Question for those thinking Loma doesn't deserve his just due....

Maybe that is because most of the US fighters turn pro at a much younger age and Loma turned pro at 25. If Loma had turned pro at 19 he surely wouldn't be doing this. He'd have a resume like Inoue, if he was smaller, or Floyd.Stop being jealous and get laid or something

Let's move beyond Ward then. What about Mikey? Who was his signature win? /QUOTE] Orlando Salido. Lol... Oh. Ok. You got it.

this comparison with ward is stupid, ward was a protected fighter all his career, all fights home super six, loses first kovalev fight clearly & gets decision, does better in the rematch but very obvious fouls throughout with a very nice house ref and wins the fight while picking up a multimillion dollar check on useless ppv numbers and a gift decision previous fight, bah Let's move beyond Ward then. What about Mikey? Who was his signature win? Who was this "real deal" boxer that was a weightclass above him that people said he had to fight in order to be the real deal?

Yes. The same Orlando Salido who owns a W over Lomachenko. Lol... Yes. The very same Salido who has a win over Loma. No one thought he was great when he fought Mikey. No one thought he was great when he fought Loma.

this comparison with ward is stupid, ward was a protected fighter all his career, all fights home super six, loses first kovalev fight clearly & gets decision, does better in the rematch but very obvious fouls throughout with a very nice house ref and wins the fight while picking up a multimillion dollar check on useless ppv numbers and a gift decision previous fight, bah

These people are Jealous idiots. You win 2 Olympic Gold Medals. Win a World Title in your 2nd pro fight never been done before and win 3 Titles in separate weight classes in 12 fights. Yet 100% of US boxers are fighting bums for their first 25 fights. Makes you wonder why those who hate on him have the lowest IQ's Maybe that is because most of the US fighters turn pro at a much younger age and Loma turned pro at 25. If Loma had turned pro at 19 he surely wouldn't be doing this. He'd have a resume like Inoue, if he was smaller, or Floyd.

These people are Jealous idiots. You win 2 Olympic Gold Medals. Win a World Title in your 2nd pro fight never been done before and win 3 Titles in separate weight classes in 12 fights. Yet 100% of US boxers are fighting bums for their first 25 fights. Makes you wonder why those who hate on him have the lowest IQ's

Everyone already forgot that Mikey was going to lose that fight to Salido because of a broken nose despite the fact he had won the previous rounds. His team cried so hard they had to stop the fight Kinda like they forget that the Salido vs Loma fight ended in a SD with Loma rocking Salido in the 12th while finding his groove in the back 6. Right? But all you stat superheroes think looking at stats means you watched the fight. Kinda like how Floyd pulled out a SD against canelo despite the fact he won 11/12 rounds. No. Canelo MUST have almost ourboxed Floyd because of SD.

If Loma mamages to stop Mikey he is an all time great

not every fighter will be undefeated its life guys

It's usually the Haymon/TMT group who deny Loma, but then praise davis... The rest of us give him his just due. Can't wait for the Mickey fight:boxing: when you say deny loma are they saying hes not good? or is denying loma when they say they think tank or another fighter would beat him? i don't think many are saying loma isn't a good fighter. but its like if anyone mentions a flaw or says they think mikey or tank will beat him then you all call them haters.

is there really anyone not giving him his just due?

Orlando Salido.. Wait. The same Salido that had 10 or 11 losses by the time Mikey fought him? No one considered him great at that time. So basically, Mikey gets a win over Salido who had 10 losses already (though it was stopped early he woulda won anyway, i think he dropped him 4 times) - and they both were featherweights already for years and years. While Loma HAS to face a bigger, undefeated fighter who owned a belt at light welter. I wany the fight. It's very intriguing. It's a huge fight. I just dont see the same consistency. Especially for those claiming Salido was this tough SIGNATURE win for Garcia.

We are all aware that some boxers were asked to jump through loops. Not every boxer though. They all had to beat someone who was already the real deal in order to get their status. If mikey is considered the real deal already, what "real deal" boxer did he have to move up in weight for and beat in order to get that status? And to be honest. I don't think Ward jumped through hoops going to 75. He simply couldnt make 68 anymore. Besides, he was already the real deal. Floyd cemented his "real deal" status a looooong time ago as well. well, you might be sensible....but to a lot of the people around here neither ward nor Floyd did cement their statuses and ward could have made 168...that's why he approached k2 about a fight at 168 ...and weighed in at 171 for the paul smith fight which was a LHW fight which smith was allowed to weigh in at 176 ward was keeping his weight in between classes in case golovkin was willing to fight...ward was willing to make 168 for a big fight even when ward did go up his detractors said he would avoid kovalev or back out of the fight with a made up injury or whatever

people wanting loma to "jump through hoops" is reactionary....for years people wanted Floyd and ward to jump through hoops...and even after ward did and made the boogeyman quit people still had to listen to whining and excuses loma is great no question...but hes going to be a victim, at least on boxing boards, of prior behavior and always asked to do more or take a big risk/challenge people act as if this standard wasn't already applied to great fighters years ago We are all aware that some boxers were asked to jump through loops. Not every boxer though. They all had to beat someone who was already the real deal in order to get their status. If mikey is considered the real deal already, what "real deal" boxer did he have to move up in weight for and beat in order to get that status? And to be honest. I don't think Ward jumped through hoops going to 75. He simply couldnt make 68 anymore. Besides, he was already the real deal. Floyd cemented his "real deal" status a looooong time ago as well.

Orlando Salido.. people forget loma and mikey were almost the same exact age when they fought salido....one of them emerged victorious though...

people have real short memories around here when ward was nearing the first kovalev fight people said "he will back out...he will come up with an injury or find an excuse to duck"....they said he would "be difficult to negotiate with"......"ill believe it when he walks through the ropes"...yet he showed up and duva said it was a pretty easy deal to get done then after the result they said he would find ways out of the rematch...."why isn't it done yet? it should be done already...ward is scared...hes gonna duck...watch him retire" whoooppps....then they cried about a ref and headbutts or whatever else its funny how quickly these people forget their own behavior...but then cry when someone has the gall to say something about loma

coincidentally the only time a supposed great fighter wasn't demanded to jump through hoops recently was golovkin...he constantly had excuses made up for him every time he didn't take a risk or a challenge....when ward came calling the excuses flew and he ended up fighting brook and wade he refused to negotiate on a cw for cotto or canelo...he might have at least had an outside shot of getting canelo earlier if he was open to it not only were very good fighters with good resume always asked to do more...when someone people wanted to be great didn't do more they made excuses for him loma will prob be a victim in this

people wanting loma to "jump through hoops" is reactionary....for years people wanted Floyd and ward to jump through hoops...and even after ward did and made the boogeyman quit people still had to listen to whining and excuses loma is great no question...but hes going to be a victim, at least on boxing boards, of prior behavior and always asked to do more or take a big risk/challenge people act as if this standard wasn't already applied to great fighters years ago agree 1000%

I've been hearing Loma NEEDS to beat Mikey in order to be labeled as the "real deal". Even after he just TKO'd Linares. I'm just wondering who were people claiming that Mikey HAD to fight that gave him his "real deal" status? What fighter was the real deal already, that people said Mikey had to move up in weight for and beat him in order for Mikey to be the man? I say that to say this: people place these hoops for Loma to jump through in order to prove his worthiness, when they don't/didn't apply that same criterion to EVERY other boxer. And for people to call him a god, or better than Ali, or the best ever - is NOT good enough of a reason to apply this benchmark to ONLY Loma. That's simply conjecture. To be clear: I want this fight. I think this is a really good fight. And I don't think Loma nor Mikey are afraid to share the same ring with one another. people wanting loma to "jump through hoops" is reactionary....for years people wanted Floyd and ward to jump through hoops...and even after ward did and made the boogeyman quit people still had to listen to whining and excuses loma is great no question...but hes going to be a victim, at least on boxing boards, of prior behavior and always asked to do more or take a big risk/challenge people act as if this standard wasn't already applied to great fighters years ago