The Klitchko that fought Joshua would have been knocked out by Ortiz.
:lol1: :lol1:
Sure he would. The same Ortiz that couldn't even knock out Malik Scott would have knocked out Wladimir Klitschko.
nah
Never said he was in his prime. But power is the last thing to go and let's not pretend that Klitschko in any state wouldn't absolutely smash Ortiz.
It's funny that you call me a fanboy but come up with such absolutely hilariously retarded statements such as Ortiz is somehow a better fighter than Klitschko despite never proving it :lol1:
durp Jennings doe
The Klitchko that fought Joshua would have been knocked out by Ortiz.
Wilder has proven himself to have a decent chin. AJ fans can no longer lie about his chin so their next strategy is to say "Wilder doe". Wilder is a fking mess but the dude proved his chin is on the opposite end of the mohs hardness scale from AJ's.
Let's just deal in reality.
Wilder; powerful, rugged, terrible boxer.
AJ; skilled boxer, terrible stamina, chinny.
It evens out, and that's why everyone is dying for this match. If AJ had everything to his advantage, there would be no interest in this.
Perfect post.
So, you got nothing and your words are worthless again. I'm shocked! :rofl:
Regarding the thread, I got so many green Ks off that because it was intended to trigger those fanatic douchebags. You guys got butthurt and you want to pretend you gave a clowning? :lol1: I'll bump it after you all bail on ol G and remind you.
If you want to go further into personal matters, I said kind things about your bag vid out of sympathy because everyone was laughing at you. Truthfully, it was a slow, stiff man loading up and putting everything into power, in a way that would never fly against a live, moving opponent.
I think your problem is that you've personally vested yourself into this place so you're willing to lie, and delude even yourself, to make points about boxing celebs. I don't give a shyt about any of those dudes other than I like seeing them fight on a saturday night. Not to mention how little I care about personas on this forum. I'm a fan of the science of boxing and the science don't lie. Fanboys do.
😭😭😭😭😭 That Juggernonce weirdo tried to lie to me that he “fought Yuri Vaulin”🤣🤣🤣, “was trained by Bill Sharkey”🤣🤣🤣 and “went 5-0 in one night”😭😭😭😭😭
The biggest retard on this entire site, claims he’s some HW expert and he can’t even spell KLITSCHKO🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
Comedy gold
You dont take a Klitchko full thrust right hand and not have a chin, you do know Klitchko didnt just hit him once right ?
You know who would have a suspect chin?
A guy rocked by weak puncher Spzilka , and a guy getting knocked down from a JAB by a 5'9 over weight dude . Along with a journeyman named Harold Sconiers blasting him into the ropes on his seat ! :boxing:
“Klitchko” you’re still spelling it WRONG you dumb b*stard🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The gift that keeps on giving...
In the heavyweight division that doesn’t mean much wilder just KO’d the most skilled fighter at hw.
Yes he did KO him. But the guy was 40 and won basically every round prior to that, and almost slept wilder himself the one time he hit him clean and flush. I can write off that win the same way you guys write off the win AJ has vs klitschko who was better than Ortiz. Also you wilder fans need to stop proclaming ortiz the most skilled all of a sudden, before the fight you all said he was easy work and an old man.
Point is, AJ is still better than wilder. He has better footwork, better defense, better combinations and and hand speed and just in general better boxing fundamentals and skills. Wilder has one advantage over him and thats stamina. If im picking between 2 big and powerful guys with big punching power, im gonna pick the guy who has more skills.
Nobody said hes perfect, he just a better boxer than wilder.
In the heavyweight division that doesn’t mean much wilder just KO’d the most skilled fighter at hw.
Thats the problem you NEED to have Parker win if its not a bet than its fanboyism which distorts your points .
theres no need to take this further like always youll disappear after a fight until the smoke clears ,but dont worry i'll be reminding you about EVERYTHING . lol
I don't NEED anything, I'm not a Parker fan or a Joshua fan, I hope the best fighter wins and it's a good fight. This just boils down to your obvious fanboyism of Joshua and the fact you can't handle my opinion that Parker is a more rounded boxer than Joshua and can fight in multiple styles, that's it! that's how pathetic you are. You haven't given me one example of Joshua having better inside, back foot, speed, jab, lateral movement, foot work etc etc beacsue it doesn't exist!
You're right, maybe you should stop replying to all my comments then you idiot! but feel free to pile on if Aj lands an early ko, then you can claim another "win" that you're so desperate for. what a sad man-child you are.
I dont see Parker winning more then a rnd , you are overating him and underating Joshua ...
The fight will probably be over mid rnds if your lucky .
I dont have to make a list ,if you actually believed in what you are saying you would have made a thread explaining why Parker is more skilled . You know the backlash you will get thats why !
How is the guy with the poorest accuracy more skilled?
That basically ends right there !:dead:
I'm not underrating Joshua, I think he is the more effective fighter, I just believe Parker has not had his best fight yet, and has under-performed and fought a very good defensive fighter in his last few fights. I believe he has the skills, movement, stamina, chin and a good enough jab and back foot ability to be competitive with Joshua (who lets not forget is no where near the finished article himself and likely has tools in his locker that he hasn't used yet as well).
These are two young and inexperienced HW's, I have seen enough from Parker to know that he has good boxing skills, he's just not had a stand out performance yet, and I believe Parker can win this fight if he executes the right gameplan.
I have said the same things in every other thread regarding the fight, I don't need to make a thread and I'm not afraid of ridicule by moron's like you.
I've already bet on Parker in this fight and am due a lot of money if he wins, even if he loses, even if Joshua catches him and ko's him, if it's competitive and Parker wins an even share of rounds will you admit I was right? doubtful.
Man this means as much as Wilder getting hurt in Ams NOTHING.Both these guys had less then 35-40 Am fights they have improved a ton.(Boy this feels weird I'm always defending Wilder because Joshua has sooo many more fanboys)
I’m just reminding the aj fanboys he’s not mr perfect
Joshua and Hearn both know that DEONTAY WILDER is a HUGE THREAT to their operation. They will make every excuse going in order not to face him.
They will continue to fight average guys like Joesph Parker, Big Baby Miller and Dillian Whyte hopeing that Wilder either gets beat by someone else or grows too old to be a threat.
Wilder vs Joshua is a true 50-50 fight, who ever lands their bomb first wins and i'd give the edge to Wilder just for his speed advantage.
I think Parker is a legit choice, based on standing on the division (even though I think he's going to get beat easily) but the idea that he might fight Miller after reinforces the idea that Hearn is milking a cow. Anyone who defends that is just trash.
The entire forum clowned you , you RAN off it fast as you ALWAYS do when heat is on doe ? lol
You CLAIM ugly bag work??
post it and i'll explain it though even M. Tyson complemented me on what i was doing , which was POWER ?
I know one thing ...
You wouldn't DARE say anything to my face ,would you bc then it gets REAL ugly ...well for you ...."Grease Ball " was it .pfffft ?:twak:
So, you got nothing and your words are worthless again. I'm shocked! :rofl:
Regarding the thread, I got so many green Ks off that because it was intended to trigger those fanatic douchebags. You guys got butthurt and you want to pretend you gave a clowning? :lol1: I'll bump it after you all bail on ol G and remind you.
If you want to go further into personal matters, I said kind things about your bag vid out of sympathy because everyone was laughing at you. Truthfully, it was a slow, stiff man loading up and putting everything into power, in a way that would never fly against a live, moving opponent.
I think your problem is that you've personally vested yourself into this place so you're willing to lie, and delude even yourself, to make points about boxing celebs. I don't give a shyt about any of those dudes other than I like seeing them fight on a saturday night. Not to mention how little I care about personas on this forum. I'm a fan of the science of boxing and the science don't lie. Fanboys do.
Joshua and Hearn both know that DEONTAY WILDER is a HUGE THREAT to their operation. They will make every excuse going in order not to face him.
They will continue to fight average guys like Joesph Parker, Big Baby Miller and Dillian Whyte hopeing that Wilder either gets beat by someone else or grows too old to be a threat.
Wilder vs Joshua is a true 50-50 fight, who ever lands their bomb first wins and i'd give the edge to Wilder just for his speed advantage.
Agree on Hearn and starting to believe Joshua are afraid of taking chance to lose out on more money.No reason to avoid anymore Joshua has already made a ton.
Fragile chin at its finest Wilder will have a field day
Man this means as much as Wilder getting hurt in Ams NOTHING.Both these guys had less then 35-40 Am fights they have improved a ton.(Boy this feels weird I'm always defending Wilder because Joshua has sooo many more fanboys)
Joshua and Hearn both know that DEONTAY WILDER is a HUGE THREAT to their operation. They will make every excuse going in order not to face him.
They will continue to fight average guys like Joesph Parker, Big Baby Miller and Dillian Whyte hopeing that Wilder either gets beat by someone else or grows too old to be a threat.
Wilder vs Joshua is a true 50-50 fight, who ever lands their bomb first wins and i'd give the edge to Wilder just for his speed advantage.