Frank Warren Talking Sense on AJ-Wilder

no we cant throw it out .... Finkels actions are a direct pr stunt through his actions . That doesnt mean its fake it means he knows hearn wont accept such a offer given 24 hrs and no stipulations . Only dummies cant understand this . Don king was asked about the situation the other day and he asked what stipulations come with the 50 million and said dont accept anything that amount without them ....... Remember the stipulations finkel refused to give ? :burnout: If they told king that finkel refused negotiating meetings with hearn that was scheduled he would have had a real chuckle . Hearn needs to agree to the money for finkle to obtain the money , thats why he didnt send any verified paper work . Maybe he doesnt now ? Its impossible to know anything if one promoter is denied terms or a formal contract. I dont know the rest of what you posted ....the quotes say a meeting has to take place if you have a brain . It doesnt matter if the 50 million is confirmed they cant agree to anything over emails . I already told you what the 70% is relient on and thats questions at a meeting .you just dnt want to believe it , and thas this cant be done without one ! A meeting ________jesus christ . O.k im done here bc i know its a waste of time .:yeah: lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo

If you wanna talk seriously without trolling I would say EDDIE wants this fight in UK and EDDIE wants to be the one dictating the rules. Fight won't happen this summer anyway so there is time to discuss for them, both will take a different fight next so no urgency in either camp. Fixed it...

Again reading articles and not knowing whats going on . In no way did he say the deal was 70% done ... How the F could that happen if they dont meet? :poke: He said he gives it a 70% chance of happening IF they can answer some EASY questions when he MEETS them next week . Of course unless Finkle cancels again ?:wank: so looks like we can at least throw the PR stunt, show me the money is there excuse out. WILDER PROOF OF $50,000,000 CONFIRMED BY JOSHUA'S TEAM | ANOTHER EXCUSE FALLS BY THE WAYSIDE http://www.skysports.com/boxing/new....die-hearn-says Wilder's $50million offer, validated by his representative Shelly Finkel, brought the fight "closer", according to Hearn, who was not presented with official paperwork to strike a deal. "I will go back with some very simple questions, which hopefully they can answer, to put us in a position to know whether it is worth talking," Hearn said earlier this week. "We sent them night," Hearn said. "They can't not answer those questions. "I believe they want to make the fight." Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder is "70 per cent" likely to happen after "positive conversations" in the past 24 hours, revealed promoter Eddie Hearn. Negotiations to agree an undisputed world heavyweight title fight between the unbeaten champions ramped up last week when Wilder offered Joshua $50million to fight. Asked how likely the fight was to be agreed, Hearn exclusively told Sky Sports: "70 per cent.

Theres urgency with Joshua bc he wants this fight next and just doesn't have one belt eith an organization letting him do what he wants . Wilders team does not want the fight next . You dont cancel meetings of any kind if you are urgent . If the fight gets made next you know Hearn had to severely compromise whats fair bc greedy Wilder who doesnt think he can win otherwise he wouldn't be neglecting 30 plus Million deals ...... These guys are going to hold out bc Finkle who refused stipulations will leverage for more money Wilders not worth and waste the fans time like he has already . Yeah WBC will let you do whatever you want, mandatory once in 3 years. Joshua might be forced to defend against Povetkin that's why they were urgent to make Wilder fight instead but Deontay didn't want it now. Looks like we gonna do what boxing fans do the best: wait.

If you wanna talk seriously without trolling I would say they want this fight in UK and they want to be the ones dictating the rules. Fight won't happen this summer anyway so there is time to discuss for them, both will take a different fight next so no urgency in either camp. Probably whatever **** Hearn gunna announce next week Joshua's US TV rights is going to be tied to. The $50mil offer was a bluff, they knew they could throw any number out there, but Joshua tied to this incoming deal

They didn't agree. What they did was put up smokescreens to give you guys something to try to argue about....ala where the money was coming from. As of now, all those excuses have been debunked, and they know the money is there and the offer is real. What is there to keep Hearn and AJ from accepting the offer now? If you wanna talk seriously without trolling I would say they want this fight in UK and they want to be the ones dictating the rules. Fight won't happen this summer anyway so there is time to discuss for them, both will take a different fight next so no urgency in either camp.

Its like pulling teeth isnt it ? lol All this back and forth because one unprofessional manager denies meetings bc he deems them UNPRODUCTIVE !:crazy: hearn said the fight is 70% done but you all keep focusing on this meeting lmao wtf

He's not wrong...

I'll train him , im not promoting shyte ! your hooks look terrible but you'll train someone else? pfft :haha:

But they did agree to 50 million offer, that's why they asked for a contract. If they didn't agree they would act like Wilder and hide in Alabama with internet/phone cut off. They didn't agree. What they did was put up smokescreens to give you guys something to try to argue about....ala where the money was coming from. As of now, all those excuses have been debunked, and they know the money is there and the offer is real. What is there to keep Hearn and AJ from accepting the offer now?

First of all, it's a 50 million dollar guarantee, which means it's possible he can earn MORE, he just can't earn less. Second, your making the argument for the fight, without even realizing it. It would indeed take AJ multiple fights to earn what he'd earn in ONE fight with Wilder. As far as Hearn goes, if AJ tells him to make the fight, it gets made, whether Hearn likes it or not. Third, NOBODY has asked anybody to sign off on anything. Team Wilder has asked that they accept the monetary agreement, then discussions can take place regarding the actual details of the contract. You guys can go round and round all you want, and make it seem like there's something nefarious going on, but asking somebody if they agree to monetary compensation that they asked for, seems perfectly reasonable to me, and it seems like everybody else who's not a fan of Eddie Hearn. Notice it's only the Hearn fans who make every dumb excuse they can, as to why AJ should turn down a 50 million dollar guarantee to fight Wilder. But they did agree to 50 million offer, that's why they asked for a contract. If they didn't agree they would act like Wilder and hide in Alabama with internet/phone cut off.

Joshua doesnt handle negotiating does he ?:burnout: Hearn works for Joshua doing exactly what hes doing , ensuring the best legal advice and getting him the best deals which is why ge makes 20 Million a fight . 50 Million isnt some huge life changing amount he can almost make that in TWO fights ,unlike someone else . No sensible promoter is going to agree to anything without stipulations giving to them ,even Don King had to somewhat chuckle at that . Wilder makes more with the 12.5 Hearn offer yet Hearn is doing disservice to HIS fighter , not the guy whos paying his fighter slightly over ONE million a fight ?:burnout: You guys can keep commenting about it but the entire Wilder fanbase seems to be dumb as hell...... :thumbsdow PART 2 Its not Joshuas job to ask for details ,he is the fighter .:duh: He didnt turn down a fifty Million deal bc no deal was actually presented to him bc there was no paper work and when he requested a formal contract was denied one . He didnt accept the PROPOSED offer of saying he would fight Wilder for 50 Million that is not declining a deal . He can still counter the offer which he will . One fighter can generate 20 Million for himself . One fighter can generate 2.1 Million for himself ( if lucky ) Keep stating Hearn does a disservice to his client though , as only a Wilder fan is dumb enough to believe that . A disservice would have actually been to accept the offer without knowing the stipulating details . First of all, it's a 50 million dollar guarantee, which means it's possible he can earn MORE, he just can't earn less. Second, your making the argument for the fight, without even realizing it. It would indeed take AJ multiple fights to earn what he'd earn in ONE fight with Wilder. As far as Hearn goes, if AJ tells him to make the fight, it gets made, whether Hearn likes it or not. Third, NOBODY has asked anybody to sign off on anything. Team Wilder has asked that they accept the monetary agreement, then discussions can take place regarding the actual details of the contract. You guys can go round and round all you want, and make it seem like there's something nefarious going on, but asking somebody if they agree to monetary compensation that they asked for, seems perfectly reasonable to me, and it seems like everybody else who's not a fan of Eddie Hearn. Notice it's only the Hearn fans who make every dumb excuse they can, as to why AJ should turn down a 50 million dollar guarantee to fight Wilder.

Yea like who Internet tough guy ? Larry Hazard hall of famer / boxing commissioner is FRIENDS with Finkel and he even said the deal cannot be made over emails . He even said Wilder shouldve took the 12.5 Million or it was a duck .....lol A MEETING is a MUST on such a deal you simpleton . Its not about money you DUMMY ,its about the details of the deal itself . :dunce: "THINK HEAD " :crackhead It's so F&^%ing obvious too. "Yes we agree to this $50M deal you sent over social media, let's do it!" "Ok, FYI: It's in a town hall in Alabama, Wilder comes to the ring first, then AJ comes in and has to be wearing a wedding dress and wellington boots. The dollars we are talking about are paid over 20 years, and we get all marketing rights to AJ from now till 1 week after the fight...." etc. There are people who watch boxing but have no clue as to the business side. Hearn is a pro, and has been very transparent throughout. I don't think it's a duck on Wilder's part, but they're not exactly pulling up trees to make this happen.

50 Million isnt some huge life changing amount he can almost make that in TWO fights ,unlike someone else . :thumbsdow This is a point which seems to have escaped many posters. It's clearly a lot of money, but just over twice your regular earnings isn't enough for AJ to cancel every commercial contract he's signed or give up all the advantages his exploits have won him. The perfect example is Hearn offering Wilder double his normal purse to fight Dillian Whyte. Wilder didn't even express any interest. Yet some seem to think that for the same amount, relative to his earnings, Joshua should be eager to give over all the decisions to Wilder's team?

Warren is still real sharp. Latest Tyson Fury interview, he was candid and upfront about 'There's no way it's (wilder or joshua) happening before he has 2 or 3 warmup fights' and you could see Tyson's face, he was like oh, that's the direction you're going. Love Fury. I'm not convinced yet though. because why? because warren aint. and that owl knows fury better than I.

This guy would NOT agree to any of this if he had a fighter generating 20 Million a fight bc the 50 Million is then less relevant to give up promotional control with NO details ?????? lol He must really , really dislike Hearn ? :thinking: He wouldn't even be calm and cool about it like Hearn if Finkel denied him a negotiations meeting he planned , his face would be beat red on social media . .:lol1: Joshua didn't ask for any details did he? He said, and I quote, "Let's roll." See where you Hearn fans' arguments go south is when you make it about Hearn, and his promotional control. Hearn works for AJ, as he has stated, and his job is to get AJ paid. Turning down a 50 million dollar offer, regardless of who is in control, does a disservice to the fighter, and that is why I keep saying the fight surely gets made. AJ will gladly take his asswhooping and smile for a minimum purse of 50 million, rather than fight Povetkin for 20, because he doesn't want to hurt Eddie's pride...

" Everything glitters is not gold , what are the STIPULATIONS of the fifty Million " D. King :dunce: Paulie Malinaggi another smart guy said he never heard of such a thing Finkel pulled . What about David Haye whos also a promoter thinking its nonsense not to disclose info ? You dont even know who Hazard was ,you moron bc if you did you would know hes one of the smartest people in boxing. Did Finkel sit back this weekend and discuss the STIPULATIONS with Hearn ? lol No he claimed it would be COUNTER PRODUCTIVE . You retard !:fu2: Paulie never heard of it because he made peanuts his entire life. The kid is worth like 5M at best. PEANUTS. Haye said he should accept the 50M, get owned hoe! http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/23332323/david-haye-expects-anthony-joshua-accept-deontay-wilder-offer Of course I know the name, but it's been a coon's age since I heard his name. Larry Hazzard NEVER put a single solitary deal together, that's a fact. He's also been retired over 10 years and is almost 80 years old. Dude was an AM's fighter that went into reffing and later got on the comission and did a lot of heath related stuff. How the fùck is he even relevant to the conversation? Commissioner of the State Athletic Control Board of New Jersey = deal maker? Define smart? I'll take Frank Warren over Larry fùcking Hazzard. The guy is working in the industry making fights his entire life. Get owned hoe!

I don't know if this has been posted already, but go to 4:52... This guy would NOT agree to any of this if he had a fighter generating 20 Million a fight bc the 50 Million is then less relevant to give up promotional control with NO details ?????? lol He must really , really dislike Hearn ? :thinking: He wouldn't even be calm and cool about it like Hearn if Finkel denied him a negotiations meeting he planned , his face would be beat red on social media . .:lol1: Expecting Frank Warren to be fair and objective about Eddie Hearn is like expecting Dominic Breazeale to be fair and objective about Wilder. And maybe I'm all shook up tonight .. uh hu hu yeah ... but to me, Breazeale looks and talks like a black version of Elvis in this clip.

Yea like who Internet tough guy ? Larry Hazard hall of famer / boxing commissioner is FRIENDS with Finkel and he even said the deal cannot be made over emails . He even said Wilder shouldve took the 12.5 Million or it was a duck .....lol A MEETING is a MUST on such a deal you simpleton . Its not about money you DUMMY ,its about the details of the deal itself . :dunce: "THINK HEAD " :crackhead Internet toughguy, ok dude now you're getting desperate. Nobody is saying the deal is going to happen over an email. When did this development start? Larry Hazzard is a no-name thats not connected to the game anymore and he never made deals. Commission is notoriously CORRUPT. Lets talk about people MAKING deals, Porter, Warren, Garcia, everybody is saying the same thing. But they're all wrong and you come at me with Larry fùcking Hazzard? Finkel wants to meet, but they have to agree to the 50M first. Finkel said accept the 50M and we'll sit down and work the rest out. That's exactly what you want right, for them to sit down and work it out? Finkel said they'll do that. You people are so fùcking retarded. What is your investment here? I don't even like Wilder, I'm just trying to make logical sense.

Most actual fans around the world already know the deal. Problem is insecure British/anti-American fans are generating most of the noise.