The most overrated boxer on this forum...

You heard it here first almost a year ago. Mikey has no special skills. A average fighter made out to be a star.

If your last sentence doesn't prove you are an ignorant idiot, I don't know what does. As explained to your dumb retarded ass multiple times, GGG is not a Muslim, as he comes from the Christian part of Kazakhstan. You constantly repeating the claim just shows how utterly idiotic you are, and why you should not be taken seriously. Ever. Why even bother responding to that troll, just put him on ignore.

Charlo's and Spence, Charlo's especially.

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You have a better argument that Gennady lost to DJ and Canelo than you do for saying Gennady is ATG MW. He literally never challenged himself...not even against Kell Fucking Brook - when he refused to give up 3 pounds and required Kell climb 13 pounds instead of 10 (to make just a hair more fair...but that's too much) At least Canelo and Danny *try* fighting the best (Lara, Floyd, Quillin, etc.). Gennady fights Vanes (retired JMW coming off a 3-3 stretch, 2 year layoff, fighting on 2 week camp) instead of Sergei Dervenchenko or Demetrius Andrade - who are both MW and both active and both better. Yeah, Canelo beat Gennady. No question about that. You can argue the KD have GGG the win, but Ca$h whooped on the Muslim GGGGG If your last sentence doesn't prove you are an ignorant idiot, I don't know what does. As explained to your dumb retarded ass multiple times, GGG is not a Muslim, as he comes from the Christian part of Kazakhstan. You constantly repeating the claim just shows how utterly idiotic you are, and why you should not be taken seriously. Ever.

https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/62/photos/412000/620x/Dillian-Whyte-boxing-708097.jpg lololololol

Lol @ top 10 contenders. Errol Spence just fought a guy who was a #2 contender, but i don't think anybody here, including myself, who's a Spence fan, would argue ocampo was a great or even good win....except maybe an idiot, like yourself, because ocampo happened to be rated top 10... :lol1: What are all of the top 10 contenders doing today that GGG beat, and what "top 10" fighters have they beaten after golovkin? I wonder what would happen if Spence camped at 147 for the next ten years fighting "top 10 contenders" trying to tie Henry Armstrong's welterweight defense record? I'm sure the completely objective and totally not racially biased Golovtards would LOVE that :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

Lol @ top 10 contenders. Errol Spence just fought a guy who was a #2 contender, but i don't think anybody here, including myself, who's a Spence fan, would argue ocampo was a great or even good win....except maybe an idiot, like yourself, because ocampo happened to be rated top 10... :lol1: What are all of the top 10 contenders doing today that GGG beat, and what "top 10" fighters have they beaten after golovkin? I wonder what would happen if Spence camped at 147 for the next ten years fighting "10 ten contenders" trying to tie Henry Armstrong's welterweight defense record? I'm sure the completely objective and totally not racially biased Golovtards would LOVE that :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

Says the Wilder fan :lol1::lol1: I've also never argued wilder is tops in his weight class all-time. In his defense, as compared to ggg, wilder is keen on fighting the "top" guy in his division, and not dropping belts chasing $$$, while claiming its all about legacy. But what do you expect, that all you so-called fans respect these days. You cheer for your favorite fighter to line his wallet with your pocket change, while avoiding any live threat they can.

Only if a GGG hater and a boxing idiot like you was arguing that GGG lost. He won a ud in Jacob's home state and held Canelo to a draw in Vegas which is really a win. All champions fight weak opposition from time to time. To say GGG built his career beating bums is a stupid lie by a stupid liar. He beat many top ten contenders. Go to boxrec or any other rating place and see how highly his opponents were rated when he fought them if you want to be honest and accurate which clearly you don't. It's so much easier for a hater like you to call them all bums and think nobody will correct you. Lol @ top 10 contenders. Errol Spence just fought a guy who was a #2 contender, but i don't think anybody here, including myself, who's a Spence fan, would argue ocampo was a great or even good win....except maybe an idiot, like yourself, because ocampo happened to be rated top 10... :lol1: What are all of the top 10 contenders doing today that GGG beat, and what "top 10" fighters have they beaten after golovkin? You've literally got to put an APB on any of those dudes to find them right now... I do agree that I thought he clearly beat jacobs, but i thought he lost to canelo, but the fact that many people dispute those results, make them arguable...that's not a term i just made up. Either way, you're clearly a golovkin fanboy, so i won't waste any more time debating this particular subject with you; they can hurt sometime, but facts are facts.

Just left the Ortiz vs Joshua thread with my answer, it's Ortiz. I do not know why he is rated so highly. I think maybe some people are generally in awe of the Cuban boxing program (this probably also explains why Lara is held in such high regard) . Ortiz really is 38, he's not an old man, he is/was good, just never great. Ortiz was never even the best HW fighter on the Cuban team.

He's not overrated he's missing in action. Looks like BJS is going to take him to school this September.

So then why are you even rating him overrated? Because a large volume of people rate him highly, despite not deserving it due to inactivity/lack of desire to fight. Hence, overrated. Make sense? Or should I slow it down?

I think the most overrated boxer on this forum is Lomachenko. The guy has good boxing fundamentals and well above average speed but he's nowhere near the most talented boxer I've ever seen. I've never seen anyone with an 11-1 record get called "the greatest boxer of all time" the way Lomachenko has been called constantly on this forum and other places. The man lost to an old and fat Salido and was dropped by an over the hill Linares while in his prime.

Bad call. The FACT that they don't want to enter the ring with him should tell you something. Who doesn't want to enter the ring with him? Canelo and GGG are fighting each other in the biggest fight in boxing. Jacobs tried to make the fight with Charlo, but when he refused has now made a title fight with Dereveychenko. Charlo is irrelevant, and he's not doing anything to make himself relevant. He should fight someone in the top 10. I guarantee you that he won't, though.

Res ipsa loquitur I knew you couldn't....LOL

Andrade by a country mile. He's not overrated he's missing in action.

Originally Posted by FLY TY Gennady "ggg" Golovkin Built a career beating bums, and arguably lost to the only 2 elite fighters he fought. So explain then. Res ipsa loquitur

Luis Ortiz Then why did Aj avoid him?

Good call. He beats some one legged guy at Middleweight, and now all of a sudden he smokes Jacobs, Dereveychenko, Saunders, Canelo and GGG? Based on what exactly? Who has this guy actually beaten? Bad call. The FACT that they don't want to enter the ring with him should tell you something.