Why did Wilder and team drag their feet when Hearn sent them the contract?

Wilder is an emotional pig-wrestling hillbilly who can't think straight. I can see you fallow Hatman.

Beyontay have mental issues, he talks fight but he does not want to. Beyontay is a compulsive liar. Wilder is an emotional pig-wrestling hillbilly who can't think straight.

It's interesting that even fans didn't care about Hearn having to deal with the deadline imposed by the WBA. Povetkin was waiting as well. It's as if it's just something you ignore, give up the title, then fight for it later. Yeah, they treated AJ's mandatory deadline as just something to sneeze at. Bottom line is Wilder and team screwed up. Finkel himself admitted not acting in a timely manner. The only offer reportedly accepted was that $15 million, although Hearn claims Wilder’s inability to finish the deal in a timely manner prompted the WBA to order Joshua to defend his WBA belt against Povetkin. He accepted. Shelly Finkel, Wilder’s advisor, disputes Hearn’s scenario. He said he would’ve met the deadline had he been given one. https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=788290

When someone avoids a fight they dont approach that fighter How would you know? How would you have any idea how things work? Low ball offers are made all the time to kill fights. You're literally making things up without having any way of knowing if they're true. Sending a low ball offer is the most common way to kill a fight while saving face.

There's no singular agreed upon rules for lineage. To keep it simple is the man who beat the man. Anything about being stripped, drug tests, inactivity, etc... is personal interpretation and just over complicates the process IMO.

Wilder and his team were too arrogant to acknowledge the existence of the mandatory obligation Hearn had to deal with. Arum, Dela Hoya, or any other promoter would have been on the phone every chance they get with Hearn as soon as they received the contract. Not this Finkel character. Don't know if it's arrogance or fear. He seems so terrified of talking to Eddie. It's interesting that even fans didn't care about Hearn having to deal with the deadline imposed by the WBA. Povetkin was waiting as well. It's as if it's just something you ignore, give up the title, then fight for it later.

jack dempsey? is that who you are talking about? you want to equate a drug suspension and a retirement to the most popular athlete int eh world at the time who was so popular he was allowed to go on furlough to avoid fighing somebody who was black You're taking your argument in a hundred different directions because you know none of the things you're talking about affect whether you're lineal champion or not. You can go two or three years between defenses and still be lineal champion. Either you're the man who beat the man or you aren't. don't expect to be taken seriously when you argue that tyson fury is still lineal champion of the world after no fighting antybody in the top 100 since 2015. Doesn't matter if you don't fight anyone in the top 500. Again, you're throwing **** at the wall because you know none of that has anything to do with whether you're lineal or not. If you want to point out the flaws of the lineal championship or argue that it's meaningless, be my guest. I'm not saying you're wrong. But Fury doesn't stop being the man who beat the man just because an opponent isn't in the top 100. And for you to suggest otherwise shows you either don't understand the lineal championship, or you do understand and you're hoping to fool those that don't.

False. That's not how lineage works. There have been heavyweight champions that went three years between defenses of the lineal title. Know your history. Stop making things up. who? louis? robinson? they boxed during a world war! the entire world was at war :rofl:. ali? ali was not even licensed to box during his haitus people considered joe frazier the top HW in the world. but he really wasn't consd9ered the champion until he fought ali. jack dempsey? is that who you are talking about? you want to equate a drug suspension and a retirement to the most popular athlete int eh world at the time who was so popular he was allowed to go on furlough to avoid fighing somebody who was black you opened up a can of worms once you admitted you were a wilder shill, dude :lol1:. that's a tough spot to be in :rofl:. don't expect to be taken seriously when you argue that tyson fury is still lineal champion of the world after no fighting antybody in the top 100 since 2015.

you don'twin the lineage off a guy who didn't fight for two years False. That's not how lineage works. There have been heavyweight champions that went three years between defenses of the lineal title. Know your history. Stop making things up.

who are u to talk about propaganda lmao ur whole shtick here is spouting pro wilder and anti joshua propaganda lmao False. My shtick is to spout the truth. I have nothing against Joshua. I have him ranked #1 at heavyweight. I had him favored to beat Wilder had the fight taken place in the UK this year. Exposing the lies of AJ's promoter doesn't mean I have anything against AJ. I don't even have anything against his promoter. I admire his promoter and the tremendous job he's done. A promoter's job is to lie. When I point out how much Hearn lies, I'm not criticizing him. I'm praising him for a job well done.

I know you're a paid shill who spreads pro Wilder propaganda but who the hell do you think is gonna believe that Wilder accepted a fight for April WITH a rematch clause for him. You're making things up. I am paid to explain how the boxing business works. I am not told to push any agenda beyond the truth. Nobody said Wilder accepted an April fight with a rematch clause for him. You made that up. But also accepted a fight WITHOUT a rematch clause for him if the fight was next. Finkel AND Hearn both say he did. There's no question he accepted the fight without a rematch clause for him as long as the fight was next. What the hell kind of sense does that make. You either want a rematch clause or you don't. You don't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need. What Wilder needed was to fight AJ next and he was willing to take a terrible deal in order to get AJ next. Hearn wasn't willing to do the fight next. So Wilder has moved on with his life. And you should too.

**** sake tired of reading this ****. Joshua is fighting a big challenge in Povetkin and wilder a big challenge in fury let’s concentrate on that shall we. Instead of playing the blame game with no evidence either way only hearsay and nationalism

Why? Probably because it's hard to take seriously an offer from a team that: first wants you to fight one of their stalemates before they sign, then gives you a criminally low ball offer, then names their price for a fight then you ok the price backpeddles all to hell, then sends you an offer with no date There's only one side that's truly trying to deliver this fight to us and it sure as hell isn't team Joshua. But it's easy to take seriously an offer from a team that gives you a 24 hour deadline and doesn't want to attend a already scheduled meeting? You take seriously a team who does things like this? Neither side really wanted the fight, that is the true. All this back and forth on social media and the bs offers made by both teams were just posturing.

Stop falling for Hearn's IFL propaganda. Finkel runs the show in getting the deal negotiated with any non-Haymon fighter. Wilder having a manager, an adviser and a trainer isn't the reason Hearn took so long to get them a date, before finally admitting the date would be almost a year later. Hearn is a huckster. Plain and simple. Of course he's going to have excuses for not fighting Wilder next. But you can't just take those excuses at face value because Hearn lies constantly. who are u to talk about propaganda lmao ur whole shtick here is spouting pro wilder and anti joshua propaganda lmao

They were willing to sign, without a rematch for Wilder is he lost, as long as the fight was next. You tried to argue the opposite. Wilder was willing to concede the point because he wanted to call Hearn's bluff and prove Hearn was never going to do the fight next no matter what. Now that he's proven that, he's focused on becoming lineal champion. AJ can keep the three belts Fury vacated. Wilder was champion before Fury won those belts, let alone before AJ picked them out of the trash. AJ might be a great guy and he's a very talented fighter. I wish him all the success in the world and hope he makes a billion dollars in the UK. But he's not willing to take the risk of finding out who the best in the world is and that's a shame. you don'twin the lineage off a guy who didn't fight for two years and has't fought anybody in the top 100 since 2015. i understand that you probabdly won'd budge on that because you have an agenda, but the entire idea is silly and only makes sense if you REALLY want deontay wilder to be lineal champion at the expense of reality or sport. when wilder and joshya fight they'll establish lineage. they are 1 and 2 at HW. if fury can get in the way of that and beat wilder he will have to beat joshua. nobody of sound mind thinks you keep the lineal title after 2.5 years hiatus, including a suspension. you are placing zero onus on a champion to defend his title. forgetting entirely that fur gained about 100 lbs and was in no position during that time to defend. he literally pulled out of a rematch with klitschko because of his "mental health." teh guy was not lineal champion of thw orld or fit to defend his titles for YEARS. so enough partisan crap, please.

They were willing to sign, without a rematch for Wilder is he lost, as long as the fight was next. You tried to argue the opposite. Wilder was willing to concede the point because he wanted to call Hearn's bluff and prove Hearn was never going to do the fight next no matter what. I know you're a paid shill who spreads pro Wilder propaganda but who the hell do you think is gonna believe that Wilder accepted a fight for April WITH a rematch clause for him. But also accepted a fight WITHOUT a rematch clause for him if the fight was next. What the hell kind of sense does that make. You either want a rematch clause or you don't. This isn't about calling anybody's bluff, unless you are saying Wilder was willing to sacrifice a rematch just to 'stick it's to Hearn which makes no sense.

How does nobody on the Wilder side see the BS here? If Wilder accepted terms with a rematch clause for if he lost, why the hell would he then just forfeit that when the contract comes? It's a chance to win his belt back. It's clear BS. A rematch for Wilder if he lost was never in the offer, but they kicked up a fuss when the contract arrived without it. It was a clear stall tactic and PR move. They were willing to sign, without a rematch for Wilder is he lost, as long as the fight was next. You tried to argue the opposite. Wilder was willing to concede the point because he wanted to call Hearn's bluff and prove Hearn was never going to do the fight next no matter what. Now that he's proven that, he's focused on becoming lineal champion. AJ can keep the three belts Fury vacated. Wilder was champion before Fury won those belts, let alone before AJ picked them out of the trash. AJ might be a great guy and he's a very talented fighter. I wish him all the success in the world and hope he makes a billion dollars in the UK. But he's not willing to take the risk of finding out who the best in the world is and that's a shame.

I'm not even surprised why team Wilder was unable to respond quickly bearing in mind that Finkel had to deal with Wilder's 2 other managers. Stop falling for Hearn's IFL propaganda. Finkel runs the show in getting the deal negotiated with any non-Haymon fighter. Wilder having a manager, an adviser and a trainer isn't the reason Hearn took so long to get them a date, before finally admitting the date would be almost a year later. Hearn is a huckster. Plain and simple. Of course he's going to have excuses for not fighting Wilder next. But you can't just take those excuses at face value because Hearn lies constantly.

Why? Probably because it's hard to take seriously an offer from a team that: first wants you to fight one of their stalemates before they sign, then gives you a criminally low ball offer, then names their price for a fight then you ok the price backpeddles all to hell, then sends you an offer with no date There's only one side that's truly trying to deliver this fight to us and it sure as hell isn't team Joshua. This right here. All the lame attempts to spin it when Hearn and team don’t want the fight.

Why? Probably because it's hard to take seriously an offer from a team that: first wants you to fight one of their stalemates before they sign, then gives you a criminally low ball offer, then names their price for a fight then you ok the price backpeddles all to hell, then sends you an offer with no date There's only one side that's truly trying to deliver this fight to us and it sure as hell isn't team Joshua.