Boxing isn't the biggest sport anymore in the US but Floyd has been at points the biggest or near biggest figure in American sports as well as the richest.
Wilder is also a brash loud-mouth boxer and at a historically more prestigious boxing weight-class, but he's barely in the mainstream american sport discussion.
Floyd was up there with LeBron and Tom Brady, Wilder is maybe there with Sidney Crosby?
floyd was not popular until he fought oscar de la hoya on PPV. that fight crossed over to the casual audience because it was promoted properly.
these things are done with calculation, wilder will become a star overnight, particularly if they can get this fight in the US.
yes, people decide who they want to follow, but really it comes down to a push from CBS and showtime, one of the biggest media companies in the world. stars are not born, they are made!. yes talent, style, charisma, etc is a factor and you need it, but the most important aspect is investment in the promotion. press tours, media appearances, paid spots for casuals to be able to tune in on TV, radio, social media, to have the fight pitched to them. introduce the players, show highlight reels, and make sure they know the date and that it is on PPV.
this fight will be huge. huge. floyd mayweather fought connor freaking mcgregor for 4 million ppvs at 100 a pop! connor had never boxed in his life and he's not a f#cking HW with knockout power like these two!
belioeve me, casual fans won't eventhink these guys are real. the only reason they watched floyd is because they didnt' have two 6.5' 250 lbers with adonis bodies to watch.
Floyd was a half decent speaker when he was younger but as he's gotten older his speech has deteriorated. Wilder is an ok speaker but fumbles his words a lot which hurts his image. He's also awkward as a fighter and person.
Floyd's style was prettier to watch and he fought way better competition than Wilder. His controversial persona out of the ring helped build his infamy which turned into pay per view success.
Floyds a phenomenal fighter , beautiful boxer but he has no charisma and a fake forced persona that is easily seen throughout by real people but unfortunately in this day and time most people are plexiglass and think floyds some real street dude who rose to fame and likes the finer things in life but hes pretty cheesy and is the worst dressed celebrity I’ve ever seen whom by the way has a stylist and only wears italian brands and cant pull it off. Now I’m not saying wilder is dapper dan but he looks comfortable in his outfits and hes not nervous in front of an audience. Floyd is only comfortable when in front of asssslickers not people who ask him questions that are not praising his purchases or his ability
Asides from the level of competition and skill which fmj is wayyyyyyyy above dw.
I think you’re mixing mayweather and wilders personalities up mayweather is not a great speaker or actually savvy at all he can hardly answer a question straight out. Wilder is the greater speaker of the two tbh. Floyd tried that street thug **** but hes not a thug or a street dude. Wilder talks tough because he’s confident speaking that way and hes not out of place fmj is.
In the ring though lol dw is a sloppy octopus with gorilla fists and fmj is an smooth operating assassin.
Floyd was a half decent speaker when he was younger but as he's gotten older his speech has deteriorated. Wilder is an ok speaker but fumbles his words a lot which hurts his image. He's also awkward as a fighter and person.
Floyd's style was prettier to watch and he fought way better competition than Wilder. His controversial persona out of the ring helped build his infamy which turned into pay per view success.
Getting in trouble with the law,throwing money around at titty bars and beating up on your baby mamas will get people's attention for sure.Along with staying unbeaten by avoiding or fighting guys past their primes.
Sounds like manny pacquiao
Wilder is not a tenth as good a fighter and his opposition has been horrible for the most part. Mayweather was a world champion at age 21 and beat champion after champion. Wilder has defeated only one good fighter in his whole career and that is Ortiz. All the others were no better than fair. Mayweather is reasonable well spoken. Wilder talks like an uneducated thug and every other word is a cuss word. Mayweather has class and Wilder has no class unless you think yelling bomb squad is classy. Mayweather is very intelligent. Wilder is a hard punching dummy. I have nothing against Wilder but you asked why he is not a big star like Mayweather so there are a few of my reasons why he isn't.
Asides from the level of competition and skill which fmj is wayyyyyyyy above dw.
I think you’re mixing mayweather and wilders personalities up mayweather is not a great speaker or actually savvy at all he can hardly answer a question straight out. Wilder is the greater speaker of the two tbh. Floyd tried that street thug **** but hes not a thug or a street dude. Wilder talks tough because he’s confident speaking that way and hes not out of place fmj is.
In the ring though lol dw is a sloppy octopus with gorilla fists and fmj is an smooth operating assassin.
Getting in trouble with the law,throwing money around at titty bars and beating up on your baby mamas will get people's attention for sure.Along with staying unbeaten by avoiding or fighting guys past their primes.
That description fits both Floyd and Wilder.
Floyd knew his worth, even when he wasn't the A-side like when he fought De La Hoya.
Also, look at the list of names on Floyd's record after 40 fights and now look at Wilder's lol...
Getting in trouble with the law,throwing money around at titty bars and beating up on your baby mamas will get people's attention for sure.Along with staying unbeaten by avoiding or fighting guys past their primes.
Floyd, pretty boy, promoted by top Rank
superior boxing skills
Fought top Opposition
Became an annoying cvnt when he had to fight Manny
Leshun (lol) Wilder, ugly utter dumb annoying individual
Bouncer boxing skills
Fights Charlie Z and runs from commies like a coyote
Disgusting hype job
Floyd realized he was the B side to De la Hoya and won a razor thin decision, thats when he took over the PPV.
Imagine Wilder being smart, he would have taken the 15M, beat AJ and taken over. But Wilder is not smart.
This dude hit it on the head! This is a fact that flo mos always conveniently forget. Floyd bent over and Oscar stuck it up his azz with no lube! Floyd knew what he had to do he won and took over. Boxers now want the Floyd money without the hard work or the acknowledging the b side . To be the a side you have to have a big fan base and then beat the a side and give into their demands
It took around 8 years and a fight with DLH to make Floyd a star. Wilder's plan on the start of his carrier was to be a journeyman and pay for his daughter surgeries. Only 5 years in they figured out he could be a champion and started working towards it. His promotion has been subpar and the division has a lack of names too
Wilder isnt star material. It takes more than a KO artist to be one.
Wilder is brash but that doesnt mean he has personality. His trash talks come off as a cliche and he is lame.
Wilder can beat Joshua but he still wont become a household name.
Wilder could be a star if he beats Joshua. If he truly had confidence in himself he'd accept his B side status and sign the contract. Just like Floyd did when he signed for De La Hoya. Floyd was smart enough to know that if he won he could earn much more in his next fights. Wilder apparently isn't that smart.
Boxing isn't the biggest sport anymore in the US but Floyd has been at points the biggest or near biggest figure in American sports as well as the richest.
Wilder is also a brash loud-mouth boxer and at a historically more prestigious boxing weight-class, but he's barely in the mainstream american sport discussion.
Floyd was up there with LeBron and Tom Brady, Wilder is maybe there with Sidney Crosby?Wilder is not a tenth as good a fighter and his opposition has been horrible for the most part. Mayweather was a world champion at age 21 and beat champion after champion. Wilder has defeated only one good fighter in his whole career and that is Ortiz. All the others were no better than fair. Mayweather is reasonable well spoken. Wilder talks like an uneducated thug and every other word is a cuss word. Mayweather has class and Wilder has no class unless you think yelling bomb squad is classy. Mayweather is very intelligent. Wilder is a hard punching dummy. I have nothing against Wilder but you asked why he is not a big star like Mayweather so there are a few of my reasons why he isn't.
its the caliber of opponents that made floyd so popular while remaining undefeated.
floyd had zab, corrales, castillo, gatti, cotto, mosley, oscar, pacquiao, hatton, canelo, marquez
joshua and fury are the only possible opponents wilder has that mean something and 1 of them is the biggest pu$$y in boxing. and the other one is shaking off some rust.
Boxing isn't the biggest sport anymore in the US but Floyd has been at points the biggest or near biggest figure in American sports as well as the richest.
Wilder is also a brash loud-mouth boxer and at a historically more prestigious boxing weight-class, but he's barely in the mainstream american sport discussion.
Floyd was up there with LeBron and Tom Brady, Wilder is maybe there with Sidney Crosby?
Floyd was simply a marketing genius. But before he became that he fought the fights he needed to fight. He didn’t started choosing his fights/calling the shots until he became the A side. They grabbed stardom when it was there, he KOed Corrales and fought like he know how. How many fighters do things like that today? Like pac beating MAB — I call it grabbing their destiny.
When Thurman fought Garcia, a star could’ve been born but instead he played it safe and we have to settle for a good decision win. Now how many fights turned up like that?
Point is when the chance to be great passes you, you grab it by the throat and step your game up.
Now B sides play diva as well,
Earn it first.