That is the difference between these 2. One guy has all the muscles and the fundamentals. But Deontay can click into a super human mode where you cannot explain the things he does.
If you have a sound defense, there's nothing Joshua can do to you. He would stand in front of you and just stare at you for 12 rounds like he did to Parker who didn't even run. Stayed on the ropes but remained defensively sound at all times. Joshua just stared at him. Landed 0 right hands.
Now this is what Deontay does to a defensively sound opponent.
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You can have your chin tucked. Check.
You can have your high guard up. Check.
You can have your low guard up. Check.
You can have your jaw/nose/chin protected in the arm. Check.
YOu can have a great chin. Never been down in the pros. Check.
Wilder blasts his forehead with a short right hand and knocks him down.
You cannot train defense for this.
You have a guy who has actual footwork and ability to box around a jab and even throws hooks in Ali even if you take away speed .. lol
Wilder has no Ali natural boxing abilities . He relies on size even more than Ali did bc the skill levels of Wilder and Ali are obviously different .
Ali with less speed > Wilder with average power
Wilder fanboy club strikes again . :burnout:
the mental gymnastics demonstrated here is nothing short of raging homosexuality.
about 50 years old.
So Ortiz went pro at 43 years old?
When Ortiz fought in amateur tournaments and clearly looks like a young man in his 20s, he was actually 40 years old?
And your evidence for this is?
No need for insults.
What boxing skills impress you about Wilder or Joshua? Davis is ten times better than both in the ring, not even close!
Better at what? And who has he shown these 10 times better than those two skills against? He won't even fight Loma or the other champions, lmao. Mofo Davis can't even speak, lmao. Ok I take that one back. **** Tank Davis. He has no consciousness.
I'm going to be honest, no bull****ting. I don't get why people say that Joshua has better fundamentals. The Wlad fight has fooled a lot of people into thinking that he has more skill than Wilder. That's not how I see this at all. One looks like a fighter and the other an athlete. But he only looks like an athlete, he doesn't fight like an athlete who can fight. To his credit he is winning on size alone, but I fail to see the skill difference between Joshua and Wilder.
If you think Wilder is the most naturally gifted fighter over the last 10 years then you need to take medication real quick.
That's the most insane drivel I've ever heard.
Take Wilder's power from him and you have someone who gets beat by any decent fighter you care to mention.
What a moronic post this was. Not only did you not address what I said you tried a strawman argument BY REMOVING ONE OF HIS GOD GIFTED ABILITIES that I spoke about, dumbass. His natural speed, athleticism, quickness, agility, length, in addition to once in a generation level power makes him one of...if not THE most naturally gifted fighters of the last decade.
Lol everyone who viewed this thread knows who the female talking out of his ass is. You done embarrassed your whole fan base girl.
You. Your name should be "Wilderstalker" with your odd obsession. I am sure you'll stop posting if Wilder sleeps AJ, just like so many Pac fans disappeared after his L to Floyd.
Take RJJ and Ali's speed. Then what do you have left?
you are the one that needs meds.
Wilder is definitely the most gifted power puncher in recent memory.
Haha You're mentally ill. Sorry to bother you. I'll leave you to you fu*ked up fantasies.
Joshua is a better boxer but Wilder is a fighter and just a little bit scary. Training against other boxers isn't necessarily going to prepare you.
Not saying that Wilder isn't headed for catastrophic defeat at some point but in the mean time, enjoy the ride.
You think Stiverne would have be considered as good as Lennox if he beat Wilder?
Now I know you're a troll getting your kicks out of winding people up. Because if you're not, then you're a freak of extreme proportions.
Lummox Lewis got knocked cold by absolute bums. His best wins are against small men.
Tyson 5'10
Holyfield LHW
If you think Wilder is the most naturally gifted fighter over the last 10 years then you need to take medication real quick.
That's the most insane drivel I've ever heard.
Take Wilder's power from him and you have someone who gets beat by any decent fighter you care to mention.
Take RJJ and Ali's speed. Then what do you have left?
you are the one that needs meds.
Wilder is definitely the most gifted power puncher in recent memory.
I hate idiots who bring up Lummox.
That fool got knocked out cold twice by absolute bums. If only Stiverne one punched Wilder then he would be as great as Lummox.
just LMAO
You think Stiverne would have be considered as good as Lennox if he beat Wilder?
Now I know you're a troll getting your kicks out of winding people up. Because if you're not, then you're a freak of extreme proportions.
Explain why 2 top 10 competitive title contenders are not world class.
go........
Lay off the crack pipe if you believe a shot to pieces Thompson is a top 10 fighter.
What did Jennings ever do to place him in the top 10? He became a mandatory to Wlad (Not that it's hard) but never did anything to prove that.
I agree with Brother Nazim. Wilder may be the most naturally gifted boxer in at least 10 years. He's an elite level athlete with speed, quickness, length, nimbleness, and has once in a generation power. Like WTF dude he's a cheat code.
If you think Wilder is the most naturally gifted fighter over the last 10 years then you need to take medication real quick.
That's the most insane drivel I've ever heard.
Take Wilder's power from him and you have someone who gets beat by any decent fighter you care to mention.
There's no Lennox Lewis in the division who can check Wilder. Wilder is unothodox as hell, but he wins. He's that tall high school kid that can just fight. Joshua is the QB of the HS football team. The QB dont want no parts of the tall kid who can just fight...
I hate idiots who bring up Lummox.
That fool got knocked out cold twice by absolute bums. If only Stiverne one punched Wilder then he would be as great as Lummox.
just LMAO
No need for insults.
What boxing skills impress you about Wilder or Joshua? Davis is ten times better than both in the ring, not even close!
Davis needs to fight Loma until then I can't take him serious.
AJ gonna get his head knocked off his shoulders, probably when he least expects it.
One minute he will be thinking hes got this, the next minute he will be waking up on the canvas with no idea how he got their.
There's no Lennox Lewis in the division who can check Wilder. Wilder is unothodox as hell, but he wins. He's that tall high school kid that can just fight. Joshua is the QB of the HS football team. The QB dont want no parts of the tall kid who can just fight...
GOd his wilder fan boy is deluded.
Wilder does have a chance of knocking out Joshua, and likewise vice versus. The longer wilder puts the fight off two factors come more into play for me:
1 - age, this will become a factor as speed is so key to wilder. If he starts slowing if the fights delayed a couple of years he’s obviously worse off
2 - experience. Joshua already arguably has more experience by fighting the far superior opposition on a consistent basis but if you watch his improvement fight on fight it shows a lot. Not many picked up on it during the fight with Parker but watch how clever he was defensively covering with his fight hand, not punching as much as a ‘gamble’ but it protected him against Parker’s right hand and allowed him to counter. That is something that ‘could’ be pivotal a fight with Wilder.
If I was wilder I would stop trying to make ridiculous sums and take my 5x my pay day and take the right now
Explain why 2 top 10 competitive title contenders are not world class.
go........
:lol1:
They weren’t competitive and were nothing but ordinary come-and-go fighters who’d put up a decent effort against mediocre opponents.
None of them are world class, were world class or will ever be world class.