an old, slow, 14 loss fighter did to him. And linares almost knocked him cold the fck out with a fcking jab lmao. Defense? Lmao EE fighters dont have defense. Look at triple Ls face after the canelo fight. He used his face to block power shot after power shot.:rofl: LMAO at this guy. No defense? You clearly are in denial if you really think that. Also, it was a SD loss to a cheat and an idiot ref. And almost KO’d by a jab? Are you honestly this stupid to not even know the difference between a jab and a right hand counter, let alone know what being almost knocked cold looks like when clearly he wasn’t hurt at all? I love how people forget that Loma barely got a scratch when he fought the so called defensive master Rigo. Loma looked like Pernell Whitaker when he reduced the sharpshooter Rigo to just punching air.

His defense is his elite offense.

D+ at best. He has no defense. His offense is his defense. I mean we saw what an old, slow, 14 loss fighter did to him. And linares almost knocked him cold the fck out with a fcking jab lmao. Defense? Lmao EE fighters dont have defense. Look at triple Ls face after the canelo fight. He used his face to block power shot after power shot.:rofl:

It's a 7-8/10. Not bad, but not great.

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/7780088/floyd-mayweather-jr-measures-boxing-greats 2012 - Mayweather had a connect percentage of 46% and opponent connect percentage of 16%. Has he slowed down his stats obviously got worse but still better than Loma's. Lomachenko's opponent connect is now 18.4%, Saunders actually has better at 18.2%. http://beta.compuboxdata.com/plus-minus-list Has Loma steps up in comp his stats will get worse. I remember Golovkin used to be the leader. That changed quickly. Prime Mayweather was a class above Lomachenko. yea, stats will diminish as competition level goes up. but just as important is style. loma is more aggressive and sits in the pocket more...when prime mayweather fought with a more aggressive style, he was lit up by B level demarcus Corley, who is nowhere near his best opposition.

I think his defensive skills that he showed in his fight against Rigo was superb. Barely got touched, especially with a sharp shooter like Rigo and just made him look like a complete novice. I think that was the fight that he got hit the least.

post a link...he only had the cotto fight in 2012. are you saying all compubox tracked fights up until that point? according to this, loma actually has better defense. his stats are dragged down cuz he's busier and less selective. https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-vs-lomachenko-head-head-stat-comparison--115530 If it's a stat that Robbie wants to be true than it's 100% accurate but if he doesn't want to believe it's 100% false and fabricated.

Not even close. In 2012 Mayweather had a plus/minus of +30, Lomachenko is +17.3. Mayweather fought better comp too. Don't insult Mayweather. Compubox is bull**** though. post a link...he only had the cotto fight in 2012. are you saying all compubox tracked fights up until that point? according to this, loma actually has better defense. his stats are dragged down cuz he's busier and less selective. https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-vs-lomachenko-head-head-stat-comparison--115530

Not even close. In 2012 Mayweather had a plus/minus of +30, Lomachenko is +17.3. Mayweather fought better comp too. Don't insult Mayweather. Compubox is bull**** though. agree with compubox being bs...loma probably has better stats.

Very good though he can be hit. The thing is, often when he is hit, it's a mis-hit. He's like one of those successful pitchers who rarely strikes out people, he limits hitters to pop ups and weak ground balls.