http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/23200970/boxing-games-going-anthony-joshua-deontay-wilder-camps-mean-fight-next
its bad when fat dan is out there throwing some shade at you for not wanting the fight
sad days for the UK and joshua
You know you scrapping the bottom of the barrel when you use Fat dan (Who ya all ridicule on here constantly) as the voice of reason. His opinion means jackshit on this side of the atlantic or on the negotiation table. Anyone comparing Mayweather/Pac flat fees offer to AJ/Wilder flat fee offer has zero brains in busines sense. Pac brings like 10 times what Wilder brings or would bring as of now. Maybe in 2 years times Wilder would bring more but as of now he doesn't. Arguing for him to get more than what he is worth is you people encouraging him to duck Joshua.
Golovkin was offered a flat fee for a fight a year down the line.
AJ is offering to fight wilder immediately.
What's happened to the counter offer that Shirley Winkle was supposed to be sending to Hearn?
I almost wish I kept track of all the morons saying ggg should take the flat fee...just so I'd know who the hypocrites are.
They should just offer wilder 30% take it or leave it...
But you were ok with Oscar's flat fee "offer" to GGG...
No, you clearly don't recall me saying GG should tell Oscar to go fuk himself.
Of course he was .. he's a biased kunt.
Read the above and get educated. Your stupidity seems to be self imposed though as I've shown you facts from articles before and recall you sticking your head in the sand.
Hearn well delay this fight as long as AJ keeps bringing in 80 to 90 k fans in stadiums . Fighting Wilder will make them more money but comes with huge risk . I'm sure they in no rush cause they are making a killing fighting less dangerous fighters with huge upside .. I can see fury getting AJ before DW within 2 years so get use to it .
golovkin was alot closer to wilder than he was to pac or canelo or anyone of that sort
so he didnt take the flat fee either
Exact thing morons said about ggg Canelo. .
Golovkin was offered a flat fee for a fight a year down the line.
AJ is offering to fight wilder immediately.
What's happened to the counter offer that Shirley Winkle was supposed to be sending to Hearn?
Not a fan of the fat one, but he makes some good points;
"...to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.
A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million."
But you were ok with Oscar's flat fee "offer" to GGG...
You can dispute their points and point out the common sense business applications of why the flat offer is not reasonable, and they always go back to this moronic, "it's more than he ever made."
They are all either truly stupid, or they're just acting that way because they don't have the integrity to admit this fighter they like is avoiding Deontay Wilder.
I'll be damned if my appreciation for a fighter ever goes to the extent of me acting the fool for them. Fuk that. I watch them for entertainment, I'm not devoting myself to them like these fanboys do.
Exact thing morons said about ggg Canelo. I wish wilder would take the offer just to get the fight done tho. He isn't worth more than 30% in that fight and it's debatable how well it will do. Not sure what % 12.5mil would be at the end of the day.
The pac mayweather thing fat Dan was talking about is way out of context...no way that pac sees 100mil from 40% if that fight happened in 2010.
golovkin was alot closer to wilder than he was to pac or canelo or anyone of that sort
so he didnt take the flat fee either
So you'll have no problem in telling me what kind of deal Golovkin got in the end?
Not a fan of the fat one, but he makes some good points;
"...to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.
A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million."
Pac was a PPV star. Wilder is not even close to being on that level. So no, he shouldn't get 40% of the pie.
Didn't Ward get a flat fee for his last fight? And didn't everyone say he got the better deal than Kovalev?
It seems it's the amount of the flat fee...not the flat fee itself.
1.Pacquiao wasn't offered 6x his highest payday, not even 2x.
2.Pacquiao was much closer in drawing power than WIlder is to Joshua.
If Pacquiao was worth 40%, Wilder is worth 5%.
Although you're exaggerating a bit. This is exactly right. This is definitely not the same situation as Mayweather Pacquiao
Is that James DeGale after the Jack fight in your avatar lol?
Yes, it is!
It's a reminder for that you can't play boxing and that you can't only get over with just talent!
Thank you Chunky!!
1.Pacquiao wasn't offered 6x his highest payday, not even 2x.
2.Pacquiao was much closer in drawing power than WIlder is to Joshua.
golovkin was alot closer to wilder than he was to pac or canelo or anyone of that sort
so he didnt take the flat fee either