Let's say he renegotiates the contract for much less money with the exact same terms he's offering Deontay Wilder. Do you believe he would offer it to "King Kong" Luis Ortiz?
You haven't heard the news. Just recently the WBO has made Oleksandr Usyk their Super Champion.
Didn't know that... that complicates things.
You see that. It seems that Joshua now needs Wilder a lot more than Wilder needs him, if he wants to keep all his title belts intact because if he doesn't fight Wilder the IBF is going to strip him of their title.
That doesn't sound right? Sure it does sound like another voluntary April next year may not happen, but to keep all his titles all he'll have to do is fight his IBF mandatory then. Doesn't need Wilder at all in that case?
The Takam fight took place October 28, 2017, which means AJ has another IBF mandatory due by October 28, 2018.
The WBA & WBO are next in the rotation, which is why AJ won't be stripped for fighting Povetkin, but by the time April 13, 2019 rolls around, the IBF mandatory will be long overdue. Six months overdue. May be difficult to get anything approved in front of the IBF mandatory other than a unification with Wilder.You see that. It seems that Joshua now needs Wilder a lot more than Wilder needs him, if he wants to keep all his title belts intact because if he doesn't fight Wilder the IBF is going to strip him of their title.
The Takam fight took place October 28, 2017, which means AJ has another IBF mandatory due by October 28, 2018.
The WBA & WBO are next in the rotation, which is why AJ won't be stripped for fighting Povetkin, but by the time April 13, 2019 rolls around, the IBF mandatory will be long overdue. Six months overdue. May be difficult to get anything approved in front of the IBF mandatory other than a unification with Wilder.Thanks for the confirmation; You are spot on!
What on earth are you talking about? Joshua has just faced Takam for his IBF mandatory and Povetkin will be both the WBA and WBO mandatory. He’ll have no issue getting a voluntary fight next whoever it is.
The Takam fight took place October 28, 2017, which means AJ has another IBF mandatory due by October 28, 2018.
The WBA & WBO are next in the rotation, which is why AJ won't be stripped for fighting Povetkin, but by the time April 13, 2019 rolls around, the IBF mandatory will be long overdue. Six months overdue. May be difficult to get anything approved in front of the IBF mandatory other than a unification with Wilder.
What on earth are you talking about? Joshua has just faced Takam for his IBF mandatory and Povetkin will be both the WBA and WBO mandatory. He’ll have no issue getting a voluntary fight next whoever it is.You haven't heard the news. Just recently the WBO has made Oleksandr Usyk their Super Champion.
Which means if he ever decides to move up to the Heavyweight division, he then becomes Anthony Joshua's mandatory challenger immediately. I provided a link for you below.
Then there's the IBF mandatory challenge coming up soon; Which he hasn't defended in almost a year. April would be 18 months since he has defended that title last and there is no way the IBF will let him hold onto it for another 8 months without defending it before April 2019.
They wouldn't allow me to provide the link so is the story.
"The unified cruiserweight champion" can now request to become Joshua's mandatory challenger at any time. Oleksandr Usyk has taken a huge step towards a potential future fight with Anthony Joshua by becoming a WBO 'super champion'.
The Ukrainian unified all four major belts by beating Murat Gassiev on July 21 and is now the undisputed cruiserweight king, talkSPORT wrote. The first title he won was the WBO world championship, which he claimed from Krzysztof Glowacki. Read alsoAnthony Joshua fancies Ukrainian master Oleksandr Usyk in future heavyweight bout – media Usyk has now made his fifth defence of that belt and, as he also unified all the titles, the WBO have declared him a 'super champion'.
This is quite a rare occurrence with the WBO, who are reluctant to complicate their title situation like other governing bodies have been known to do. The WBO only afford 'super champion' status to true kings of their division, in order to grant them special privileges. One of these privileges is the ability to automatically become the mandatory challenger in the weight division above or below, should they choose to move up or down.
Read also Ukrainian boxer Usyk wins Unified Champion of the World title in fight against Russia's Gassiev (Video) As Anthony Joshua is the current WBO heavyweight champion, this means Usyk could now become Joshua's immediate WBO mandatory at any time he chooses and put himself in pole position for that bout. "The votes have already taken place to name Usyk the WBO 'super champion'," a WBO representative exclusively told talkSPORT.
"He will be given a special belt. "Based on the rules of the WBO, his promoter can request to the championship committee to name Usyk the mandatory challenger in the heavyweight division." It is unknown whether Usyk will look to activate this right in the near future, as he is currently eyeing up a potential bout against Tony Bellew. Nevertheless it is understood his long-term goal is to face Joshua, and he now has a straightforward route to get there.
no way they're fighting a lefty with power. joshua's goign to fight guys without a lot of pop. takam, parker, etc. povetkin when he's off tthe drugs was never a big puncher. remember early in his career?
AJ is going to be so tied up with so many mandatory title defenses by April of 2019, that a voluntary defense outside of a Deontay Wilder bout is just isn't possible.
What on earth are you talking about? Joshua has just faced Takam for his IBF mandatory and Povetkin will be both the WBA and WBO mandatory. He’ll have no issue getting a voluntary fight next whoever it is.
"Following the rules for a unified champion you have to go chronologically in terms of when the mandatories are ordered. The IBF mandatory was ordered nearly a year ago and the WBA one was ordered a couple of months ago. We really want to fight Luis Ortiz in February or March and we’ll do a deal to fight him now. "
"I think what they want is they want to fight*Wilder, plus get some step aside from us. So that’s what they’re working on and I don’t see why we should. If the rules are going to be followed, which I think they will be, then I don’t think we need to give him step aside. We’d rather he didn’t fight Wilder and we’d rather he fought Joshua. ""
"We’ll give a fight at the Millennium stadium, he can have a nice warm up and then we’ll do the fight in February or March.”
Eddie Hearn
See you can write fictional stories daily on here but the reality is Hearn offered PUBLICLY Ortiz a guaranteed contract for him to fight Joshua AFTER Pulev but Ortiz CHOSE not too and finagle getting Joshua stripped AND persuing Wilder.
The problem with that was the ACTUAL governing body rules didnt let him do that and told him to sit and wait his turn like a good boy ! lol
Joshua had sighned to fight Klitchko in October 2016 , Hearn did not sign Ortiz untl that November but THEY ditched Ortiz bc Joshua didnt fight Klitchko until April 2017 ,right ? :pat:
P.S what MEN does Hearn have outside of Whyte who is focused on Joshua that he wont let near Ortiz ? The same Whyte who challenged Ortiz back in 2016 when Ortiz was in the U.k fright ? lo
as I stated b4 aj whyte or any of these guys will never fight Ortiz. its funny you like to use these article statements when it suits you but when one is posted that proves hearn is lying you ignore it or make up another argument in favor of them.
No cause Ortiz has no career momentum, isn't a draw and let's face it despite what people might say they will give Joshua zero credit if he beats him, will say he was 'never the same' after wilder beat him , which is what they also use when Crawford's best opponents lose
AJ has already said his career isn't determined by what the people want...so why would he care what "they" say? lol
****ing aj fanboy cheerleaders...gotta love em....so scared of anyone dangerous
great win over Charles martin! also parker! man that parker has so many quality wins!
AJ is going to be so tied up with so many mandatory title defenses by April of 2019, that a voluntary defense outside of a Deontay Wilder bout is just isn't possible.
If Joshua had no better options for more lucrative fights then yes but the reality is Joshua can make more money vs a variety of different opponents.
He could fight Whyte, that fight would be huge right now, maybe only Wilder and Fury would be bigger fights for Joshua.
Even Chisora would be more lucrative, he's riding high off KOing Takam faster than Joshua and he's great at promoting fights so would likely draw in a lot of UK casual fans. Would be a Apollo Creed vs Rocky Balboa underdog type fight but could easily do more than Ortiz.
Fact is Ortiz is a top heavyweight, but he's in the who needs him club. Too much risk for far too little reward. He can't speak English so can't even promote a fight very well because of the language barrier. Any good promoter would weight up the risk vs reward and pick one of the countless other more sensible options. Sucks for Ortiz but it is the way it is, Ortiz like Wilder wasted many years fighting nobodies and is paying the price further down the line for the lack of foresight and ambition.
Only real thing going for Ortiz is the WBC changed their mind as is willing to make Whyte/Ortiz a mandatory shot that takes priority over Breazeale's mandatory. That might convince Hearn Whyte/Ortiz makes sense but then now that Whyte is a proven PPV draw and the far bigger A-side we again have the situation where the risk/reward doesn't make sense.
He cant offer Ortiz a fight bc hes not ranked outside the WBC , how many times has this this been told to you ??:duh::crackheadWhat makes it so? How bout a non-title fight then? So are you saying that champion cannot make a voluntary defense against non ranked sanctioned fighter?
You wilder fans are delusional
Wilder being protected by the ref did nothing for his career
His name grew from ducking Joshua
I'm a Wilder fan. But AJ fighting Ortiz is absolute insanity. I'm amazed he's fighting Povetkin to be quite honest.
As much as I bag on Team Joshua, this Povetkin fight is far more dangerous than it would appear.
So even though they didn't give us the fight we all want to see, at least AJ is fighting a relatively live body. So I'll give him credit for that.
But hey fighting and beating Ortiz means nothing.
LOL. You sure are a re-tard! I meant reward financially you dunce! Why fight Ortiz when you can fight the Parkers of the world for roughly the same money?
Kills me with this Wilderites.
They keep forgetting Deontay is the beggar,
not the other way around.
"I WANT JOSHUA NOW!!!" screamed the emotional hillbilly when he saw AJ beat Klitsch.
Hearn offered him $15 mil, not to mention a shot at 4 belts.
Prior to that he was offered $4 mil for the White fight.
The crying baby said NO to everything Hearn offered.
The beggar suddenly became a chooser.
Never seen anything like it.Let's not forget before we get to the $15mil offer that that same Hillbilly Deontay Wilder did offer Anthony Joshua that $50mil offer he requested just for him to subsequently turn it down.
It’s always been Whyte
No matter how much Hearn grandstands andntalks about Wilder
The plan has always been AJ/Whyte rematch next
F.ucking lame that people on here would support that fight
If the plan was always Whyte v AJ next then why the hell did he put him in a 50/50 with Parker, where most on this forum predicted Parker to win?
Whyte is fighting again in November/December btw.
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