I know technically Fury is the lineal champ, but AJ has been seen as the guy since he beat Wlad, certainly when it comes to negotiations. It seems Wilder-Fury caught Hearn off guard. This will be a mega event, and the winner will probably be seen as top dog. What are your thoughts?
I said the winner can be the A side if they do well in selling this fight. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2018/03/07/deontay-wilder-vs-luis-ortizs-impressive-viewership-numbers-proves-bronze-bomber-is-ready-for-ppv/#365e41ba19ca
When people at forbes say Wilder can sell and being him matched with another huge talker who happens to have a very good acomplishment it's very possible
I'm brazilian born and lived here all my life as well
They might do well for themselves, but it still won't be well enough to be the A side. Neither will make anywhere near to 25 mill the way Joshua does. Not even close.
Wilder can't sell to save his life. He's never sold all his tickets for any fight. So that's a straight up lie.
I'm the jealous one? Haha. Care to tell me what i'm "Jealous" about?
Everyone with a brain has Joshua as the number 1 in the division. Every one with a brain will have him as the number 1 after Fury/Wilder as well. If Fury wins, he takes Wilder's place at number 2. If Wilder wins he stays where he is because he didn't beat the number 1 in Joshua, but a fighter who isn't even in the top 10 at this point.
You also said they would be the A side when they don't come close to selling the tickets and PPV's that Joshua does. Neither Fury or Wilder are PPV fighters. And if they fight on PPV, not many people are going to buy it. So yes, you're a moron.
Were you Brazilian born? Do you live there now? Or were you American born but due to ethnicity you like to consider yourself Brazilian?
I said the winner can be the A side if they do well in selling this fight. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2018/03/07/deontay-wilder-vs-luis-ortizs-impressive-viewership-numbers-proves-bronze-bomber-is-ready-for-ppv/#365e41ba19ca
When people at forbes say Wilder can sell and being him matched with another huge talker who happens to have a very good acomplishment it's very possible
I'm brazilian born and lived here all my life as well
Ok idiot. I was talking about your friends arguing right before my comment. But if you feel jealous, know that you are as disgusting and stupid as them. Feel better now? You can keep fooling yourself saying that money matters more than good fights, or that Wilder is far from PPV. You entitled to your opinion, no matter how stupid it is
P.s.: Just for you to know genius, I'm brazilian
I'm the jealous one? Haha. Care to tell me what i'm "Jealous" about?
Everyone with a brain has Joshua as the number 1 in the division. Every one with a brain will have him as the number 1 after Fury/Wilder as well. If Fury wins, he takes Wilder's place at number 2. If Wilder wins he stays where he is because he didn't beat the number 1 in Joshua, but a fighter who isn't even in the top 10 at this point.
You also said they would be the A side when they don't come close to selling the tickets and PPV's that Joshua does. Neither Fury or Wilder are PPV fighters. And if they fight on PPV, not many people are going to buy it. So yes, you're a moron.
Were you Brazilian born? Do you live there now? Or were you American born but due to ethnicity you like to consider yourself Brazilian?
With the delusional post you made before this one, it's clear who the disgusting one is here.
Neither Fury or Wilder will be close to being worth half the money against Joshua, let alone being the A side. But don't let me stop you from being a delusional idiot. It's how you American morons are. Haha.
Ok idiot. I was talking about your friends arguing right before my comment. But if you feel jealous, know that you are as disgusting and stupid as them. Feel better now? You can keep fooling yourself saying that money matters more than good fights, or that Wilder is far from PPV. You entitled to your opinion, no matter how stupid it is
P.s.: Just for you to know genius, I'm brazilian
Fury is not a good measuring stick for where Wilder is at. Wilder is a better measuring stick for Fury though. At least Wilder has been fighting fairly regularly and hasn't had to lose 150 lbs of fat.
Wait, I just noticed that the most disgusting Hearn fanboys are in bad terms? HAHAHA, this is amusing
With the delusional post you made before this one, it's clear who the disgusting one is here.
Neither Fury or Wilder will be close to being worth half the money against Joshua, let alone being the A side. But don't let me stop you from being a delusional idiot. It's how you American morons are. Haha.
Joshua's best win was over a 40 year old inactive Wlad that Fury already beat. LMAO
Fury beat a much better version of Wlad.
Of course if Wilder beat Fury he would be above Joshua. undefeated active Fury + undefeated Ortiz > 40 yr old semi retired Wlad and Joseph Parker who is Chisora level bum.
Fury is active against complete worthless nobodies. Plus he's really fat with loose skin which shows he was recently obese. Fury looks like **** so a win over him means nothing.
Of course Ortiz was undefeated, his biggest test was against that bum Jennings. Let that sink in yeah. Everybody goes undefeated with that bum resume. And he was old as hell who nearly failed the medical. He had high blood pressure and only had 2 rounds worth of stamina, but he still nearly got Wilder out of there. Haha.
Delusional!!!
If Wilder wins, he will have beaten a Fury who is not a top ten fighter as we speak. Wilder cannot become the number 1 by this means, only someone with an extreme mental illness and a breathtaking bias would think so.
If Fury wins, all he has done is beat the number 2 in the division, so no, he will not be the number 1 in the division because that place is already occupied by Joshua. It's quite simple really. But all of you insecure weirdos are going to claim otherwise. I feel sorry for you.
The A side brings the money so AJ is clearly the A side for the time being. If Wilder beats Fury he gets closer but still will not be the A side. If Fury beats Wilder, I think AJ is still the A side but not by as much. If Fury wins I think he could get a 50-50 split.
The rating is very subjective. I, for example, already see Wilder as #1. About being the A side is more about money generated. If everything goes right, yeah, the winner will turn in the A side
Why would Hearn offer Wilder more now ?
Joshua IS fighting Povetkin and Wilder despite your beliefs will most likely lose to Fury or have a good chance of losing so Hearn changing the ALREADY agreed to 15 Million contract wouldn't make sense until he sees the Fury outcome which could be 2 fights .
Joshua makes 20 Million generated fights ,not having Fury as an opponent means little bc its one less threat to him so he may take a minor hit not fighting either Wilder or Fury but it also increases his chances of remaining champion and continue growing his brand where he makes up the money .
Joshua doesnt need these guys , if you wanted an undisputed champion between the two belt holders it was left on Finkels desk ! so now your saying fury is favourite to beat wilder ? Great I'll hold you to that and quote your choice in November ...I've already said to you wager with me on it and if I am right then yes Hearn will regret it because fury if he really loses badly will take away a huge blockbuster between AJ vs fury in a years time.
Far bigger here than wilder vs fury ..in fact probably 2 million box office and 90k Wembley stadium.
Your right Joshua don't need him but it would have been a huge earner for him.
How much you wanna wager on the wilder vs fury fight ?
Being the A side is all about who is the bigger money draw
This won't change
AJ is the A side until he loses and even then, it would have to be a devastating loss, not a narrow decision
Joshua's best win was over a 40 year old inactive Wlad that Fury already beat. LMAO
Fury beat a much better version of Wlad.
Of course if Wilder beat Fury he would be above Joshua. undefeated active Fury + undefeated Ortiz > 40 yr old semi retired Wlad and Joseph Parker who is Chisora level bum.
would you pay 70 or 80 dollars for it and based on what you have seen from tyson fury so far ? i know my answer
I would myself but I'm a sucker for these things :lol1: