Artorias punch stat count Lomachenko vs. Linares

Maybe we should be critical of biased videos that try to make their heroes looks better? Or did Pac secretly beat Floyd? I fúcking called it. Ahh you see, that's where you're wrong. He had Pac-man winning against Floyd, and in the GGG-Canelo fight he scored 2 misses as connected, so everything he says is completely null and void.

People who feel PAC secretly beat Floyd are no different than people who secretly feel Canelo beat GGG. I thought Floyd won a clear close fight but make no mistake the fight was almost a none fight with very little action. I personally look for aggression in a fight, if i see a close round between two fighters i'll give it to the aggressor because he is taking the risk and initiating the action. In any case, not everyone sees a fight the same way. Yes, that is fair. I think Floyd won, but it was a close and somewhat competitive 'fight' albeit there was more posturing up than actual fighting it was one of the most lackluster PPV events, considering how many people paid for it it was somewhat daylight robbery. Terrible undercard Terrible mainevent with barely any action

Maybe we should be critical of biased videos that try to make their heroes looks better? Or did Pac secretly beat Floyd? I guess you don't want to debunk him then.

Maybe we should be critical of biased videos that try to make their heroes looks better? Or did Pac secretly beat Floyd? People who feel PAC secretly beat Floyd are no different than people who secretly feel Canelo beat GGG. I thought Floyd won a clear close fight but make no mistake the fight was almost a none fight with very little action. I personally look for aggression in a fight, if i see a close round between two fighters i'll give it to the aggressor because he is taking the risk and initiating the action. In any case, not everyone sees a fight the same way.

Maybe you should create your own video giving us the real punch count, I've done this once, but it was more so for me counting Bernard Hopkins clinching against Calzaghe. Maybe we should be critical of biased videos that try to make their heroes looks better? Or did Pac secretly beat Floyd?

Problem with both compubox and doing a video replay is that you don't get to see all angles of a punch thrown and compubox has the highly inaccurate counting punches as they're thrown in real time. I'm unsure of it all, but I did think Lomachenko was landing a good bit more than Linares I'm not sure If Linares only landed 56 or w/e. neither system is perfect and 56 seemed low to me so i don't know if he saw or counted everything Linares landed. I did feel that Lomachenko did more work and landed more, Linares did a lot of work too but a lot of the punches were on the gloves... which by the way also does damage, so i wouldn't discount them completely. in fact, a good punch on the gloves will do more damage than some of the punches that landed on the face (i.e. some of the jabs that landed on a retreating target)

Artorias is shameful bull**** Maybe you should create your own video giving us the real punch count, I've done this once, but it was more so for me counting Bernard Hopkins clinching against Calzaghe.

Well not sure how the numbers between compubox and Artorias are so different, I know one is live and one is replay but it shouldn't be that far off. I've seen a handful of punches that Artorias didn't count for Linares but not that many to make such a big difference. Compubox Linares 207 punches landed Lomachenko 213 punches landed vs. Artorias Linares 53 Lomachenko 139 Problem with both compubox and doing a video replay is that you don't get to see all angles of a punch thrown and compubox has the highly inaccurate counting punches as they're thrown in real time. I'm unsure of it all, but I did think Lomachenko was landing a good bit more than Linares I'm not sure If Linares only landed 56 or w/e.

Artorias is shameful bull****

He doesn't count gloves punches, which Compubox does. he counts plenty of glove punches. He also counts plenty of "air" punches if you know what i mean :lol1: Just look a his "punch stat" videos for mayweather vs de la hoya, mayweather vs pacquiao or Canelo vs GGG :rofl:

In the first Thompson/Klitschko fight, the punch stats at the time of the knockout clearly favored Thompson but no one I know of had Thompson ahead on the cards. If punch stats meant that much we would not need judges. That said, I thought Linares landed a lot of meaningful punches and that the cards at the time of the stoppage were not crazy at all. I also thought that even though the cards were close, Linares was about spent. Even without that body shot that ended it, Linares' resources were beginning to fail him and Loma was gaining steam.

He doesn't count gloves punches, which Compubox does. ... Compubox count is live and they never change their count after fight -- whatever biased they were in the first place... Artorias is studying the fights in replay and he's editing highlights... (He should also make full time vids, for pundits)... :)

He doesn't count gloves punches, which Compubox does. i see, well in that case that could make a big difference.

He doesn't count gloves punches, which Compubox does.

This guy has the worst punch count videos. It's actually comical :lol1:

I also found him relatively impartial to all fighters. He finds punches for both fighters that look like they scored but actually didn't. He also doesn't count things that land on gloves, which is a big plus for me. A power punch landing on arms can be counted, depending on the power and where it lands. Ahh you see, that's where you're wrong. He had Pac-man winning against Floyd, and in the GGG-Canelo fight he scored 2 misses as connected, so everything he says is completely null and void.

The big thing for me was in this fight is that my eyes didn't see the same thing that compubox saw and I am not sure if it was because I couldn't catch Linares landed punches or because I was biased towards Lomachenko, even so I didn't realize that there was such a big difference in replay review vs. live punch stat count. I know some people will come on here and will probably see one a couple of punches that weren't counted for Linares and dismiss the entire video (they always do because they are too damn lazy to do a full review themselves, as i am) but overall it was a good punch stat count.

I've never done an in-depth comparison between live fight and his replay, because's a significant time investment.. something I don't have. However I remember looking at a few of his videos, and thought they aligned very well with reality. He uses HD video majority of the time, and uses great angles to show what landed and what didn't. I also found him relatively impartial to all fighters. He finds punches for both fighters that look like they scored but actually didn't. He also doesn't count things that land on gloves, which is a big plus for me. A power punch landing on arms can be counted, depending on the power and where it lands.