golovkin asks for 50 percent "well golovkin deserves it he has the belts...they mean something"
today they mean nothing
"ggg dont need to fight ward...he has business at 160 its his dream to unify ...who are u to tell a man to not chase his dream"
today they mean nothing
You can always tell a moron when they treat everyone in groups and not individuals. You are doing a good job proving that.
I have never said Golovkin is worthy of 50/50 with Canelo. Canelo is clearly the A side. That said, if Golovkin feels he is worthy of 50/50 so be it. I do not agree and I do not think most do. However he can do better than 30 or 35%, I think that was absolutely reasonable. Of course the moron hater fraction said no. Many of them also said he should accept a flat fee for the first fight. He already has GBP at 40% for the rematch again showing the hater crowd their lack of any wisdom.
I personally do not care about belts. I am not saying they have no value. They definitely help unknown fighters but by in large they aren't that significant in terms of making the real money in boxing.
Funny how you are so caught up with Ward. Get off your damn knees bro it is pathetic. This is now the third or fourth time in a few days you bring him up. Ward is going to put a restraining order on you soon if you keep up the stalking.
lolol...there are like two fighters in all of boxing that i bash...one is golovkin...who has a garbage resume and might have blown any chance at solidifying his career and a ton of money also....and the other is the guy whos manager is obviously the one stalling a HW mega fight the likes of which we havent seen in years
so yeah....i bash two guys...lol.....whatever floats your boat pal....i can discuss anything rationally....in fact its the inability of the fans of these two fighters, to do the same, that leads me to bash them
you guys can keep talking about hopkins...but what you losers fail to realize is that you wanna use hopkins to validate golovkin...if hopkins quit fighting when his MW reign was over he wouldnt be revered and wouldnt be a legend...his resume would be picked apart......what sets hopkins apart and makes him a legend is what he did after MW....yet somehow you still wanna use hopkins name and try to attach it to golovkin
anyways...im done with you...you are a waste of time...out here talking like "holier than thou" like how you are so fair and rational......just floating in the clouds not realizing you are just as big of a POS as anyone...and do the same things you claim to loathe
keep throwing out phrases like "elementary school kid" acting like that makes you superior....lol...plenty of boxers have made golovkin money...youre out here trying to compare an average civilian to golovkin on a boxing board where we discuss and compare boxers.....lol "hes accomplished more than you"....gee? really? no ****?!?!? lol....wow
Who the hell is talking about Hopkins. There is very little talk here about Hopkin's record and that Golovkin might exceed it. Most of the traffic here is generated by OCD posters ragging on.Golovkin.
cause its easier to go up than go down. people are making it sound like it was david v goliath lol. dereveyencko is an absolute nobody and the only reason hes being hyped is because ggg isnt fighting him. believe me, he would be getting absolutely shredded if he was golovkins opponents, his cv would be getting picked apart, all videos would be scoured to see if any of the bums clipped him at any point etc. we all know the drill. vanes would be undefeated if he fought the dog****e that derevenyencko has so far, hes proven absolutely nothing.
the more you keep sh*ttin on Derev the more you keep proving how idiotic it was for lil g to duck him and lose his belt.
Vanes was retired. sitting on his couch eating burgers when lil g dragged him up in weight to massacre him on 2 weeks notice.
you can't bring up nothing Vanes did in amateurs or at 154 because clearly we're discussing two different fighters. Inactivity, losses and rust. that was not the Vanes that Lara and Andrade faced.
he was clearly shot to sht and had no business in that ring but lil g couldn't prepare for Derev who according to you is a bum?
if he's such a nobody and bum why did Loeffler say that fight needed to be built up into a mega event and that lil g needed more money for the risk?
what's the "risk" in facing a bum? clearly Loeffler, Sanchez and Golovkin disagree with you as they think real highly of Derev.
umm Golovkin cares idiot.
that's why he paid almost $20,000 to get an exception to keep it for his garbage Vanes fight. and then tried to file another exception (pay more money) to keep it in September while ignoring his mando for another year.
Loeffler cares also.
his "dream" just went up in flames. Don't try to degrade belts now when belts have defined Golovkin's entire career and value.
I never said he didn't care, I said very few people care. Whether he does or doesn't most people who watch boxing, and more so with the casuals, they don't care.
He has talked about it being a dream, so be it. Never said it wasn't meaningful to him. My stance is and has always been the same, the belts do not mean sht to me. They are corrupt organizations. However, I have no problem with the IBF taking his belt.
Now that you've been properly dealt with, beat it chump.
umm Golovkin cares idiot.
that's why he paid almost $20,000 to get an exception to keep it for his garbage Vanes fight. and then tried to file another exception (pay more money) to keep it in September while ignoring his mando for another year.
Loeffler cares also.
his "dream" just went up in flames. Don't try to degrade belts now when belts have defined Golovkin's entire career and value.
golovkin asks for 50 percent "well golovkin deserves it he has the belts...they mean something"
today they mean nothing
"ggg dont need to fight ward...he has business at 160 its his dream to unify ...who are u to tell a man to not chase his dream"
today they mean nothing
Chickens coming home to roost. LOL! The guy has made millions of dollars. He is recognized as the king of the MW division. You are so far up Ward's ass you aren't even worth a discussion on that point (just like I won't engage the GGG fanboys who are delusion about Ward).
The fact you really believe his career is a punchline now speaks to your delusional hatred of Golovkin. No one who isn't a hater got worked up about the Vanes fight given the situation. Very few people care if he gets a belt dropped. Some of you clowns need to get in the real world.
umm Golovkin cares idiot.
that's why he paid almost $20,000 to get an exception to keep it for his garbage Vanes fight. and then tried to file another exception (pay more money) to keep it in September while ignoring his mando for another year.
Loeffler cares also.
his "dream" just went up in flames. Don't try to degrade belts now when belts have defined Golovkin's entire career and value.
you guys can keep talking about hopkins...but what you losers fail to realize is that you wanna use hopkins to validate golovkin...if hopkins quit fighting when his MW reign was over he wouldnt be revered and wouldnt be a legend...his resume would be picked apart......what sets hopkins apart and makes him a legend is what he did after MW....yet somehow you still wanna use hopkins name and try to attach it to golovkin
anyways...im done with you...you are a waste of time...out here talking like "holier than thou" like how you are so fair and rational......just floating in the clouds not realizing you are just as big of a POS as anyone...and do the same things you claim to loathe
keep throwing out phrases like "elementary school kid" acting like that makes you superior....lol...plenty of boxers have made golovkin money...youre out here trying to compare an average civilian to golovkin on a boxing board where we discuss and compare boxers.....lol "hes accomplished more than you"....gee? really? no ****?!?!? lol....wow
Everything you said about Hopkins I agree with. That is the point moron. Golovkin's career had some similarity pre-Canelo to Hopkins pre-Tito. The fact you lil G boys get your panties in a wad because someone says that is beyond me. I said what Golovkin does going forward from that fight on was critical. Hopkins did become a legend, what will happen to Golovkin. If Golovkin's resume doesn't improve IMO he will not become a legend in my book. Pretty simple stuff. It isn't unusual to compare guys up to a certain point in their respective careers in any sport. It is done all the time, wake the fck up.
Tell me where I'm bashing and hating on any fighter or athlete. Sure there are guys I am not fans of but I do not bash and act like an emotional btch like guys like you.
And yes I'm superior to you. You're an idiot. When I am talking about accomplishments I am not just talking about the ring, I am talking about ANYTHING in life. We both know you fail in that department. But here's something you can accomplish, get off this website for a few minutes and learn what the word "plenty" means. Then maybe you will stop misusing the word.
I said it would be a bad move IMO if he is not willing to accept 40%.
I said I do not think he can command 50%, but I also believe he can do better than 30%. Many of you types of clowns were arguing that he was pricing himself out if he didn't accept a flat fee before the first fight. He did not and he made millions more because of it. Now you clowns say he should accept only 30%, well he already has GBP up to 40% apparently. Maybe he will get that 5% more to bump up to 45%.
When I hear pathetic haters like you constantly attacking athletes I ask who the f is this clown? This clown who is a total nobody in life and acting like he is speaking for anyone but himself. In your fantasyland "lil gs career is a waste and a punchline at age 36". Yeah sure, you walk into just about any boxing gym and said that and they'd know you went full retard. I've seen too many asshats like you. Guys who never accomplished sht in their lives so they are just bitter fcks. No race or ethnic group has a monoploy on those dbags.
There aren't even "plenty" of guys who have made Golovkin type money. There are far fewer who have made Canelo type money. Look up the definition of plenty and learn something. It is a word any elementary school kid would know but you obviously don't. Few boxers in the history of the sport have made Golovkin money and even smaller fraction Canelo money.
I have said Golovkin's resume isn't particularly strong. I said it was much like Hopkins pre-Tito. Of course that set many of the "lil G" morons off. How dare you! Like the keystone cops the lil g boys fell over each other trying to show otherwise but mostly it was just how dare you. I have said that has a lot do with the guys who did avoid him. Some did actually ducked and some had better money options at the time. There were guys he would have had on his resume IMO as wins but he did not get the chance to fight them. That's just how it goes sometimes. The same thing might happen to a guy like Charlo. That's why i say take on as many guys as he can and fight as often.
You're just another pathetic poster on this site who doesn't have the smarts or the maturity to discuss a boxer rationally. With that you are dismissed.
lolol...there are like two fighters in all of boxing that i bash...one is golovkin...who has a garbage resume and might have blown any chance at solidifying his career and a ton of money also....and the other is the guy whos manager is obviously the one stalling a HW mega fight the likes of which we havent seen in years
so yeah....i bash two guys...lol.....whatever floats your boat pal....i can discuss anything rationally....in fact its the inability of the fans of these two fighters, to do the same, that leads me to bash them
you guys can keep talking about hopkins...but what you losers fail to realize is that you wanna use hopkins to validate golovkin...if hopkins quit fighting when his MW reign was over he wouldnt be revered and wouldnt be a legend...his resume would be picked apart......what sets hopkins apart and makes him a legend is what he did after MW....yet somehow you still wanna use hopkins name and try to attach it to golovkin
anyways...im done with you...you are a waste of time...out here talking like "holier than thou" like how you are so fair and rational......just floating in the clouds not realizing you are just as big of a POS as anyone...and do the same things you claim to loathe
keep throwing out phrases like "elementary school kid" acting like that makes you superior....lol...plenty of boxers have made golovkin money...youre out here trying to compare an average civilian to golovkin on a boxing board where we discuss and compare boxers.....lol "hes accomplished more than you"....gee? really? no ****?!?!? lol....wow
at least u know golovkin has screwed up this canelo rematch...hes screwing himself out of millions
anyone who thinks its ok for him to demand 50 percent against canelo is a pure lunatic...its a like him saying "164" to ward...its a fight killer...its making the other side walk...it literally kills the fight instantaneously
again.."some clown like you who hasnt accomplished ****"....well that depends on what you consider accomplishments....but we arent here to compare common folk to these boxers are we? but you seem to want to do that....because you are desperate...thats what desperate people do...this is a boxing forum where we talk about boxers in the world of boxers...not "ggg vs billy the dairy farmer...whos doing better in life"?
and yes...there are plenty of boxers that have made canelo money or will by the time they reach his age....and plenty of frauds have made millions in their day...bernie madoff...milli vanilli...any tv preacher
its funny....i think im calling it like i see it too...funny that perception things...
so you realize that golovkins resume isnt strong but believe its not all his doing eh? well take a look at recent events and now start to wonder...is it maybe partly his doing?
lol...stfu clown....
I said it would be a bad move IMO if he is not willing to accept 40%.
I said I do not think he can command 50%, but I also believe he can do better than 30%. Many of you types of clowns were arguing that he was pricing himself out if he didn't accept a flat fee before the first fight. He did not and he made millions more because of it. Now you clowns say he should accept only 30%, well he already has GBP up to 40% apparently. Maybe he will get that 5% more to bump up to 45%.
When I hear pathetic haters like you constantly attacking athletes I ask who the f is this clown? This clown who is a total nobody in life and acting like he is speaking for anyone but himself. In your fantasyland "lil gs career is a waste and a punchline at age 36". Yeah sure, you walk into just about any boxing gym and said that and they'd know you went full retard. I've seen too many asshats like you. Guys who never accomplished sht in their lives so they are just bitter fcks. No race or ethnic group has a monoploy on those dbags.
There aren't even "plenty" of guys who have made Golovkin type money. There are far fewer who have made Canelo type money. Look up the definition of plenty and learn something. It is a word any elementary school kid would know but you obviously don't. Few boxers in the history of the sport have made Golovkin money and even smaller fraction Canelo money.
I have said Golovkin's resume isn't particularly strong. I said it was much like Hopkins pre-Tito. Of course that set many of the "lil G" morons off. How dare you! Like the keystone cops the lil g boys fell over each other trying to show otherwise but mostly it was just how dare you. I have said that has a lot do with the guys who did avoid him. Some did actually duck and some had better money options at the time. There were guys he would have had on his resume IMO as wins but he did not get the chance to fight them. That's just how it goes sometimes. The same thing might happen to a guy like Charlo. That's why I've said take on as many guys as he can and fight as often as he can.
You're just another pathetic poster on this site who doesn't have the smarts or the maturity to discuss a boxer rationally. With that you are dismissed.
You have a funny way of showing you don't care, getting defensive and trying to swear through the language filter.
You got in an argument and lost. It's okay, it happens. The fact of the matter is that the Ring's PR guy overruled both the ratings panel and editorial board. When faced with the task of enforcing their own rules, the Ring chose to drop the rule altogether and carry on like nothing happened.
Do you think they would have changed the rule if it weren't a Golden Boy fighter? Or Canelo in specific?
If it were a Bob Arum, Floyd Mayweather, Eddie Hearn, Don King, or Al Haymon fighter they would have enforced the rule.
You can't lose an argument based on opinions dummy. Maybe you should think a little before you speak on here. Ring is the only P4P list that matters and nothing you say will change it. Always has been and always will be.
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No, son, that makes your opinion a joke. Since you don't know the difference between an opinion and facts. And I've forgotten more about the sport than you have ever known. So I don't respect you or your opinion and frankly I don't fkn care. See how that's my opinion? It doesn't mean your ugly, fat, **** s@cking wh@re of a b@tch at home has to agree with me. See the difference? Piss off
You have a funny way of showing you don't care, getting defensive and trying to swear through the language filter.
You got in an argument and lost. It's okay, it happens. The fact of the matter is that the Ring's PR guy overruled both the ratings panel and editorial board. When faced with the task of enforcing their own rules, the Ring chose to drop the rule altogether and carry on like nothing happened.
Do you think they would have changed the rule if it weren't a Golden Boy fighter? Or Canelo in specific?
If it were a Bob Arum, Floyd Mayweather, Eddie Hearn, Don King, or Al Haymon fighter they would have enforced the rule.
Fantastic argument there.
Especially when their PR guy can overrule the people who actually know about boxing
https://www.******.com/535463-ring-ratings-update-overdue-announcement-overdue-updates/
Rather than enforce their own rules, a PR guy just decided to change the rules on the spot against the wishes of the rankings panel and editorial board. Just to protect Canelo.
The Ring is a joke. Any attempt to rationalize this behavior makes you a joke as well.
No, son, that makes your opinion a joke. Since you don't know the difference between an opinion and facts. And I've forgotten more about the sport than you have ever known. So I don't respect you or your opinion and frankly I don't fkn care. See how that's my opinion? It doesn't mean your ugly, fat, **** s@cking wh@re of a b@tch at home has to agree with me. See the difference? Piss off
Ring is the only publication that matters and always has been. Bye
Fantastic argument there.
Especially when their PR guy can overrule the people who actually know about boxing
the Ratings Panel, which had voted to hold off on making a decision on Alvarez until the NAC completed its investigation and made an official ruling on April 18, was nearly unanimous in advising the Editorial Board (which includes managing editor Brian Harty, associate editor Tom Gray and Yours Truly) to strip the Mexican star of our 160-pound title and drop him from the rankings. The Editorial Board agreed with the Ratings Panel’s vote.
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THE RING’s policy was challenged by the magazine’s newly appointed publisher, Stefan Friedman...
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I understand and agree with many (but not all) of Friedman’s points, especially No. 6, which I believe to be true, but the fact for the matter is that the Canelo-Golovkin rematch was scheduled to take place in Nevada, and the commission of that state had to follow their rules. That’s all the Editorial Board wanted to do. But we have been overruled.
And if we can’t follow our own rules, we should not have those rules as they currently exist. THE RING’s PED Policy as it has been published in the magazine since 2012 is now defunct. (If another RING-rated fighter or RING champ tests positive in the coming weeks, what can we do? The chances that the fighter will admit to willfully doping are slim and none – and Slim left town, as Don King used to say – but if we drop/strip him, we can’t fault the boxer or his or her representatives for claiming that we are being unfair and biased for Golden Boy-promoted fighters.)
https://www.******.com/535463-ring-ratings-update-overdue-announcement-overdue-updates/
Rather than enforce their own rules, a PR guy just decided to change the rules on the spot against the wishes of the rankings panel and editorial board. Just to protect Canelo.
The Ring is a joke. Any attempt to rationalize this behavior makes you a joke as well.
haters gona hate, meantime golovkin & canelo should look forward to another bumper payday if all goes to plan, ped canelo should have to move on split but being the so called a side he might get away with it, again
thats boxing
yep, but all of a sudden golovkins the bad guy for going after canelo instead of fighting some nobody with no wins :lol1: is that whata cherry pick is these days, fighting a p4p level fighter instead of a guy fresh off beating tureano johnson lol
Correct. Anything to put a negative spin on GGG. Doesn't it make you wonder why a guy like GGG gets all this hate in the first place? What's not to like? The guy is always respectful, tries to fight the best competition and always, always puts on a compelling fight where he tries to do damage. Like I said before, success breeds hate and always will.
The Ring has been a joke since De La Hoya bought it. Part of the old Ring editorial and ranking staff are who founded the TBRB in the first place, specifically because Ring doesn't follow its own rules and split with the lineal title.
According to Ring's own rules which they disregarded when Canelo got busted, any positive PED test should cause any fighter to be stripped of the title and dropped from the rankings.
Even the current Ring editorial and rankings panels voted to strip Canelo, but they were overruled by a PR guy.
So don't try to tell me about the Ring. De La Hoya killed their credibility and now their belt is as worthless as the WBA Regular title.
Ring is the only publication that matters and always has been. Bye
so was wade..... were you all banging the drum for that fight to get made? if golovkin wants to fight canelo instead of some nobody ive got absolultey no problem with it. the ibf belt doesnt mean ****, abel sanchez should throw it in the skip with the other trash
did he say no to wade and bring up a fighter from a lower weight class?
or did the wade fight get made asap when tureano johnson got injured?
stop with the excuses makes you look pathetic
I don't care who the fighter is. If you duck your mandatory, you deserve to be stripped. If GGG does not fight Charlo next, the WBC should take their belt too. Fight or vacate. If you're not willing to do either, you will be left holding onto your balls with 0 belts.
That's about the long and the short of it. The only value or meaning the sanctioning orgs and their trinkets hold IMO is that they require their titlists to fight the guys they say they should once in a while. The circumstances on this occasion were kinda unusual but nonetheless, you fight your mandos or you get stripped.
golovkin must be laughing at his haters on this site (if he can read it that is p). Hes making millions with canelo regardless if its 35 or 40 or 45 split, he knows he has 35 in the bank and is negotiating for more and the idiots here are up in arms
he drops a belt for a payday, wow what the ****, thats normal, a belt is nothing really, hes at the end of his career, cash is king, when u make a big payday u just want another, im sure its very addictive
and this thing about ward all the time wtf, ward is not in his weightclass, ward is the most protected fighter on the planet, he brings nothing to the table cash wise and most likely will just injure u if he starts fouling, headbutting lowblowing or whatever if the fight is not going like he wants, he cant lose in the states, golovkin would have been a total fool to even think of a fight with him
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