Usyk wants Bellew, gets him the Joshua fight
Povetkin fights Price on Joshua undercard, gets him Joshua
Parker fights Whyte, wins he'll get the rematch
Miller causes a scene at DAZN presser, will get him Joshua
Wilder "fight Whyte", "no way, you dont tell me what to do", fans rejoice, then complain he doesnt get the fight
Wilder said he would fight Whyte if it meant he would get AJ next. Eddie said "It doesn't work that way" Wilder was going to show up to AJ/Parker to do a face off and promote an upcoming fight. Eddie said he wouldn't be allowed into the ring.
So do you suggest that Wilder start beating up fringe contenders until he becomes IBF mandatory?
--- Well, that'd be better than Deyonce career of journeymen TBA thus far...only in Deyonce world!!!
What boxer who says, "It's not about the money," then rejects $15 million for a shot at four belts?
It's not like it's Hearn who first approached him,
like Eddie did with Klitschko.
Beyonce was the one who begged and begged and kept screaming,
"I WANT JOSHUA!!!!!!"
Kills me.
wilder already went to russia to fight joshuas "credible opponent"...and the guy was so shook of wilder he tried to cheat!
lets face it...AJ's resume is slightly better...not by a heck of alot....the wlad win is overrated by AJ fans and the ortiz win is underrated by the same group...all truth being told those wins are about even...and wilder already tried to fight povetkin didnt think he could win, on his home turf, without extra aid
other than that really AJ's resume is a little better....but lets not act like were talking some huge gap in resumes
AJ beat scrubs for those belts...if wilder had defeated the same guys for all of those belts the UK guys would be trashing him for those wins against stiffs....charles martin? lol....hes stiverne level man...except he was never rated as high as stiverne!
I'm not going to bother with most of this drivel because quite frankly, you talk a load of ****. But to think the Wlad win is the same level as that nobody Ortiz is just preposterous. Nothing you say has any value what so ever, it's just garbage of the highest level. Saying mad **** isn't going to change the outcome in any way, so it's a waste of your time. All you're doing is showing what a clown you really are. It's pathetic.
what boxer said "show me 50 mil and ill sign tomorrow"
was shown 50 mil and then said "it has to be in the UK for the fans"
then turns around and say his career isnt determined by what the fans want and tells the fans to go train to fight the guy that offered him 50 mil?
???? anyone ????
Joshua has always maintained the Wilder fight has to be in the UK. He said it before the 50 mill offer, he's saying it after. Nothing has changed on that front. He never said give him 50 mill and he'd fight in the US. He never once said that.
No one is asking for more than 15 million to fight him. Nor are they asking for half the money, a rematch clause should they lose, and to be the A side if they win the first fight.
None of this has been done in boxing history but Wilder and his delusional fans think it's legit to ask for such ridiculous demands.
Yeah you could argue Ortiz and Vlad are a similar level and around the same age (No one truly knows for Ortiz) altho Vlad has been dominating the division for years so it's a more iconic win.
And yeah I rate Whyte and Parker pretty highly regardless of the outcome of their fight which is the main difference in quality of their two resumes.
Martin no one really knows how good or bad he is, Stiverne was a good win for the belt and the much better of the two.
As for Miller yeah I think he could be a future opponent for Joshua he just needs to keep winning and building that profile. All that mouthing off to Joshua will definately help with that...
yeah wlad is more "iconic"...but when were really breaking down the quality of resumes that doenst mean anything....wlad was coming off a layoff and a loss and retired right after.....i think im being fair calling the ortiz/wlad wins as even....yes from a name standpoint and overall the wlad is more iconic
yeah like i said...parker and whyte are really the only seperation i see in resumes....but imo parker and whyte are B level guys....and if one loses clearly to the other that guy will be seen as lesser and take a bit of a hit....
i said i give AJs resume the nod...but its not by a good margin...not much seperation....but we shall see...hopefully we dont have to wait longer than next year to see AJ/wilder
i think its fair to take into account that wilder was in russia to fight povetkin..and had signed it.....and its expected that wilder will probably fight brezeale next ......we cant hold wilder accountable for povetkins actions
all things considered i think the only thing really seperating the resumes is joe parker and whyte...depends how well you rate them.....either way AJs resume is going to come out a little better after one of them defeats the other
you have to be honest.... stiverne was at least rated....and fairly high even though we know hes fairly weak overall...martin wasnt highly rated at all...only rated cause he had a belt
wlad/ortiz basically cancel each other out
breazeale could be a notch on both guys resumes before they meet
all things considered only real seperation is parker/whyte...and likely one of them will be rendered fairly weak after they meet
Yeah you could argue Ortiz and Vlad are a similar level and around the same age (No one truly knows for Ortiz) altho Vlad has been dominating the division for years so it's a more iconic win.
And yeah I rate Whyte and Parker pretty highly regardless of the outcome of their fight which is the main difference in quality of their two resumes.
Martin no one really knows how good or bad he is, Stiverne was a good win for the belt and the much better of the two.
As for Miller yeah I think he could be a future opponent for Joshua he just needs to keep winning and building that profile. All that mouthing off to Joshua will definately help with that...
Joshua and Hearn wanted to fight Parker so they offered a decent percentage. If the same deal had been offered in the beginning to Wilder I feel confident we'd be seeing the fight in September.
Hearn doesn't want the fight.
Wilder accepted $15m flat. The percentage is irrelevant.
Joshua and Hearn wanted to fight Parker so they offered a decent percentage. If the same deal had been offered in the beginning to Wilder I feel confident we'd be seeing the fight in September.
Hearn doesn't want the fight.
That's not true.
There is pressure from UK fans for Joshua to fight Wilder...that's why Joshua is telling them to go train and fight Wilder themselves. :lol1:
:lol1: What makes this so sad is that it's true
I don't know if the offer on the table by team AJ to Wilder to fight him in England is a fair one or not. That's for Wilder to decide. If he wants the fight bad enough he will sign the contract fair or not. If Wilder sticks by his demands for the AJ fight it won't happen and all of Wilder's name calling and crying won't make it happen.
the way i see big baby miller is that hearn can use him two ways
he can hold him as an ace in the hole for AJ if he wants to put the wilder fight off for another 6 months....he can say "im going to put AJ in the barclays against big baby" on DAZN...and push the wilder fight off again
or he can have something else lined up for AJ and push the wilder fight off again and keep wilder quiet/happy and let him fight miller in barclays....which would seem like the lesser possibility imo but who knows
C'mon let's be objective here:
Anthony Joshua's competition:
Charles Martin
Breazeale
Dillian Whyte
Molina
Klitschko
Joseph Parker
Povetkin signed
Deontay Wilder
Stiverne twice
Ortiz
Johann Duhaupas
Szhpilka
Molina
Litttle bit of a gap in competition there I'd say...
i think its fair to take into account that wilder was in russia to fight povetkin..and had signed it.....and its expected that wilder will probably fight brezeale next ......we cant hold wilder accountable for povetkins actions
all things considered i think the only thing really seperating the resumes is joe parker and whyte...depends how well you rate them.....either way AJs resume is going to come out a little better after one of them defeats the other
you have to be honest.... stiverne was at least rated....and fairly high even though we know hes fairly weak overall...martin wasnt highly rated at all...only rated cause he had a belt
wlad/ortiz basically cancel each other out
breazeale could be a notch on both guys resumes before they meet
all things considered only real seperation is parker/whyte...and likely one of them will be rendered fairly weak after they meet
C'mon let's be objective here:
Anthony Joshua's competition:
Charles Martin
Breazeale
Dillian Whyte
Molina
Klitschko
Joseph Parker
Povetkin signed
Deontay Wilder
Stiverne twice
Ortiz
Johann Duhaupas
Szhpilka
Molina
Litttle bit of a gap in competition there I'd say...
Not really. Klitschko is the only real name on either list and he was
41 at the time, coming off a loss, two years earlier. It wasn't a prime Klit.
Once the Povetkin fight happens, I will acquiesce that Josh has two names on his resume, but it will also have to be acknowledged that Povetkin will be 39, and far out of his prime also.
man put wilder/big baby in the barclays and that place would be electric.......i think wilder eats him rather easily....i think its a fight wilder should look to make...it would boost his position in AJ talks IMO
Wayy better fight and build up than the Breazeale fight at any rate.
wilder already went to russia to fight joshuas "credible opponent"...and the guy was so shook of wilder he tried to cheat!
lets face it...AJ's resume is slightly better...not by a heck of alot....the wlad win is overrated by AJ fans and the ortiz win is underrated by the same group...all truth being told those wins are about even...and wilder already tried to fight povetkin didnt think he could win, on his home turf, without extra aid
other than that really AJ's resume is a little better....but lets not act like were talking some huge gap in resumes
AJ beat scrubs for those belts...if wilder had defeated the same guys for all of those belts the UK guys would be trashing him for those wins against stiffs....charles martin? lol....hes stiverne level man...except he was never rated as high as stiverne!
C'mon let's be objective here:
Anthony Joshua's competition:
Charles Martin
Breazeale
Dillian Whyte
Molina
Klitschko
Joseph Parker
Povetkin signed
Deontay Wilder
Stiverne twice
Ortiz
Johann Duhaupas
Szhpilka
Molina
Litttle bit of a gap in competition there I'd say...
when ortiz says he thinks wilder wins the AJ fans say "of course he says that...he has to..he just lost to wilder...gotta make himself look better"
when parker and parkers trainer say they favor wilder its "oh hes just saying that cause he lost to AJ and hes jealous"
LOLOL....thats how you know what kind of level of delusion you are dealing with when you deal with AJ fans
Wilder vs Miller would be a good shout for his next fight but won't happen. Too much risk, not enough upside for Wilder. Trash talk would be f@ great though
man put wilder/big baby in the barclays and that place would be electric.......i think wilder eats him rather easily....i think its a fight wilder should look to make...it would boost his position in AJ talks IMO