https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F02rny4c,%2Fm%2F0h7p34w
For all the idiots who keep talking about selling seats Joshua doesn’t look like he would sell out a 7k arena over here nor does he look ppv worthy cause Uk ppv is baby shat compared to the big boys in the states. Joshua has a country of cucks behind him but ain’t shat in the states wilder is more popular and gets better ratings as well over here. I’m sure if wilder was a English cuck he would get twice the numbers aj gets in the UK.
Ny is playing it cheap unless the king of Brooklyn jarmell charlo is on the card.
We need Vegas full scale to generate the 100 mill
I was meaning a Joshua fight, not specifically Joshua wilder. Yeah if wilder would need to be wembley or vegas really
So Wilder is popular in home Alabama and AJ in Vegas. Anyone can remind me where biggest boxing matches are, Alabama or Vegas? Looks like AK made a fcking idiot of himself again...
it amazes me how wilder fans mention trends and figures yet fail to grasp the easiest ones.
You have on average taken previous fights into consideration around 1 million people watching wilder on showtime non ppv at prime time saturday night.
You have average 400,000 watching AJ live on a saturday afternoon due to time difference. Alot of those fans will be crossover so realistically you have around 1,2 million people watching these two .. thats your core demographic.
Neither have a significant reach in the US market, and neither have sold a dime in PPV in that market, and you expect a conversion rate of over 70% of the viewership.. to pay near 100 dolars to see them fight on PPV?
The crack epidemic in the USA is still on the rise i see.
They cant charge that for a PPV between these two, its unrealistic for returns.. so you charge less for the PPV and need an EVEN HIGHER conversion rate.
Not gonna happen. If this fight is next it doesnt clear 400,000 buys in the US.
Wilder should be more popular. That said I have no doubt a New York fight would sell out as you would get a lot of brits travel across. Would consider it myself depending on timing.
Ny is playing it cheap unless the king of Brooklyn jarmell charlo is on the card.
We need Vegas full scale to generate the 100 mill
Wilder should be more popular. That said I have no doubt a New York fight would sell out as you would get a lot of brits travel across. Would consider it myself depending on timing.
And, Mike Tyson is still more popular than both.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F02rny4c,%2Fm%2F0h7p34w,Mike%20Tyson
That’s a legend let’s see Tyson compete with wilder in 20 years
if that is the case, then the number of people willing to pay to watch his fights on TV in the US should, according to your argument, be higher than any "baby s#it" UK ppv figures, so why wasn't that last fight with Ortiz a ppv? he could be earning much more... would you not question that if you were wilder?
I'm not even talking live gates here, but the people in America simply aren't putting their money where their mouth is for wilder the way the UK is consistently backing Joshua.
Hate on UK all you want but how much have you personally put down to see wilder fight? most UK people in here will have paid towards a ppv for Joshua at some point, others like myself have travelled to see multiple fights live
Yea, I can't imagine AJ being able to hang with Fury, verbally. But, Wilder went tit for tat and it was THE boxing news of the month. I think the whole reason Wilder was banned from entering the ring with AJ after the Parker fight.
For the actual fight when they do... it’s almost a case of who gets hit flush with the first power punch gets KOd
Big whoop....no one cares. True boxing fans know Wilder beats him.
Just giving my opinion on the Thread
Wilder bigger in the States but overall AJs bigger. Wilder has boxing and some casual fans attention Indont think AJ has gone beyond boxing fans in the States
Obviously the people in the UK care about AJ like I said he seems to have crossed over from athlete to mainstream star over there
people are willing to pay to watch him fight and sponsors are willing to pay to hock their goods
He’s a bigger name overall , Wilders bigger in the States but still only known among a niche audience
I always said the fight can go either way
can Wilders superior athleticism beat AJ superior technique. They both have heavy hands although Wilders seem to be other-worldly in that department both have shown heart
But as time goes on I tend to agree with you I think Wilder catches AJ he’s very robotic and doesn’t move his head and Wilder punches can come in at any angle and Knock people the f.uck out
AJ has the talent, but the phrases and statements which Wilder comes out with is gold... still remember his in ring comments to Fury
Yea, I can't imagine AJ being able to hang with Fury, verbally. But, Wilder went tit for tat and it was THE boxing news of the month. I think the whole reason Wilder was banned from entering the ring with AJ after the Parker fight.