Please stop listing IBO as a "World Title"!

I don't think this is strictly true. The fighters, networks, promoters, managers, world governments and the sanctioning bodies themselves have made it pretty clear those four titles are the recognized world championships of boxing. There are no other titles that have that level of recognition among so many. Some people do recognize the Ring or Lineal title, indeed some boxing fans rate those titles higher than the 4 belts just because they don't come with the same political shenanigans. HBO's lead promoter bought the Ring and now the Ring has more political shenanigans than any other title. Ring wasn't a recognized world title before the purchase and it's certainly not now. As for the lineal title, it doesn't actually exist. It's a mythical concept. Held in high esteem by some, but not an official recognized world championship.

If you don't have the WBC, WBA, IBF or WBO title, you're not a world champion. Boxing has four recognized world titles. The IBO, Ring and Lineal are not among them. I don't think this is strictly true. Some people do recognize the Ring or Lineal title, indeed some boxing fans rate those titles higher than the 4 belts just because they don't come with the same political shenanigans. Those four belts only have any value whatsoever because people choose to invest that value in them. It doesn't come from the conduct of the individual bodies, because it's often indefensible as the Roy Jones Jr example above shows so clearly. Even within the 4 there are levels. I've seen you rate the WBC as in some way better in posts on the forum and there are some people that still don't recognise the WBO as much of a title for instance given its ignominious beginnings.

If you just have the IBO title, no ring no lineal title..you are not a world champion If you don't have the WBC, WBA, IBF or WBO title, you're not a world champion. Boxing has four recognized world titles. The IBO, Ring and Lineal are not among them.

In early 1998, Roy Jones, Jr. announced that he was relinquishing his WBC light heavyweight title. In response, the WBC ordered a bout between Graciano Rocchigiani from Germany and the former champion Michael Nunn to fill the vacancy, sanctioning it as a world championship match. On 21 March 1998, Rocchigiani won the fight and a WBC belt; in the subsequent WBC rankings, he was listed as "Light-Heavyweight World Champion". Jones, however, had a change of heart and asked if the WBC would reinstate him as the champion. In a move that violated nearly a dozen of its own regulations, the WBC granted the reinstatement. Rocchigiani received a letter from the WBC advising that the publication of his name as champion was a typographical error, and he had never been the official title holder. Rocchigiani immediately filed a lawsuit against the WBC in a U.S. federal court, claiming that the organization's actions were both contrary to their own rules, and injurious to his earning potential (due to diminished professional stature). On 7 May 2003, the judge ruled in Rocchigiani's favor, awarding him $30 million (U.S.) in damages and reinstating him as a former WBC champion (Rocchigiani had lost a bout since his WBC title match). The following day, the WBC sought protection by filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy (i.e., corporate debt restructuring) in Puerto Rico. The organization spent the next 13 months trying to negotiate a six-figure settlement with Rocchigiani, but the fighter at first rejected the proposal. On 11 June 2004, the WBC announced it would enter Chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation (i.e., business closing and total asset sell-off) proceedings, effectively ending its existence. This action prompted some in the boxing community to plead with Rocchigiani to settle the dispute, which he did in mid-July 2004. The WBC continues Someone should write a book about the **** these organisations have pulled over time. More I think about it the more I like the IBO.

So if Glass Joe was the WBC champion and Mike Tyson was the IBO champion , ppl would view Glass Joe as the true champion correct ?:burnout: If you just have the IBO title, no ring no lineal title..you are not a world champion

In early 1998, Roy Jones, Jr. announced that he was relinquishing his WBC light heavyweight title. In response, the WBC ordered a bout between Graciano Rocchigiani from Germany and the former champion Michael Nunn to fill the vacancy, sanctioning it as a world championship match. On 21 March 1998, Rocchigiani won the fight and a WBC belt; in the subsequent WBC rankings, he was listed as "Light-Heavyweight World Champion". Jones, however, had a change of heart and asked if the WBC would reinstate him as the champion. In a move that violated nearly a dozen of its own regulations, the WBC granted the reinstatement. Rocchigiani received a letter from the WBC advising that the publication of his name as champion was a typographical error, and he had never been the official title holder. Rocchigiani immediately filed a lawsuit against the WBC in a U.S. federal court, claiming that the organization's actions were both contrary to their own rules, and injurious to his earning potential (due to diminished professional stature). On 7 May 2003, the judge ruled in Rocchigiani's favor, awarding him $30 million (U.S.) in damages and reinstating him as a former WBC champion (Rocchigiani had lost a bout since his WBC title match). The following day, the WBC sought protection by filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy (i.e., corporate debt restructuring) in Puerto Rico. The organization spent the next 13 months trying to negotiate a six-figure settlement with Rocchigiani, but the fighter at first rejected the proposal. On 11 June 2004, the WBC announced it would enter Chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation (i.e., business closing and total asset sell-off) proceedings, effectively ending its existence. This action prompted some in the boxing community to plead with Rocchigiani to settle the dispute, which he did in mid-July 2004. The WBC continues

Im pretty sure at one point the WBC was called a trash belt too

- There has never been a recognized world heavyweight champion who ditched other belts to just wear the IBO. But how amazing it would be if they did! Imagine if Joshua, or wilder for that matter if he won a unification match said: 'Enough with the corruption, the manipulation of rankings, the differing standards for fighters depending upon their promoters financial influence, these (wba,c,o IBf) belts go in here (bin) and this (IBO belt) is available to any fighter from the top 5 of the boxers rankings who can beat me. I won't fight anyone outside the top 10 and I guarantee a defence against the number one ranked contender each year. I'm donating the fees from my fights that would've gone to these belts owners pockets to a charity for ex boxers who have fallen on hard times.' I wouldn't miss the politics and the shady machinations of the sanctioning groups one bit...

So if Glass Joe was the WBC champion and Mike Tyson was the IBO champion , ppl would view Glass Joe as the true champion correct ?:burnout: Pretty silly post because #1 - I already said there are exceptions. #2 - A real life equivalent of Glass Joe wouldn't be able to win the WBC heavyweight title. #3 - There has never been a recognized world heavyweight champion who ditched other belts to just wear the IBO.

They still havent figured out the belt doesn't make the champion , the champion makes the belt There are rare exceptions where that's the case, but generally speaking that isn't true.

Two things: A) Pretty much every belt is bogus. The whole thing is saturated. Only in the sense that every sports accomplishment is bogus. Who really cares who is the fastest or strongest? We have guns now. It doesn't matter anymore. B) The IBO generally has the best rankings of them all. They just use the boxrec rankings. They don't enforce mandatories and allow champions to fight anybody in the top 50, which is why they can afford to rank fighters who don't want their title.

That's what we want and that would be ideal. But we all know that is not going to happen, thus why I said just leave it as is. Lol It's gonna take the actual fighters to come together and say, "we don't need these worthless belts and 3% fees" and they will be done away with. I mean, you can have 3 and 4 division champs today and that could mean absolutely nothing. You have guys like Mikey Garcia(who I am a fan of) jumping from weight class to weight class cherry picking the weakest champs just to add another "division" to his resume. And if the Ibo is added as a major title within the next 10 years, you're gonna have 6 and 7 division champions like it's nothing. I put no stock in "multi-division champions today". Sugar Ray Leonard pulled that bs and was a lt hvy champ without even fighting in the division. And then you got these catch weight belts.. Boxing is a mess and it's gonna get worse

Smiles, that's a better option. Congratulations.

Two things: A) Pretty much every belt is bogus. The whole thing is saturated. B) The IBO generally has the best rankings of them all. For all the b*tching, moaning, and period-induced complaining that goes on here about corrupt Organizations, when presented with a legitimate alternative that has far less meddling and corruption going on, y'all run for the hills. Face it, most of you don't want parity and fairness. You want a reason to complain like a bunch of feminists. Now, shut the f*ck up and go back to whatever it is you were doing.

Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about it. So keep moving.

And another one. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about it. So keep moving.

Lol, please. You think I have the time to do 3 hours of forensics to find idiotic AJ c0cksmokers. . Again you won, you found 3 people who thinks the IBO means something. Enough forensics from you. 5 stars...

Of course he has 4 titles, he fought for it. I don't care what you think. And another one.

Calm down mate, you found 3 posters that refers to 4 belts. Good on you, you won. Lol, please. You think I have the time to do 3 hours of forensics to find idiotic AJ c0cksmokers. Deal with the facts, you people are the gayest fanbase on earth right right now.

4 bodies is too much, especially when the WBA has 2 champions. I say get rid of all the belts and take it back to 1 champ per division. That's one of the things UFC has right That's what we want and that would be ideal. But we all know that is not going to happen, thus why I said just leave it as is. Lol