Does any unbiased fan really believe Wilder's team has never contacted Hearn?

Hearn initiated the negotiations last year, thats his point. No no no. Hearn was very clear in the ring. Claiming he'd never been contacted about the fight, which is complete bull****. Hearn initiated Whyte negotiations. Finkel is the one that first brought up AJ. Finkel has emailed and called, even called live on the radio. So we know Hearn is lying when he says nobody has contacted him. That's a clear lie.

Eddie Hearn lied. Fact. That's what he's saying. How has Eddie Hearn lied? He said he would follow up in an email but didn't because Deontay said 50-50 split or no fight? Here's the facts for you because you clearly don't have the right information: November 9 - Eddie Hearn met with Shelly Finkel and Al Haymon for initial discussions. November 29 - Barry Hearn met with Shelly Finkel for further discussions. Evening November 29 - Eddie Hearn emails the same day saying he would email the prospective PnL's sometime in the next week. December 4 - (3 business days later) Wilder says to ESPN, its 50/50 or we don't see the fight. March 11 - Shelly Finkel lies to Boxingscene in this article: “In the story , he said the reason he didn’t call me was Deontay said the fight won’t happen if the fight’s not 50-50,” Finkel told BoxingScene.com. “The problem with that answer is that Deontay didn’t say that until a month after I met with Barry Hearn. So it wasn’t that Deontay said that, and that’s the reason Eddie didn’t call. Now he’s using that as an excuse, but that happened a month later. It didn’t happen before then. So maybe Shelly Finkel isn't a liar, maybe he is just old and doesn't know what day it is. But Eddie didn't lie.

If you can’t see yourself that you have bias then I wouldn’t even start a thread like this. Everyone else can see the trolling aspect. Eddie Hearn lied. Fact. That's what he's saying.

What he wants and what will be negotiated aren’t always the same. And your first sentence is beyond stupid. Are you trying to have an intelligent conversation or just looking for people who believe “everything Deontay says?” There are many on here who say Hearn is liar because Deontay has "exposed" him when in actual fact the opposite is true. But he didn't just say I think the splits should be 50-50, he said it is 50-50 or we don't see the fight. As I said, if AJ said its 90-10 and no fight, all the Wilder fans would say AJ priced himself out. Unfortunately many on here can't see their hypocrisy.

yeah I don't believe they've contacted him. I heard the boxingvoice one where all of the people were on incl. shelly finkel. And no one from either side had really made any advances.

After the fight last night, Eddie Hearn said nobody from Wilder's team has ever contacted him and if they can't "walk the walk" they shouldn't "talk the talk." It's a good line to manipulate biased fans who want to believe anything Eddie says, but do any unbiased fans believe him? Eddie has already publicly admitted that he sat down in person to discuss the fight with Al Haymon and Shelly Finkel. Eddie has already publicly admitted that he's emailed about the fight with Shelly Finkel. Eddie has already admitted that Shelly Finkel met with the owner of Matchroom (Eddie's father). So we already know for a fact that Eddie was lying in the ring after the fight. So how could any unbiased observer believe him when it's so easy to figure out that he's definitely lying? Hearn initiated the negotiations last year, thats his point. Wilder and team talked in the media, but they never put together any sort of official offer or got in touch with Hearn/Joshua's manager personally until Hearn initiated it.

That's not what happened. Why do you believe that's what happened? Is that what you heard Eddie Hearn say? We know it's not true because Hearn was live on a radio interview when Finkel called in. So right there we know Hearn is lying when he says he's never been contacted because we literally heard him be contacted live on a radio show. The meeting is then set up live on that radio show, so we know it was Finkel taking the initiative to call Hearn to set up a meeting. How can Hearn say nobody has ever contacted him when we know of so many confirmed instances where somebody contacted him? Go and rewatch the show. Eddie called Shelley to make the Whyte fight and Shelley returned Eddie's call. Eddie is talking about initiating contact. Shelley has only ever responded to Eddie's phone calls or emails.

Because Wilder's outburst was in response to Hearn not keeping his word. Hearn said he'd get back to Finkel THAT WEEK with numbers. Hearn lied and never got back to him. So the next week, knowing that Hearn had blown off the negotiations and stopped answering, Wilder took a stronger position in his interviews. So even if Hearn was an idiot and took Wilder's interviews seriously, it still couldn't be the reason for not sending what was promised by a specified deadline because Wilder's comments were after the deadline passed. Unless you're suggesting that Eddie Hearn has a time machine?!? Barry Hearn met Finkel on 29 December. Eddie followed up with an email a few days later saying he would send financial projections within the next week. Wilder then said on the 4th of December its 50-50 or no fight. So Eddie didn't bother wasting his time when Parker's team seemed to be more interested in making the fight. Shelley Finkel is the liar. He said Wilder didn't make the 50-50 or no fight comments until a month after the meeting when in actual fact Wilder made them 5 days after the meeting.

If wilder was serious he would’ve been in cardiff Not like you are biased or anything. :lol1::lol1:

So why didn't Shelley call Eddie and say Wilder's just hyping the fight if the 50-50 or no fight comment isn't true? Because Wilder's outburst was in response to Hearn not keeping his word. Hearn said he'd get back to Finkel THAT WEEK with numbers. Hearn lied and never got back to him. So the next week, knowing that Hearn had blown off the negotiations and stopped answering, Wilder took a stronger position in his interviews. So even if Hearn was an idiot and took Wilder's interviews seriously, it still couldn't be the reason for not sending what was promised by a specified deadline because Wilder's comments were after the deadline passed. Unless you're suggesting that Eddie Hearn has a time machine?!?

Well Eddie called Finkel to talk about the Whyte fight. Finkel called him back to say they weren't interest and it ended up setting up the meeting with Finkel and Haymon. That's not what happened. Why do you believe that's what happened? Is that what you heard Eddie Hearn say? We know it's not true because Hearn was live on a radio interview when Finkel called in. So right there we know Hearn is lying when he says he's never been contacted because we literally heard him be contacted live on a radio show. The meeting is then set up live on that radio show, so we know it was Finkel taking the initiative to call Hearn to set up a meeting. How can Hearn say nobody has ever contacted him when we know of so many confirmed instances where somebody contacted him?

Well according to Wilder fans we're supposed to believe everything Deontay says. Whats the point of saying it anyway if it wasn't true? Exactly. If Wilder says it then it's true and Hearn is lying. But it's biased opinion if anyone British suggests other way round ! Makes me laugh anyone even responds to these three musketeers

Well according to Wilder fans we're supposed to believe everything Deontay says. Whats the point of saying it anyway if it wasn't true? What he wants and what will be negotiated aren’t always the same. And your first sentence is beyond stupid. Are you trying to have an intelligent conversation or just looking for people who believe “everything Deontay says?”

Same reason why Hearn didn’t call them to verify if 50-50 was true. Has nothing to do with negotiation. Well according to Wilder fans we're supposed to believe everything Deontay says. Whats the point of saying it anyway if it wasn't true?

Hmm...seems this post admits Hearn has always been the one who reaches out majority of the time. Finkel on the other hand tried to bypass Eddie and talked to his retired dad, instead. Plus Finkel's email didn't do a damn thing because, as Eddie puts it, Wilder was announcing the fight should be 50/50. What a way to destroy any form of negotiations. (These guys should be coordinating with each other first before going to the media.) And wasn't Hearn making an hefty offer to Wilder asking him to fight Dylan Whyte first as a precondition leading to the AJ fight? It was all over the news for weeks. Seems Wilder has been uncooperative throughout the whole process. You hit the nail on the head doe. Just for once why can't this Wilder guy just calm down and think hard first before opening his mouth? He was begging for the fight. Hearn said fight Dylan Whyte first for $4 mil and you get the AJ fight. What did Wilder do? Demand $7 mil for the Whyte fight and a written AJ guarantee, which Hearn was already approving of. Kills me.

So why didn't Shelley call Eddie and say Wilder's just hyping the fight if the 50-50 or no fight comment isn't true? If AJ came out publicly and said 90-10 or no fight and Wilder#s team ended negotiations and did a deal with someone else you would not be saying the same thing. You would of said AJ was ducking. Same reason why Hearn didn’t call them to verify if 50-50 was true. Has nothing to do with negotiation.

But that is such a great example of Eddie manipulating the public. Wilder says all sorts of stuff publicly to hype the fight. That has nothing to do with the numbers being discussed behind the scenes and Eddie knows that. Eddie is one of the best promoters in the world, if not the best. He's not an idiot. Only an idiot would believe what Wilder says in an interview trying to hype the fight over what's being discussed privately with Haymon and Finkel. Hearn simply didn't want the fight and used Wilder's interview as an excuse to stall. Finkel and Hearn were discussing numbers and Hearn promised to send some numbers over in a few days. Then he never did. Wilder's interview didn't even take place during those few days, so it's clearly just a convenient excuse for Hearn to fool people. The timeline doesn't even add up. So why didn't Shelley call Eddie and say Wilder's just hyping the fight if the 50-50 or no fight comment isn't true? If AJ came out publicly and said 90-10 or no fight and Wilder#s team ended negotiations and did a deal with someone else you would not be saying the same thing. You would of said AJ was ducking.

After the fight last night, Eddie Hearn said nobody from Wilder's team has ever contacted him and if they can't "walk the walk" they shouldn't "talk the talk." It's a good line to manipulate biased fans who want to believe anything Eddie says, but do any unbiased fans believe him? Eddie has already publicly admitted that he sat down in person to discuss the fight with Al Haymon and Shelly Finkel. Eddie has already publicly admitted that he's emailed about the fight with Shelly Finkel. Eddie has already admitted that Shelly Finkel met with the owner of Matchroom (Eddie's father). So we already know for a fact that Eddie was lying in the ring after the fight. So how could any unbiased observer believe him when it's so easy to figure out that he's definitely lying? Well Eddie called Finkel to talk about the Whyte fight. Finkel called him back to say they weren't interest and it ended up setting up the meeting with Finkel and Haymon. If Shelley had made numerous calls to Eddie, don't think he would of produced a call log rather than an email that Eddie didn't follow up on? Here's a question, if Wilder wants the fight so bad why haven't Finkel or Haymon flown to London to discuss the fight? Given they are probably getting 10% each for the fight that's probably going to end up being $1.5-2m a piece. Surely that would be incentive to do everything possible to get the deal done. It seems like Haymon doesn't really give a f*ck about Wilder and Finkel is retired and just refreshes his emails. No proactiveness from either.

Finkel's email didn't do a damn thing because, as Eddie puts it, Wilder was announcing the fight should be 50/50. What a way to destroy any form of negotiations. (These guys should be coordinating with each other first before going to the media.) But that is such a great example of Eddie manipulating the public. Wilder says all sorts of stuff publicly to hype the fight. That has nothing to do with the numbers being discussed behind the scenes and Eddie knows that. Eddie is one of the best promoters in the world, if not the best. He's not an idiot. Only an idiot would believe what Wilder says in an interview trying to hype the fight over what's being discussed privately with Haymon and Finkel. Hearn simply didn't want the fight and used Wilder's interview as an excuse to stall. Finkel and Hearn were discussing numbers and Hearn promised to send some numbers over in a few days. Then he never did. Wilder's interview didn't even take place during those few days, so it's clearly just a convenient excuse for Hearn to fool people. The timeline doesn't even add up.

Hearn had preliminary meetings with Haymon and wilders team whereby they both expressed they wished to have the fight done for this year. Thats it end of... thats all that was said and you dont know more than any of the rest of us in that regard. Barry hearn met finkel on eddies say-so to run through old times and discuss the fight. I have a feeling it wasnt discussed in great detail as barry is nothing to do with AJ. Hearn emailed finkel to state he would get some figures across in regards to the fight in terms of financials, rights etc. Wilder then came out and said 50/50 or no fight, so hearn didnt bother going back to the table. Since then.. wilder has stated numerous different demans, the main one being whatever split then reversed in the rematch. Hearn has said this fine. But as someone with a "promoters license" and "contacts" you should know that wilder does not make his own fights. Jay deas and haymon make those decisions.. finkel does not and neither does dibella or anybody else. Wilder can say what the **** he likes, make demands and agreements etc , but until somebody from his side THAT CAN MAKE THE DEAL contacts hearn with those stipulations.. then your points are moot. You are stating hearn HAS to contact them.. why ? he has a number and a figure, if they dont like it tough. If Wilder has a number and shouts it out and hearn agrees to that... then have haymon contact him and state as much. Why does hearn have to do all the dog work?