Is Luis Ortiz even any better than Andy Ruiz Jr, Dominic Brezeale, Kubrat Pulev or

Yes Ortiz is better than all those guys mentioned. Brezale and Ruiz? Lmfao i think Ortiz is obviously better than them.

Ortiz on roids is a force. Off roids, not so much

Put Ortiz under microscope, he do things that no other heavyweight do. I got him defeating Povetkin if that fight ever happen.

Ortiz Knocked out Jennings. Jennings went distance with Klitscko. Zero agrument. This is a better win for Wilder than AJ beating a 41 year old Klitscko. Wladimir Klitschko dominated the heavyweight division for around a decade by staying on top as the number 1 heavyweight in the world for that period of time. Meanwhile, Luis Ortiz has done nothing impressive in the heavyweight division other than beating Bryant Jennings and Tony Thompson. Two guys that are Wlad's leftovers. And has never been the number 1 heavyweight in the world, nor a champion. I think it's obvious which boxer is better and more impressive to beat. Anthony Joshua beating Wladimir Klitschko at age 27 whilst having less than 20 bouts > Deontay Wilder beating Luis Ortiz at age 32 in 40 bouts. This isn't even a contest! BTW, Wladimir Klitschko had a shoulder injury when he fought Bryant Jennings and was finished as a top level fighter by that time.

But the question is, what has Luis Ortiz done in his career to suggest he is any better than the boxers I've mentioned? The best opponents Luis Ortiz beat, really aren't any better than the best opponents some of those aforementioned boxers I've mentioned beat. And Alexander Povetkin has far greater amateur + pro accomplishments. What has Luis Ortiz done to suggest he is better than Povetkin? Ortiz Knocked out Jennings. Jennings went distance with Klitscko. Zero agrument. This is a better win for Wilder than AJ beating a 41 year old Klitscko.

Ruiz Jr. has more talent and his skill levels are also higher. He is not a big puncher and he struggles to get into top condition. His commitment to forcing a higher work rate is his biggest fault. He handled Parker in Parkers back yard but his over all conditioning failed him. Andy has more skills but is not ready to commit to his craft. Andy at 217-220lbs beat all the current heavies. Ray

Ortiz is still a top 5 HW. Hard to see where PBC takes him though. They match up their non-Wilder HWs tough.

Of course he's better than those, Jesus.

Ortiz is no where near the fighter that people on here have made him out to be, but its wilders best win by some distance and he beats parker easily. Never thoght i would say it either but if Joshua is 18 stone Wilder takes that fight if Joshua is 17 stone (therabouts) then he wins

i didnt say he was better than povetkin, he might be or he might not be. but they are similar level and ability. come on, kid. this is boxing.. you know just like all of us do Ortiz has been ducked like the plague and its not for no reason. it because he is good, damn good. that said i dont Think any of the fighters you mentioned (besides povetkin) has beat anyone as good as Jennings, let alone beat them in as impressive fashion as Ortiz did. that win, the quality of opposition and his performance in the fight is more impressive than anything i have seen from those guys. and lets not forget.. yes, a fighter needs to prove himself against top notch opposition. but when there is a huge gap in ability between fighters you can see that no matter who they face. thats the case here. you could tell errol spence for instance was special long before he proved it. and you could tell phil lo greco wasnt long Before it was made official. they didnt need to fight eachother for me to know who was better. all that said, ortiz also proved himself last night in defeat. it was a tremendous performance even if he came up short. one none of those guys would be able to replicate.. i mean seriously.. you really see brezeale, pulev and Ruiz jr go 10 competitive rounds with wilder? or ko Jennings? sit down, son. Skills are subjective and I see skills differently to others. Winning and results are the most important factors to evaluate a boxer's quality. Jarrell Miller's wins over Gerald Washington and Mariusz Wach are wins that are as good as any win Luis Ortiz has. And Kubrat Pulev has wins over Ustinov, Dimitrenko and Dereck Chisora. You're only as good as what your prove in the ring with your results. Luis Ortiz isn't better than Jarrell Miller or Kubrat Pulev as far as I'm concerned and is only slightly better than Andy Ruiz Jr.

But the question is, what has Luis Ortiz done in his career to suggest he is any better than the boxers I've mentioned? The best opponents Luis Ortiz beat, really aren't any better than the best opponents some of those aforementioned boxers I've mentioned beat. And Alexander Povetkin has far greater amateur + pro accomplishments. What has Luis Ortiz done to suggest he is better than Povetkin? i didnt say he was better than povetkin, he might be or he might not be. but they are similar level and ability. come on, kid. this is boxing.. you know just like all of us do Ortiz has been ducked like the plague and its not for no reason. it because he is good, damn good. that said i dont Think any of the fighters you mentioned (besides povetkin) has beat anyone as good as Jennings, let alone beat them in as impressive fashion as Ortiz did. that win, the quality of opposition and his performance in the fight is more impressive than anything i have seen from those guys. and lets not forget.. yes, a fighter needs to prove himself against top notch opposition. but when there is a huge gap in ability between fighters you can see that no matter who they face. thats the case here. you could tell errol spence for instance was special long before he proved it. and you could tell phil lo greco wasnt long Before it was made official. they didnt need to fight eachother for me to know who was better. all that said, ortiz also proved himself last night in defeat. it was a tremendous performance even if he came up short. one none of those guys would be able to replicate.. i mean seriously.. you really see brezeale, pulev and Ruiz jr go 10 competitive rounds with wilder? or ko Jennings? sit down, son.

What has Luis Ortiz done to suggest he is better than Povetkin? One factor is that he's fought on US networks against US fighters so US audiences are far more familiar with him.

he is much smarter in the ring, much more skilled in just about every single way, more powerful.. in short, yes. none of those guys are even on the same level as luis Ortiz. Ortiz might still be the best HW in the world, he got caught against the biggest puncher on earth. **** happens.. but he was winning the fight and might very well beat wilder in a rematch, Joshua and parker too for that matter. in fact i would say he almost certainly destroys parker and Joshua would be 50/50 like this one was going in (from my perspective). fury is the only guy i would give a clear edge over him, not because he is necessarily better than the rest mentioned as much as his style. Ruiz jr, pulev, brezeale (lol) and whoever else OP mentioned all get knocked silly by Ortiz, quickly and damn near effortlessly. But the question is, what has Luis Ortiz done in his career to suggest he is any better than the boxers I've mentioned? The best opponents Luis Ortiz beat, really aren't any better than the best opponents some of those aforementioned boxers I've mentioned beat. And Alexander Povetkin has far greater amateur + pro accomplishments. What has Luis Ortiz done to suggest he is better than Povetkin?

he is much smarter in the ring, much more skilled in just about every single way, more powerful.. in short, yes. none of those guys are even on the same level as luis Ortiz. Ortiz might still be the best HW in the world, he got caught against the biggest puncher on earth. **** happens.. but he was winning the fight and might very well beat wilder in a rematch, Joshua and parker too for that matter. in fact i would say he almost certainly destroys parker and Joshua would be 50/50 like this one was going in (from my perspective). fury is the only guy i would give a clear edge over him, not because he is necessarily better than the rest mentioned as much as his style. Ruiz jr, pulev, brezeale (lol) and whoever else OP mentioned all get knocked silly by Ortiz, quickly and damn near effortlessly.

He did beat a few decently ranked guys a few years ago. But all this talk about him definitely being better than Parker etc is nonsense. That's true! Luis Ortiz's best 2 wins were against Bryant Jennings (coming off a loss to Wladimir Klitschko) and Tony Thompson coming off a loss too. Jarrell Miller's wins over Mariusz Wach and Gerald Washington are just as good. Kubrat Pulev's wins over Ustinov, Dimitrenko, Thompson and Chisora are also just as good. Nothing to suggest that Luis Ortiz is better than any of those guys I mentioned.

Ortiz knocked out Bryant Jennings . That win is as good as any of those guys.