Last night proves Brits own the heavyweight division

Whyte may be real or he may be smoke and mirrors. We won't know till he fights Ortiz or Miller or Wilder. Fury is the lineal but right now he can't beat anyone in the top 10. So no, he isn't top 5 right now, he has a long way to go judging by his last fight. What does beating Miller prove?

I don't give a crap about Wlad, nor am I a fan of his style. Don't see why you brought him up. Vitali was way more fun to watch, if we're on the subject. How does this relate to the fact that british referees are garbage and AJ's stoppages are not deserved? British refs are garbage, and AJs stoppage of Takam was as well. But I wouldn't say most of hes stoppages aren't well deserved. Whyte was nearly dead at the end, we didnt need to see that happen to Wlad.

He lost fair and square because of kabayels movement He lost based on the merit of skill not luck so the point is you have no point He lost because of Kabayels movement and skill and also because of hes lack of output. Hes a temperamental fighter, puts out big efforts sometimes and not others. Trains well sometimes and not others. The commentary teams talk about how he doesn't always "show up" before all hes fights, including this weekends fight. Was that Kabayels fault? Nope. Do you agree with me and others who say the same? Nope, but its still a valid viewpoint.

Brits do own a big part of the heavyweight division, but the division sucks. Low end guys like Mercer and Ruiz would have beaten Chisora and Whyte easily. If these two guys represent owning the heavyweight division, it means that the division is in rough shape. Hell, Mercer knocks out AJ.

Then we have Joyce and Dubois coming through who even now would cause fits for most of the top guys. AJ got a gift ref with Takam and Parker. Broke them up and warned the shít out of them for doing nuffin. The Parker ref would warn Parker for stuff AJ did, what a cùnt!

I don't give a crap about Wlad, nor am I a fan of his style. Don't see why you brought him up. Vitali was way more fun to watch, if we're on the subject. How does this relate to the fact that british referees are garbage and AJ's stoppages are not deserved? Mate, that's a stretch. So Takam, who was faltering could have gone on a bit longer. What stoppages out of Wlad, Molina, Whyte, Martin, Brezeale etc weren't deserved exactly? As for Brit refs, Lewis is the worst, but just remind yourself of Mora (Mares- Agbeko), Reiss (Ward-Kessler), Cole (Abraham-Dirrell) etc.

As a wilder fan You really shouldn’t talk about how boxers perform considering wilder is the biggest protected Haymon bum out there who has More semi pros on his resume than pros lol Tell wilder to stop ducking and start fighting Tell Hearn to stop protecting AJ and send a contract that isn't a joke...and even when Wilder accepted the joke Fast Eddie wormed out of it being next. They don't want Wilder or Ortiz and all yesterday did is prove why they are ducking both men.

Did you switch over in time to catch Shaqiri's goal ? Yeah, that was beautiful. Premier league will be good to watch

Where was the excuse. I said he was out of sorts not that he didnt deserve the loss. He lost fair and square because of kabayels movement He lost based on the merit of skill not luck so the point is you have no point

Lame ass excuses Where was the excuse. I said he was out of sorts not that he didnt deserve the loss.

I'm still pissed that I lost 2 Liverpool goals because of that **** Highlights are good enough for a friendly.

Yeah sure, and your country is not turning into a total cesspool of crime and rape, and your referees are totally fair and unbiased as well! Remind me how many times Wlad got points deducted for clutching and leaning on.

So according to box rec at the moment for main contenders (British). I’ve ignored some others eg gormon, who are no attraction at all 1 - Joshua 4 - Bellew 5 - Tyson fury 8 - Whyte 19 - hughie fury 21 - chisora 52 - Joyce 57 - dubios 163 - Allen You're wrong about Gorman. Not been chin-checked yet, but he's young and has skills.

I'm still pissed that I lost 2 Liverpool goals because of that **** Did you switch over in time to catch Shaqiri's goal ?

Parker's stock took 2 major hits yesterday. Delboy sparks out a guy he went 12 with in 8. Ortiz sparks out a different guy he went 12 with in 2. Good victory for Dillian even with the close shave late. But not as big a win as one might think given the whole picture. As a wilder fan You really shouldn’t talk about how boxers perform considering wilder is the biggest protected Haymon bum out there who has More semi pros on his resume than pros lol Tell wilder to stop ducking and start fighting

So beating Parker means nothing but beating jarrell miller would prove something? Oh that must be because he is American right? Parker's stock took 2 major hits yesterday. Delboy sparks out a guy he went 12 with in 8. Ortiz sparks out a different guy he went 12 with in 2. Good victory for Dillian even with the close shave late. But not as big a win as one might think given the whole picture.

Whyte may be real or he may be smoke and mirrors. We won't know till he fights Ortiz or Miller or Wilder. Fury is the lineal but right now he can't beat anyone in the top 10. So no, he isn't top 5 right now, he has a long way to go judging by his last fight. So beating Parker means nothing but beating jarrell miller would prove something? Oh that must be because he is American right?

Ortiz has done absolutely nothing to be classed as number 3. Whyte and Tyson Fury belong in the top 5. ... Fury is the "lineal" ("Emeritus", at least)... :) ... Ortiz is "elite", but he signed with Haymon and "got a shot" to Wilder... :)

Ortiz has done absolutely nothing to be classed as number 3. Whyte and Tyson Fury belong in the top 5. Whyte may be real or he may be smoke and mirrors. We won't know till he fights Ortiz or Miller or Wilder. Fury is the lineal but right now he can't beat anyone in the top 10. So no, he isn't top 5 right now, he has a long way to go judging by his last fight.

Two of the top 3 (Wilder and Ortiz) are based in the US. Throw in Miller and that's 3 of the top 5 or 6. Throw in Breazeale and Kownacki and that is half the top 10. I think US Heavyweight boxing is fine. Ortiz has done absolutely nothing to be classed as number 3. Whyte and Tyson Fury belong in the top 5.