We Have Seen A Great Like Wilder Before

I disagree. No, we have never seen a fighter to forgive and give another very dangerous and undefeated fighter a second chance for a voluntary opportunity to challenge for his World title after getting popped for PED use. That was unprecedented in and of itself and the nerve of some boxing fans to still want to hate on this guy. That fight was his gift to boxing fans and yet he still gets no love or respect from them; Which is something I find beyond objectionable.

I just gave you a guy who has been in the ring with both. Not sparring (although there is video of a guy who sparred all three- Wilder, Ortiz, and Joshua- who says the same, that Wilder hits the hardest) but a real fight. Don't know what more proof you need. Good try tho... Yes? And Larry Holmes said in an interview that Earnie Shavers was a more powerful puncher than Mike Tyson. Despite the fact that it was Mike Tyson who knocked Larry Holmes out cold whilst Earnie Shavers couldn't. What one boxer says isn't that relevant in an interview in regards to who hits harder between two other boxers. Unless it's a general consensus among multiple boxers who have sparred / fought the boxers being compared. Most of the time , boxers have agenda and they therefore lie. Eric Molina was finished by Anthony Joshua in less time and with fewer punches. Yet, he claims Deontay Wilder punches harder. You want to know why? Because he wants to take credit for himself by getting people to believe that because he lasted as long as he did against Deontay Wilder, that it therefore makes him look good. Results show otherwise! Anthony Joshua KO'ed Eric Molina with fewer punches and in less time than Deontay Wilder did. Ergo, PROVING that Joshua has greater power. Irrespective of what Molina might SAY. Of course, one fight among a common opponent doesn't give us the full picture. However, Joshua has already shown better knockout feats in fewer bouts than Wilder has so far. He has knocked out tougher, more difficult and more durable opponents than Deontay Wilder has done. Wladimir Klitschko > >> Anthony Joshua > David Haye = Deontay Wilder when it comes down to RAW punching power! And the only time Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder shared the ring with each other. Wilder was dropped multiple times and knocked out unconscious. That's all we need to really know for now!

Even prime David Haye probably hits just as hard as Deontay Wilder in all honesty! I just gave you a guy who has been in the ring with both. Not sparring (although there is video of a guy who sparred all three- Wilder, Ortiz, and Joshua- who says the same, that Wilder hits the hardest) but a real fight. Don't know what more proof you need. Good try tho...

Wlad is probably the hardest hitting HW in history. He had 1 punch KO power in both hands. Sit down you clown. Even prime David Haye probably hits just as hard as Deontay Wilder in all honesty! If we're going by a single knockout performance. Then David Haye's knockout over Dereck Chisora is more impressive than any opponent Deontay Wilder has knocked out. Unlike the guys that Deontay Wilder has been knocking out. Including Luis Ortiz. Dereck Chisora has actually been in the ring with other power punchers. Including Vitali Klitschko, Tyson Fury and Dillian Whyte. Yet, only David Haye was ever able to knock Chisora out cleanly. Meanwhile, the vast majority of Wilder's opponents have either been KO'ed before and have a suspect chin. Or they have been KO'ed before and after multiple times. Or they've never been in the ring against other power punchers and their chins haven't been tested (like Chisora's). If Wilder was around in 2011 like he is right now. Wladimir Klitschko would've made Wilder irrelevant by now by beating him more brutally via knock out than how he did against David Haye.

I was just about to say this. Marciano was a disaster from a technical standpoint but he was a brutal KO artist who knocked your arse out.. We love a sport where being able to KTFO of a guy is just as important as being able to dance around him for 12 rounds and pile up points. Greatness can be measured either way.

His name? Rocky Marciano. Yes, the styles are completely different. Yes, physically they are very different. However, the things they share make them more alike than one might think: 1) Great stamina 2) Great chin 3) Otherwordly power This is how both men beat technically superior opponents. I was just about to say this. Marciano was a disaster from a technical standpoint but he was a brutal KO artist who knocked your arse out..

Here you go. Check out how many fall to the left hook too. Dynamite in both hands. Not a 1 punch guy like Wilder. Again, I explained a few posts ago why something like this is bullshyt because I knew a superficial thinker like yourself would think this was some kind of proof. How about you give me a compilation of Wlad's early KOs instead? How many guys has Wlad taken out within 3 rounds? See, something like that takes cumulative damage and stamina deficits out of the equation. Good Luck.

Anthony Joshua > Deontay Wilder in terms of punching power. Never mind Wladimir Klitschko.

Ortiz hits harder than Wlad. Luis nailed Deontay with multiple flush shots. Any other heavyweight probably goes down; most get stopped. Wlad, on the other hand, never landed anything else of significance on AJ the rest of the round, tho not for lack of trying. Wilder showed an extraordinary chin against a guy who hits as hard as AJ does. He is winning fights a lot like Marciano did back in the day, maximizing his physical gifts to offset the technical superiority of his opponents. No contest! - Wladimir Klitschko has KO'ed more previously UN-KO'ed opponents than Deontay Wilder. - Wladimir Klitschko has KO'ed more previously unbeaten opponents than Deontay Wilder. - Wladimir Klitschko has KO'ed more opponents who were never KO'ed before or after, since getting KO'ed by Wladimir Klitschko. - Wladimir Klitschko has KO'ed more opponents ranked in the top 10. The vast majority of Deontay Wilder's knockouts have been against opponents who were previously KO'ed with suspect chins or opponents like Luis Ortiz who was old, not in the appropriate physical condition and was physically ill with high blood pressure. Even Anthony Joshua has more impressive knockout feats in LESS fights than Deontay Wilder. Deontay Wilder has only KO'ed Luis Ortiz who had a decent enough chin. Otherwise, his knockout record doesn't suggest he hits quite as hard as Wladimir Klitschko. Wladimir Klitschko doesn't even fully commit to most of his punches but still punches at least just as hard, if not harder. If Wlad decided to windmill like Wilder, very few opponents will see the 2nd round. This isn't even a contest! Anthony Joshua > Deontay Wilder in terms of punching power. Never mind Wladimir Klitschko.

1 punch, lights out i'm talking about. Actual real knockouts where the opponent is sleeping. OK, you are the one making the assertion. You prove it.

He doesn't what? I guarantee i can find more 1 punch KO's by Wlad than Wilder and against better competition. This is an ignorant statement. Most KOs, if you isolate them, start with and end with one punch. Wilder's latest fight with Ortiz ended with a vicious uppercut and if that was all I showed you then it would look like a one punch KO. It wasn't. And neither were most of Wlad's stoppages. He used his jab to wear down opponents, got them drunk. The KO punch was usually a coup de gras, a cherry on top of the sundae Wlad been crafting the whole fight. Wlad was never a one punch guy.

He doesn't what? I guarantee i can find more 1 punch KO's by Wlad than Wilder and against better competition. Current WBC champion Deontay Wilder and former division ruler Wladimir Klitschko are among the heavyweights who have retained Gassiev's services. The Russian slugger says Wilder is a harder worker, a bigger puncher and has a difficult style to figure out. "Klitschko is a very clever boxer, he's very smart in the way that he uses his long arms, his height. He just keeps his left out. To those who are shorter, it is impossible to get close to him. He has a very discreet right jab. You simply do not see it, it appears out of nowhere. But I would not say that his jab is super-strong - just a good, strong punch for a heavyweight," Gassiev told Match TV. "Wilder is the hardest worker I've been in with. , in addition he has dangerous angles to his attacks that are difficult to understand. If Klitschko has a classic technique, then Wilder is very unusual and his attacks are very difficult to defend against. If you look from the outside, the movements seem clumsy, but in the ring they work in a very efficient manner." https://www.boxingscene.com/gassiev-wilder-hits-harder-works-harder-klitschko--109703

Wlad is probably the hardest hitting HW in history. He had 1 punch KO power in both hands. Sit down you clown. no he doesn't. just LMAO

Wlad would be on any top 10 list of hardest hitting HW in history but according to you Ortiz hits harder, C'mon now. He isn't even Top 15 and may not be top 20. He isn't even the hardest puncher in his own family...

isnt a good chin something like golovkin has? He eats punches and keeps coming forward without being wobbled or hurt. Wilder was hurt with the first decent shot ortiz landed. He has a good recovery, but thats not what a good chin looks like. He doesnt have a weak chin, but not having a weak chin does not equal having a good chin. Guys like Tua, Ibeabuchi, Foreman or toney had awesome chins at heavyweight. Wilder was not hurt by the 1st decent shot Ortiz landed. He had been hit multiple times before that. What made this punch count was Wilder was throwing and was receiving a punch back while throwing. Ortiz then jumped on him with a left which Wilder did not see. The left hand hurt Wilder more than the right. Then came the barrages.

i still have a hard time remembering when wilder actually hit the deck? the way some of these guys talk down about wilder you would have thought he got off the deck...but he never left his feet....which is the point, people defending wilders chin, are trying to make These delusional guys work for Eddie. They see the truth and spin it whichever way suits them, just like the guy who says Wlad is the heaviest puncher in heavyweight history. Even the eye test says Wilder punches harder than Wlad.... lol.

isnt a good chin something like golovkin has? He eats punches and keeps coming forward without being wobbled or hurt. Wilder was hurt with the first decent shot ortiz landed. He has a good recovery, but thats not what a good chin looks like. He doesnt have a weak chin, but not having a weak chin does not equal having a good chin. Guys like Tua, Ibeabuchi, Foreman or toney had awesome chins at heavyweight.

i still have a hard time remembering when wilder actually hit the deck? the way some of these guys talk down about wilder you would have thought he got off the deck...but he never left his feet....which is the point, people defending wilders chin, are trying to make

Wilder was part of that era. Now the sh1t has floated to the top because Wlad isn't there to keep the turds down. THIS IS THE WEAKEST ERA, there's not 1 great fighter in the entire division. Wlad was really never shyt. In his prime was when Purrity and Brewster happened. His "reign" was mostly post-prime and happened against a bunch of no names, has-beens, and never-weres..which tells you how weak the division really was. Wlad is the most overrated heavyweight in the history of the sport and truly DOES NOT belong in any discussion of top 10 all time heavies. Thank God the division finally evolved.

Ortiz knocked out Jennings. Wlad couldn't. Ortiz power > Wlad