Exactly, in terms of resume...Keef isnt even a 1% of Pac's resume and Horn's single win over Pac, faded or not, is far superior than Keefthshssh 2 fight career...because let's be honest, all he has is Porter and Garcia.
So going back to what I originally replied to. no he is not the most accomplished welter out there, not by some stretch.
I disagree.
Also, thank you for reminding me to stretch
Nah, Manny is well past prime and while I'm not a big Manny fan ('*******') and I do like Jeff Horn (seems a nice guy) I did think he was very lucky to have the ref and judges he did.
Spence and Crawford definitely pass the eye test, but in terms of resume at 147, Thurman is the guy, though that may very well change if he bumps into Spence / Crawford
Exactly, in terms of resume...Keef isnt even a 1% of Pac's resume and Horn's single win over Pac, faded or not, is far superior than Keefthshssh 2 fight career...because let's be honest, all he has is Porter and Garcia.
So going back to what I originally replied to. no he is not the most accomplished welter out there, not by some stretch.
Yes, I think Horn's victory makes him more accomplished than Keef, lets add in the more accomplished Khan too.
So...
Nah, Manny is well past prime and while I'm not a big Manny fan ('*******') and I do like Jeff Horn (seems a nice guy) I did think he was very lucky to have the ref and judges he did.
Spence and Crawford definitely pass the eye test, but in terms of resume at 147, Thurman is the guy, though that may very well change if he bumps into Spence / Crawford
Yeah, and there's a guy called Jeff Horn
Yes, I think Horn's victory makes him more accomplished than Keef, lets add in the more accomplished Khan too.
So...
Obviously he is now a musical genius and on a much "higher" level than most. That being said he doesn't seem to be in a hurry to fight. Marriage often times reduces the need to compete but it time the urge to beat someone returns after the first year is over.
As to taking on Crawford or Spence they both will need sneakers to try and catch him. He will try to box them but I don't think he can do that successfully for a full 12 rds.
Ray
TC already more proven
Ha!
Crawford hasn't fought anyone on the same level as Porter or Garcia. He's been fighting guys on the Guerrero, Collazo, Chaves level.
It'll be a long while before Crawford steps up.
You guys like to crap on Keith. Funny thing is if the in form Thurman is still out there, i 'll favor him over both Spence and Crawford. Spence might be a tougher fight but I just don't see how Crawford beats Thurman.
And yet he is the most proven WW in the world despite his hiatus
Yup. People giving Crawford and Spence too much credit. Keith has been in the ring with top ranked fighters, can't say the same for Crawford or Spence.