I don’t think there is a number 1 until after the unification. Wilder, Fury, Joshua have to fight each other. Without these fights no one can be crowned number one.
You have a point, but somebody still has to fill the slot.
Wilder is #3 behind Povetkin, just compare their resumes.
Joshua is the clear #1 and the only real champion out there. The rest is nothing. All of the other Heavyweights will get beaten by Gassiev/Usyk who will move up from Cruiser.
When was the last time Povetkin beat a top 5 HW? How about a top 10 HW?
I don’t think there is a number 1 until after the unification. Wilder, Fury, Joshua have to fight each other. Without these fights no one can be crowned number one.
That's fair^. I personally rate Ortiz very high based on his apparent skill and this win places Deontay slightly ahead of Joshua for me. However, it's completely up for debate and any reasonable fan would admit that.
Side note, now that we know Deontay can take a punch, I think AJ is in trouble because his chin is fragile and Deontay is the hardest, and possibly fastest, hitter AJ will have seen in the pros.
I don’t think there is a number 1 until after the unification. Wilder, Fury, Joshua have to fight each other. Without these fights no one can be crowned number one.
He definitely has a case for it seeing how he defeated the best contender who was also his worst stylistic nightmare. Let me copy what I said in other thread: I've watched the fight again and man, Wilder really outboxed Ortiz. On top of landing more, he landed way more jabs, kept distance very well and countered well. In fact, all times that Ortiz went down it started with counters. His small steps didn't let Ortiz find his range and he was ducking preemptively after most big rights, what inabled Ortiz to counter them. To top it off, he adjusted to the right hook that hurt him and blocked it afterwards
P.S.: Ortiz wasn't gassed, he was hurt
Wilder is #3 behind Povetkin, just compare their resumes.
Joshua is the clear #1 and the only real champion out there. The rest is nothing. All of the other Heavyweights will get beaten by Gassiev/Usyk who will move up from Cruiser.
Your anti American agenda is showing through again. Absolutely no credible boxing publication, organization or fan rates Povetkin above Wilder.
It’s a lot better than in 2006 when Sergei Lialhovich and Oleg Maskaev were World heavyweight champions
At least we had a dominant highly skilled champion in Wlad and then also another elite champion in Vitali for the majority of the 00’s. But that era was also pretty weak. 2006 was a shocking year for HW boxing, as well as the two you mentioned, Valuev was also a titleholder😬😬😬
Wilder is #3 behind Povetkin, just compare their resumes.
Not anymore. After last night, you are going to be in the extreme extreme minority if you keep Povetkin ahead of Wilder. Wilder just jumped Povetkin in the boxrec rankings, so you can't play the resume card anymore since boxrec is computerized and purely going by resume.
The division is incredibly weak. Full of overrated fighters with limited skills. I’d still say AJ is #1 based on resume, it’s close though.
It’s a lot better than in 2006 when Sergei Lialhovich and Oleg Maskaev were World heavyweight champions
Wilder is #3 behind Povetkin, just compare their resumes.
Joshua is the clear #1 and the only real champion out there. The rest is nothing. All of the other Heavyweights will get beaten by Gassiev/Usyk who will move up from Cruiser.
If Joshua struggled that much against Ortiz you'd all say he was exposed. He won every round and stopped takam and people said he was exposed lol.
Stop it douche bag. Takam and Ortiz are worlds apart in class.
Right now you still have to rate Joshua higher than Wilder but that gap is closing and H2H might be another story.
I don't see how anybody can disagree with this. The USA back on top.
AJ is unified champ and will remain #1 in my rankings unless he struggles with Parker.
Nothing to contribute I see. I'm laying down facts and a making my case boi, seems like you're the one trolling here. Move along then.
Facts?? What facts? You said most people would have Wilder, but it is in fact Joshua who most people have as the number 1.
So yeah, you can't blame people if they think you're a troll. I don't think you are though, you're just American. Haha.
How is this a troll post you turd? It's debatable and I feel that Wilder has the top spot and most will agree. People having AJ, as misguided as they might be, have their case too.
If AJ is already in the top spot, how can Wilder take it without beating him you idiot? You don't take Joshua's place because he beat Ortiz, that's silly.
The vast majority have it right with Joshua. The only people who have Wilder are deluded Americans, and no one with any sense listens to that bull****.
The Parker fight hasn't happened and it's not a given AJ automatically wins, we're talking about now, and it's close.
Its essentially an argument between ATG top 10 Klitschko, vs Ortiz, throwing in Takam and Stiverne between them for good measure.
You ask 100 knowledgeable people and you'll find the results will not be close at all
I doubt any major or respectable rankings will have Wilder as no.1
Especially when Joshua beats Parker, who is near universally ranked higher than Ortiz was..
The Parker fight hasn't happened and it's not a given AJ automatically wins, we're talking about now, and it's close.
I doubt any major or respectable rankings will have Wilder as no.1
Especially when Joshua beats Parker, who is near universally ranked higher than Ortiz was..