Boxing superstar Manny Pacquiao rose to fame plowing through several weight classes with his blazing speed and ferocious power.
The last few years we have seen Manny Pacquiao turn in some lackluster performances along with being brutally KO’d. With tax issues and senator duties it seems as if his mind is not 100% on boxing. Should the great Manny Pacquiao hang the gloves up like TBE and Calzaghe before he hurts his legacy? He currently ranks #4 in BoxRec's ranking of the greatest pound for pound boxers of all time. Which brings me to my next question. Does losses matter to Pacquiao legacy?
There is an old saying in boxing “you’re only great as your last fight”
Discuss and Vote!:boxing:
No..
Manny is a certified ATG
This decade doesn’t even matter, dude was ATG by 2009
Nobody cares about late career losses by joe Louis, Ali, Leonard, Roy, etc.
25 years from now, nobody is gonna give a shyt if old manny lost to jeff horn
Top twenty ATG-status is cemented.
I do have a feeling though, if Jones retired immediately after the Tarver win, he might've stayed in Top ten status instead of slipping to the lower teens..
Boxing superstar Manny Pacquiao rose to fame plowing through several weight classes with his blazing speed and ferocious power.
The last few years we have seen Manny Pacquiao turn in some lackluster performances along with being brutally KO’d. With tax issues and senator duties it seems as if his mind is not 100% on boxing. Should the great Manny Pacquiao hang the gloves up like TBE and Calzaghe before he hurts his legacy? He currently ranks #4 in BoxRec's ranking of the greatest pound for pound boxers of all time. Which brings me to my next question. Does losses matter to Pacquiao legacy?
There is an old saying in boxing “you’re only great as your last fight”
Discuss and Vote!:boxing:
I voted no because he will be remembered for what he did as a whole just like rjj
Great post and thread
I guess some people might think of his status as slipping. For me, and I think a lot of other people, his status as an ATG is based on his peak.
So no, I don't think it hurts his status at all. It sucks watching a fighter on the decline, but it doesn't affect their legacy.
Nah not really. Plenty of great fighters fight well past their prime. When people talk about Pacquiao's career 30 years from now the're not going to care that he lost to Jeff Horn.
Did Roberto Duran or Ray Leonard's ATG status decline because they hung on too long? A boxer whose considered an ATG in his prime doesn't lose that status because his skills declined as he aged.
If he keeps going and keeps losing then yeah, it does kind of hurt it. I get the argument that he is clearly past his prime by years, as were guys like Roy, Evander, Morales, Toney, etc., but when you see great fighters slow, human, and losing its the last thing you see and remember. I think its especially true for freaks of nature like Roy and Manny. They each had runs where they looked unbeatable possibly by any man near their weight in history. Seeing them struggle along as a shell for years makes it much easier to dismiss them as gifted but matched wisely.
your fav boytoy floyd will be gone someday too. great lmao. with that resume? you usually want to leave something lasting that people will look fondly back at with pride not a steaming pile of sh-it. oh well :fu2::fu2::fu2:
What tf are you talking about? Why are you talking about dying? This is a boxing thread WEIRDO!
Huh? Get some help bro
your fav boytoy floyd will be gone someday too. great lmao. with that resume? you usually want to leave something lasting that people will look fondly back at with pride not a steaming pile of sh-it. oh well :fu2::fu2::fu2:
He should retire. He's done enough given enough to the sport and I'd like to see him in good health 30 years from now.
That said, losses won't affect his ATG status. He's lost that aura of being inhuman but what he accomplished stands.
I feel that your legacy is cemented when you’re just past your sell by date, manny is way past that. In my eyes his atg status can only improve at this point in his career, loses are expected at his age and circumstances, but big wins (against top level fighters in their prime, ie. not Matthysse) would reflect very well looking at his career posthumously.
His legacy as a legend of the sport is set.
If he decides to fight too long and lose fight he shouldn't or wouldn't have in his prime then like a lot of greats we will have some bad memories of him as a shell of his former self.
But his legacy is set.
he was never great and this proves it. one day he will even die. how you going to be great when you dead! as supreme commander trump would say "i like people who don't die"
Huh? Get some help bro
I think he should keep fighting. For example Duran, a guy Manny is compared to by some, had a huge win late in his career over Davey Moore that offset the losses.
Maybe if Manny fought a Crawford or Spence and managed to pull out a legit win like Duran did then IMO that would offset any lingering doubt about his status that was lost when he crapped the bed against Floyd and then lost to Horn (i had him beating Horn myself).
This is actually brilliant. I heard he’s targeting Lomachenko. If he were to win that fight it’d shake up the entire ATG scene. I wouldn’t even know where to rank him if he pulled that off. Duran is still highly rated and some even have him as the best ever despite the losses.
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