in my opinion, i think there's no way this whole fury situation turns out good for wilder. there's 4 ways it could play out:
1. they postpone or cancel the fight to next year because maybe fury doesn't look as great against pianeta. in this case, the wbc HAS to call the breazeale mandatory because they have said it will be called in december. if they don't then they will lose some credibility. if they do call it, wilder has to fight breazeale, and his team ends up looking like liars.
2. they fight this year, and wilder beats fury. There's just no way they are making more than a joshua fight would make this year. if wilder beats fury, then him and his fanboys will forever have to defend why they fought a guy who had not fought competitively in 3 years, with sever mental health issues, who dropped 130 pounds in a year. it hurts his legacy and his pockets, in my opinion. breazeale is a better fight for him at this point.
3. fury beats wilder whenever they fight. i shouldn't have to state how bad this would be for wilder.
in my opinion, this fight probably won't happen this year. frank warren and finkel will probably try to set it for around april next year to counter joshua's wembley move.
How many tune ups does a man need? I remember a lot of people calling for Thurman, coming off of surgery, to go straight to Spence. So stop whining.
as far as am concern, Fury have not had any time up. That jamboree he did with that duawf is show us his body weight.
Let's see how good he will perform against the italian, then we will know if he is still on 30% or has tilted above 30% ready to engage wilder.
stop acting like this will be great fight if it gets made when we all know fury is about 30% fit.
Wilder will get no glory for this fight. This fight is as good as me challenging wilder.
How many tune ups does a man need? I remember a lot of people calling for Thurman, coming off of surgery, to go straight to Spence. So stop whining.
cause hes never really fancied the job against joshua and whyte. he knows fury is never going to be as vulnerable as he is now.
so he chose the easy target....
It could be a final eliminator to face AJ, 2019.
Well Fury is still better then most believe and you have to look at the ACTUAL Wilder title fights .
Not one fight suggests hes good enough to be a overwhelming favorite , hes not even the favorite now .
The Fury fight coming up will tell us more but overall evidence suggets that Wilders one trick wonder which isthe reliance of finding a right hand and enough of them will be difficult against a guy who he need to K.O and Furys 85 inch reach could easily avoid it .
I cannot guarantee fury avoiding that right hand for 12 rounds but first things first. Let's see what happens after Aug 18.
You guys are all missing the point.
A wilder win over Fury makes him the A side vs AJ.
The tv viewerahip will dictate it.
Fury beats AJ in TV everytime.
Hahahahahaha, another comedian spotted.
If Wilder had put on and lost 130lbs, I'd say he was done. But physical prowess was never Fury's forte - being a 6'9 boxer was - so he is not dead in the water. If Fury loses, he will still fill a stadium fighting AJ.
Joshua is that good so Povetkin is seriously outmatched .
Of course the Wilder vs Fury fight is better at least on paper so this is common sense as its a 50/ 50 fight .
if an unfit fury is matched at 50/50 to wilder, that's shows how terrible wilder is.
It should be a 70/30 match-up.
AJ fanboys acting like some salty *****es.
stop acting like this will be great fight if it gets made when we all know fury is about 30% fit.
Wilder will get no glory for this fight. This fight is as good as me challenging wilder.
wilders career has been filled with misfortunes n hes trying to fight the best available, everyone says all he fights is bums but when he tries to fight the best available hes criticized so at this point its like FK it. we as fans should appreciate it and stop acting like business men. if wilder beats fury it will be a good win. Aj has furys belts which he never lost in the ring. all positives in this situation for wilder IMO
why target an unfit fury when AJ and whyte are available?
in my opinion, i think there's no way this whole fury situation turns out good for wilder. there's 4 ways it could play out:
1. they postpone or cancel the fight to next year because maybe fury doesn't look as great against pianeta. in this case, the wbc HAS to call the breazeale mandatory because they have said it will be called in december. if they don't then they will lose some credibility. if they do call it, wilder has to fight breazeale, and his team ends up looking like liars.
2. they fight this year, and wilder beats fury. There's just no way they are making more than a joshua fight would make this year. if wilder beats fury, then him and his fanboys will forever have to defend why they fought a guy who had not fought competitively in 3 years, with sever mental health issues, who dropped 130 pounds in a year. it hurts his legacy and his pockets, in my opinion. breazeale is a better fight for him at this point.
3. fury beats wilder whenever they fight. i shouldn't have to state how bad this would be for wilder.
in my opinion, this fight probably won't happen this year. frank warren and finkel will probably try to set it for around april next year to counter joshua's wembley move.
i dont know man fury wilder in america is absolutely ppv worthy that fight will get alot bigger then u think. had joshua came to america yes but in the uk no way fury wilder absolutely makes more then a wilder joshua in the uk fight
you are probably right with those numbers. but that doesn't mean wilder makes more than 10 mil. even with tv contracts, wilder has still been making under 3 mil per fight over 40 fights and however many fights as WBC belt holder.
finkel is screwing him over, and that's not going to stop because he's fighting fury.
I’m sure he’s managed his money well and has a good savings built.
The real screw job was the purses paid at Super Fly 2.
The top purse was $200,000.
That’s just criminal
Only way this turns out bad is if Wilder loses.
Yes.
Look at a really great (and far from unlikely) scenario:
Wilder stops Fury with a GIF-city, resounding, smashing KO.
Now Joshua HAS to fight him. And the money is bigger than before.
Remember, Fury is the second biggest fight Wilder could make right now. If he wins in big fashion, the Joshua fight is bigger than ever.
Major upside to the Fury fight.
you are probably right with those numbers. but that doesn't mean wilder makes more than 10 mil. even with tv contracts, wilder has still been making under 3 mil per fight over 40 fights and however many fights as WBC belt holder.
finkel is screwing him over, and that's not going to stop because he's fighting fury.
First you say Fury aint ready so this looks bad, then you say what if Fury wins?
Fury is the Lineal Champion. This is the best heavyweight fight to be made, second only to Joshua.
what's the disconnect in the two statements? they aren't mutually exclusive thoughts.
when fury is truly back in shape, then he really does become possibly the best fight to be made. his boxing skill and pr game is top notch.
The only way this fight ends up bad for Wilder is if he loses, let's be real.
Personally I'd rather see Fury get back to his best before fighting Wilder or Joshua as I think he's a really good addition to the heavyweight scene.
He's a ****ing grown man though, a giant at that, and if he makes the decision to fight Wilder I don't want hear any excuses after that he wasn't ready, well the AJ fanboys will say it, just hope Fury doesn't.
I'm not surprised this fight has apparently been easy to make if I was Wilder I'd snap his hand off, it's a no brainer.
Also will be an interesting and exciting fight to look forward to.