Even the Brits admit Wilder has the most Prestigious belt

No he didn't. He became Stiverne's mandatory challenger when he beat Malik Scott in a title eliminator. Gavern was a stay busy fight. Even worse. Malik Scott is garbage. Wasn't he coming off a KO loss to Chisora when Wilder fought him?

Wilder got a shot at the title based on beating Jason Gavern. No he didn't. He became Stiverne's mandatory challenger when he beat Malik Scott in a title eliminator. Gavern was a stay busy fight.

Wilder got a shot at the title based on beating Jason Gavern. That is hardly prestigious. The IBF title imo is the most prestigious because they actually follow their rules and force their champions to fight mandatories.

Nah. Getting a belt from a mediocre Stiverne doesn't equate prestige. Just shows how low the quality of this belt is.

well, clearly you're new to the sport, since you picked a belt that nobody has tried to win, nobody has tried to defend, and you likely don't know a single HW IBO champ other than AJ. It's a throw in title, it's not a recognized world title. I'm happy you think it's the most prestigious title, but you're wrong. It's not a matter of opinion. Ever heard of Kevin Lerena? No? He's the IBO Crusierweight Champion. Heard of Igor Mikhalkin? I'm sure you have. He just got his ass kicked by Krusher. Surprisingly, the match was only for Kovalevs WBO strap. Kov didn't care about your prestigious IBO belt Tsiko Mulovhedzi is the IBO Welterweight Champion of the world. He's the 55th ranked WW in the world, and has a record of 12-8 See a trend? Sure there are a few "names" who hold the IBO (AJ, GGG, Hurd) but for the most part, it's C level fighters. And the "names" who have won it, just won a vacant throw in belt when they were fighting for a different title (AJ won it when he was competing for the WBA it was a vacant throw in title, GGG won it vacant, Hurd won it while competing for the WBA and IBO) By your logic the WBC Silver belt is higher ranked than the WBC World title because you think Whyte > Wilder. EDIT - Karo Murat is the IBO Light Heavyweight Champion. He won the vacant title a few months ago, and nobody even noticed. You have made some decent points about IBO that tends to push them backward. What will you say about the other 3 belts?

So you are basically saying that kovalev was given everything he wanted, the shot v stevenson, the cash, the whole lot, he didnt accept it to get a better contract with hbo and not only that, he then went on to publicly call him chickerson multiple times when asked about a future clash giving the impression that stevenson was the cause of the failure of the fight. Correct. Jeez, i dont know, it just doesnt sound great to me, stevenson went on to fight bums once a year in canada until his last fight and kovalev is travelling here and there fighting good opponents, its an odd one Showtime pays more than HBO. Stevenson is making more than Kovalev. But Kovalev has the safety of guaranteed dates. Whereas had he fought Stevenson and lost, he risked neither premium network wanting him as a featured fighter anymore.

it would have been a cash out fight where the winner was in the ultimate position and the loser was ****ed. stevenson was willing to take that risk. kovalev wasnt. So you are basically saying that kovalev was given everything he wanted, the shot v stevenson, the cash, the whole lot, he didnt accept it to get a better contract with hbo and not only that, he then went on to publicly call him chickerson multiple times when asked about a future clash giving the impression that stevenson was the cause of the failure of the fight. Jeez, i dont know, it just doesnt sound great to me, stevenson went on to fight bums once a year in canada until his last fight and kovalev is travelling here and there fighting good opponents, its an odd one

So you are saying that kovalev ducked stevenson and got a better tv deal out of doing it? correct. How did the stevenson fight twist hbos arm to give them a better deal? hbo knew haymon would win the purse bid and take the fight to showtime. had kovalev won the fight, he could have gone back to hbo with more leverage than ever and gotten an even better contract. but had kovalev lost the fight, he'd have no leverage with hbo whatsoever and would have ended up with no deal at all, or a greatly reduced deal. the safe decision was to duck the fight and resign with hbo. i would have done the same thing. but when fans want to assign blame for the fight not happening, the bottom line is that stevenson was willing to risk everything and kovalev wasnt. had stevenson lost and kovalev returned to hbo, showtime wouldnt have been interested in stevenson anymore. it would have been a cash out fight where the winner was in the ultimate position and the loser was ****ed. stevenson was willing to take that risk. kovalev wasnt.

Duva used the Stevenson fight as leverage to get HBO to increase their offer for a new TV deal. Then ducked the Stevenson fight to go sign another contract with HBO instead. So you are saying that kovalev ducked stevenson and got a better tv deal out of doing it? How did the stevenson fight twist hbos arm to give them a better deal?

mayweather also said belts are only good for collecting dust, including the wbc i presume HE held the wbc until retirement

"We want to make the fight very much and we'd love to make the fight with them on a 50-50 deal," Duva told ESPN.com. "But Sergey is contractually tied to HBO and we can't go to a purse bid. We can't fight the fight if we lose the bid, so there's no point in going to the bid and putting on charade." About the stevenson fight: That seems to be the explanation of why kovalev pulled out, whats going on here do you know? Duva used the Stevenson fight as leverage to get HBO to increase their offer for a new TV deal. Then ducked the Stevenson fight to go sign another contract with HBO instead.

Mayweather only fought for the wbc. Didn’t even take Shane’s belts when he won. He’s as a “better” boxer as they get. I thought it’s was already widely know the green belt was the most prestigious mayweather also said belts are only good for collecting dust, including the wbc i presume

Wilder has stated that he wants to unify, therefore to him, his WBC belt alone is not enough. He will be challenging for Joshua's 4 belts. He will not be able command a 50-50 split as a challenger who holds 1 belt, despite its "prestige".

for the wbc to be any better u would have to have the "better" boxers targeting it and holding it and not bothering with the other belts, ive never heard someone say well this guy was a double world champ, well actually this guy was a wbc champ, so there!!!! who wins that obvious is it not, or is it p Mayweather only fought for the wbc. Didn’t even take Shane’s belts when he won. He’s as a “better” boxer as they get. I thought it’s was already widely know the green belt was the most prestigious

Wilder beat the #2 fighter in the world for his title. AJ beat the #9 fighter in the world for his title. Wilder's title has the longest lineage. AJ's titles were all vacated by Fury. Thank you for your opinion. Unfortunately, the entire sport revolves around the belts. So they only mean nothing in the sense that life means nothing, but in the sport of boxing, the belts mean everything. You're rewriting history. AJ was handed a belt by fighting a bum. Wilder earned his belt by fighting the #2 guy in the division. AJ's promoter refused to allow Wilder to fight AJ next. That's not Wilder's fault. AJ asked for 50 million and was given 50 million, but still ducked the fight. 50 million would be the highest purse in heavyweight history. You’re full of knowledge that can be backed with facts. Unfortunately that makes you a “fan boy” and an idiot around here. Props for being a fan of the sport. Wish there where more like you

Kovalev requested to fight Jean Pascal for the WBC diamond belt. Kovalev requested to become Stevenson's mandatory if he won the WBC diamond belt. Kovalev requested a 50/50 purse split if he became Stevenson's mandatory. The WBC said yes to all of these requests and Stevenson didn't object to any of these requests. Once Kovalev had the WBC diamond belt and was declared Stevenson's mandatory with a 50/50 purse split, the WBC ordered a purse bid for the fight. At the time, Kovalev's HBO contract had just expired and he was a television free agent. Stevenson agreed to the purse bid, but Kovalev pulled out and vacated his WBC diamond belt, refusing to accept the fight with Stevenson. All of this is easily verifiable publicly available information. Please let me know if any aspect of the above information is something you would like me to supply sources for. Happy to help. "We want to make the fight very much and we'd love to make the fight with them on a 50-50 deal," Duva told ESPN.com. "But Sergey is contractually tied to HBO and we can't go to a purse bid. We can't fight the fight if we lose the bid, so there's no point in going to the bid and putting on charade." About the stevenson fight: That seems to be the explanation of why kovalev pulled out, whats going on here do you know?

Hold on a sec, maybe im behind on this stuff, as far as i remember stevenson moved promoter (correct me if im wrong) simply to avoid kovalev. I really cannot see kovalev avoiding stevenson, everything has been the other way around, kovalev looks the type of guy who will fight anyone, not stevenson. So all this calling out by kovalev has been faked by him for some reason?? Kovalev requested to fight Jean Pascal for the WBC diamond belt. Kovalev requested to become Stevenson's mandatory if he won the WBC diamond belt. Kovalev requested a 50/50 purse split if he became Stevenson's mandatory. The WBC said yes to all of these requests and Stevenson didn't object to any of these requests. Once Kovalev had the WBC diamond belt and was declared Stevenson's mandatory with a 50/50 purse split, the WBC ordered a purse bid for the fight. At the time, Kovalev's HBO contract had just expired and he was a television free agent. Stevenson agreed to the purse bid, but Kovalev pulled out and vacated his WBC diamond belt, refusing to accept the fight with Stevenson. All of this is easily verifiable publicly available information. Please let me know if any aspect of the above information is something you would like me to supply sources for. Happy to help.

Belts and alphabets dont mean squat. Hell, even lineal doesnt mean anything to me. Stevenson is still lineal at LHW (despite what the Ring says), but he isnt top 3 in the division IMO. Look at who each fighter has fought. Wilder didnt have much of a resume until the Ortiz win. AJ is a bit better. But it wont be resolved until they fight one another. So all this comparisons of belts is nonsense.

the brits like the wbc cos they can be fat and not fight and still get in their rankings, like fury at heavyweight at 7 even the wbo dont have him top 15, anyone who has fury top 10 now needs to be disbanded edit, they also have bellew at 5 wow

I'm sorry but I don't care what you care about. Stiverne was #2 in the world according the the world's leading experts. Wilder beat him straight up. If you want to rewrite history, you're only fooling yourself. Wow do you just make up things as you go, what is up with you.