Povetkin older than Ortiz was when Wilder beat him.

Ortiz is 50 You get paid to post pro wilder crap Says it all Wilders resume Ortiz Joshua Klit- wilder ducked Whyte- wilder ducked Povetkin- wilder ducked Parker Takam Breazele

Why did all the UK fans harp on how "old" Ortiz was when Wilder beat him, even though he was younger than the Povetkin facing Joshua? Where were the complaints from the UK fans about Povetkin being old? And with Klitschko being several years older than both of them when he lost to Joshua, why is that win so highly regarded when Klitschko had already been exposed by Fury years earlier? define several years ? Seeing as klitchcko just turned 41 a month before he boxed joshua how do you make that several years. Wilder ducked klitchcko didn't he as what i remember.

How come all the Wilder fans that defended Ortiz's age are calling Povetkin old? LOL hes only a few months older than Ortiz's fake age!!! And we call know Otriz is really way older than 39.

Why did all the UK fans harp on how "old" Ortiz was when Wilder beat him, even though he was younger than the Povetkin facing Joshua? Where were the complaints from the UK fans about Povetkin being old? And with Klitschko being several years older than both of them when he lost to Joshua, why is that win so highly regarded when Klitschko had already been exposed by Fury years earlier? Yea, the double standards here... People make such cheap arguments You guys aren’t aware but Ortiz has been reported on these forums as being upwards of 60 so he has to be 50 at least. I read some people’s comments before so

Touche sir. I'm man enough to concede defeat. This is the point where I admit, I don't really follow the heavyweight division. After you mentioned it, I watched the fury fights, which i didn't before and I have to agree fury looks like trash, even though he handily defeat Pianeta, he didn't have the same snap and quickness he had against klitschko. Wow, wasnt expecting that. Fair play to you!

The best heavyweights in the world are Wilder,Fury and Joshua if you go to any boxing circle and claim Parker, Povetkin and Whyte are the big dogs in the division, excluding wilder and fury, you will be laughed at. Why are you making excuses and white knighting joshua. In this sport, and in any sport, we want to see the best fighting the best. We want to see the best against the best, that's why we're here, not to lick on our favorite athlete's nutsack. Joshua already ducked wilder and ended the negotiations by declining the 50m he asked for and signing to fight povetkin. Why are you supporting his duck? Why don't you want to see the best fight the best? Is it because you're a biased dickrider? That's why we don't respect you. You are wrong. Fury WAS the best fighter in the world when he beat Klit. However what you are conveniently are forgetting is what has happened since. He destroyed his body and looked awful in his comeback fights against absolute bums. Pretty much any decent heavyweight beats him easily at this point, hence why he chose to fight complete cans in his comeback fights. The fact Wilder fans are trying to legitimise this fight as some sort of lineal heavyweight fight and ignoring the circumstances is sickening. Joshua ducked Wilder? By sending a signed contract to team Wilder with the details they had already agreed to and getting no response? Wilder has ducked AJ and Whyte! You know when I was talking about Wilder fans having low IQ and it is a waste of time arguing as fact and reason have no impact on them? Yeah..This.

So basically you're saying can't provide a single example lol. Figures from someone who judges people based on which fighter they're fans of. At least Wilder is proving himself, fighting the best and Joshua is holding his belt hostage claiming he's the best fighting shot second rate fighters and ducking the best. There's no reason to hate wilder, there are a dozen reasons to critcize joshua. Ah yes Wilder proving himself fighting the best. One decent oppenant in 40 fights, an old fat Ortiz on blood pressure pills who he went life and death with. Now he has signed up to fight a guy who has been out the ring for two years after ballooning up in weight and going on a coke binge. AJ holding the belt hostage despite fighting Klit, Parker, Povetkin, Whyte, Brezeale, Takam....he has had just over 20 fights....Wilder double the amount of fights..... Argument over/

What are you smoking? I haven't met a joshua fan yet with a 3 digit I.Q. Show me a single example of an educated AJ fan constructing a valid argument. There would not be any point wasting my time and there are plenty of examples but it just goes straight over your heads. When I picture a Wilder fan I picture someone with the same personality and IQ of Adrian Broner. However obese of course and not an athlete.

This is why you are one of my favorite posters here! Man....good a$$ point! The average IQ of a wilder fan must be the lowest of any sports fan. At least most AJ fans have been educated in England and can construct valid arguments and points.

Ortiz 178 years old doe...

Why did all the UK fans harp on how "old" Ortiz was when Wilder beat him, even though he was younger than the Povetkin facing Joshua? Where were the complaints from the UK fans about Povetkin being old? And with Klitschko being several years older than both of them when he lost to Joshua, why is that win so highly regarded when Klitschko had already been exposed by Fury years earlier? I thought you 3 (lol) were paid to educate people on here? Yet as soon as AJ wins you post an argument belittling his fan base by comparing his opponents age with that of your hero deontays? Everybody on here is aware of povetkin age but nobody is hyping him up anywhere close to level you yank fannies hyped Ortiz. Get run over you ****ing parasite. By the way... You still never replied about how I mugged you off and caught you lying about the length of your original zero account. You're still a twat...and I still wish you were a victim of a fatal car crash. ****

Why did all the UK fans harp on how "old" Ortiz was when Wilder beat him, even though he was younger than the Povetkin facing Joshua? Where were the complaints from the UK fans about Povetkin being old? And with Klitschko being several years older than both of them when he lost to Joshua, why is that win so highly regarded when Klitschko had already been exposed by Fury years earlier? Well for one Ortiz real age is likely significantly higher than his documented age. Secondly the key difference is no AJ fans are claiming Povetkin is this massive bogeyman of the division like Wilder fans are with Ortiz. They are not also demanding Wilder now fight Povetkin like Wilder fans are with Ortiz. Wilder fans even now still claim Ortiz is the clear third best heavyweight in the division even though he has done nothing to justify this. Whyte and Povetkin have both proved more worthy of this ranking. Povetkin is a good solid win against the current third best ranked opponent just like Wilders win over Ortiz was at the time. AJ resume is FAR deeper than Wilders which is only got Ortiz on it who he went life and death with. This is quite astonishing considering the amount of fights of both men and illustrates the sheer amount of bums Wilder has fought.

how does that affect his life? Stuuuuupidest argument ever. The same way his comment affects your life apparently. People come here to talk about boxing, don't bring grade school level arguments into this.

Why do PBC dickriders keep talking about Povetkin failing PED tests, but never say anything about Ortiz being caught cheating twice?

You really failed to understand? His point is that some people will run HARD with a topic, then pretend it doesn't matter when their guy is up to bat. how does that affect his life?

There's no way Ortiz is the age he says he is. I'm pretty sure that his countrymen Yoel Romero said he's 42. However, both Ortiz and Povetkin are solid wins on anyone's résumé. Although I'd rate Povetkin higher, having the better pedigree.

Wow some wilder fanboys don’t even like a good fight when they see one. Sorry thismade Joshua’s resume even stronger.

What's your point? Joshua AND Wilder would both be knocked out by Prime Lewis. Maybe even on the same night. We know none of these guys are ATG status but it's fun and a lot more fun now than 5 years ago. You really failed to understand? His point is that some people will run HARD with a topic, then pretend it doesn't matter when their guy is up to bat.

Why did all the UK fans harp on how "old" Ortiz was when Wilder beat him, even though he was younger than the Povetkin facing Joshua? Where were the complaints from the UK fans about Povetkin being old? And with Klitschko being several years older than both of them when he lost to Joshua, why is that win so highly regarded when Klitschko had already been exposed by Fury years earlier? What's your point? Joshua AND Wilder would both be knocked out by Prime Lewis. Maybe even on the same night. We know none of these guys are ATG status but it's fun and a lot more fun now than 5 years ago.

Yea, the double standards here... People make such cheap arguments