Where are the apologies?

As much as I don't like that shill account, he/she/he was right in a sense. PBC/Al Haymon forming/leaving was the start of their demise.

****ing hilarious that we're supposed to believe that 3 **** retentive members got together under one username to teach us the ways of the organizations.

That's a lie. I did work for Showtime, but that was before the PBC era. I have no affiliation with Haymon. And your IQ is 150 and you went to college when you were 10 or 11? :rofl:

He claims to work for Showtime/PBC and to be a Haymon affiliate. That's a lie. I did work for Showtime, but that was before the PBC era. I have no affiliation with Haymon.

your life has got to be something else if you're on a boxing forum cheerleading over the death of HBO and constantly for a promotor who gives you zero money. He claims to work for Showtime/PBC and to be a Haymon affiliate.

your life has got to be something else if you're on a boxing forum cheerleading over the death of HBO and constantly for a promotor who gives you zero money.

Nobody gives a **** about you or your apologies. You're 3 people, you can apologise to each other

How did you manage that with an account that says it was made 1 year ago? :confused: This account is operated by three friends who all ditched their previous accounts to instead post exclusively under a joint account. I used to post as "Original Zero". In January 2016, I posted the following: "Haymon has most of the opponents locked up. He'll keep choking HBO slowly until HBO gives up years down the line." "So the only way to create a $100 million pie like UFC has is to invest the money to prove that boxing can work as a network sport. So far it's pulling in similar numbers to what UFC pulls in. Even if Haymon has to spend $500 million over three years to prove his concept, if he ends up with a $100 million a year TV deal at the end, it was money well spent." "We couldn't disagree more on the role live sports will play in HBO's future. You believe they'll become more important to HBO, I believe they'll be minimized or eliminated by HBO. You raise many great points about the "freshness" of live sports, but that is precisely why they won't fit into HBO's future." "HBO's real fight is going to be with Netflix. Eventually fighting with Al Haymon is going to be a waste of their time. HBO's resources will be better spent elsewhere. "

Did you really make a thread about asking for apologies from internet strangers? Newsflash - nobody gives a flying rats ass about you. Or me. You just come off as a lonely gloating loser. There's more name calling for ya.

I think HBO wanted this all along even before top rank left. I think Nelson wanted this since the Mayweather Pacquiao fight as the network has been making way more money with much less overhead from other broadcasts. I don't think this has much to do with the Haymon fighters nor the top rank fighters leaving, these people left because the network wanted out of boxing long time ago and didn't wanna invest anything in it, HBO could have more money than showtime and ESPN combined and they rhey could've kept everyone at HBO if they wanted to but it just wasn't worth it.

How did you manage that with an account that says it was made 1 year ago? :confused: Good question..... Must've been banned before.... I wonder why? lol

I agree. Which is why I just spent the last three years telling all of you guys that HBO was being bullied out of the sport and would give up. How did you manage that with an account that says it was made 1 year ago? :confused:

Wanting to be recognized for an achievement is not gloating for fùcks sake. He's not gloating. There is no smugness or malignant pleasure going on here. The man was correct and should be recognized for it. Why is that a bad thing?He made a thread to directly ask for apologies. I don't know how else you would define "smugness". The title of this thread pretty much says it all doesn't it?

Everybody said I was crazy for insisting PBC would land a big deal with FOX and kill HBO boxing. Admittedly, I didn't think HBO boxing would die in 2018, figured it might take a year or two longer than that. But nonetheless, when PBC launched, most of you here insisted it would flop and that there was no way it would put HBO boxing out of business. Yet here we are. I was called every name in the book. So surely there are at least a few honorable gentlemen here willing to apologize? Ummm. I didn't criticise you on your comments, and kudos on your prescience... I'm assuming you're the member of the troika with the PBC / Haymon connection, yes? But therein lies the rub - how can you expect people to apologise to you when they never know which member of the troika said what? I mean, you address an apology to an individual don't you - it's kind of a personal thing, right? You can't really apologise to a multi-user account... not, of course, that I imagine you'd be getting any apologies even if it you were the sole user.

Noooooo you fuh-kin' didn't!!1 I wrote the following on boxingscene in January 2016: "Haymon has most of the opponents locked up. He'll keep choking HBO slowly until HBO gives up years down the line." "So the only way to create a $100 million pie like UFC has is to invest the money to prove that boxing can work as a network sport. So far it's pulling in similar numbers to what UFC pulls in. Even if Haymon has to spend $500 million over three years to prove his concept, if he ends up with a $100 million a year TV deal at the end, it was money well spent." "We couldn't disagree more on the role live sports will play in HBO's future. You believe they'll become more important to HBO, I believe they'll be minimized or eliminated by HBO. You raise many great points about the "freshness" of live sports, but that is precisely why they won't fit into HBO's future." "HBO's real fight is going to be with Netflix. Eventually fighting with Al Haymon is going to be a waste of their time. HBO's resources will be better spent elsewhere. "

Everybody said I was crazy for insisting PBC would land a big deal with FOX and kill HBO boxing. Admittedly, I didn't think HBO boxing would die in 2018, figured it might take a year or two longer than that. But nonetheless, when PBC launched, most of you here insisted it would flop and that there was no way it would put HBO boxing out of business. Yet here we are. I was called every name in the book. So surely there are at least a few honorable gentlemen here willing to apologize? Noooooo you fuh-kin' didn't!!1

Competing in the arms race would not have made any financial sense for HBO. I agree. Which is why I just spent the last three years telling all of you guys that HBO was being bullied out of the sport and would give up. But you can't say FOX has nothing to do with it when they're one of the main reasons prices are getting too crazy for HBO to stomach.

I don't think you understand how money works. FOX pouring 60-70 million a year into boxing, SHO pouring 60-70 million a year into boxing, ESPN getting back into boxing, DAZN pouring money into boxing, all drove up the price of talent while driving down the need to subscribe to HBO to see top level boxing. So to say FOX has nothing to do with HBO boxing is to say that what fights cost has nothing to do with HBO's decision. Which is ridiculous because your entire point was that HBO is shifting to more profitable things. Things that are more profitable, in part, because networks like FOX have driven up the costs of being in boxing. HBO didn't want to compete in the arms race, so they quit. When Maurice Hooker vs. Alex Saucedo goes for $1.625 million at purse bid, and HBO can't even afford to pay GGG $1 million, it's time to close up shop. Competing in the arms race would not have made any financial sense for HBO. Boxing will rotate between networks for the rest of it's existence. It's a niche fad type sport, only profitable in waves. I think boxing moving to regular network cable hurt both showtime and HBO. I think it hurt ppv as well

PBC on fox has absolutely nothing to do with HBO boxing. HBO is simply interested in more profitable things I don't think you understand how money works. FOX pouring 60-70 million a year into boxing, SHO pouring 60-70 million a year into boxing, ESPN getting back into boxing, DAZN pouring money into boxing, all drove up the price of talent while driving down the need to subscribe to HBO to see top level boxing. So to say FOX has nothing to do with HBO boxing is to say that what fights cost has nothing to do with HBO's decision. Which is ridiculous because your entire point was that HBO is shifting to more profitable things. Things that are more profitable, in part, because networks like FOX have driven up the costs of being in boxing. HBO didn't want to compete in the arms race, so they quit. When Maurice Hooker vs. Alex Saucedo goes for $1.625 million at purse bid, and HBO can't even afford to pay GGG $1 million, it's time to close up shop.

Everybody said I was crazy for insisting PBC would land a big deal with FOX and kill HBO boxing. Admittedly, I didn't think HBO boxing would die in 2018, figured it might take a year or two longer than that. But nonetheless, when PBC launched, most of you here insisted it would flop and that there was no way it would put HBO boxing out of business. Yet here we are. I was called every name in the book. So surely there are at least a few honorable gentlemen here willing to apologize? PBC on fox has absolutely nothing to do with HBO boxing. HBO is simply interested in more profitable things, **** tv series. Boxing is a racket..