He knocked a world class fighter 30lbs heavier down with a short right cross. and stopped him. That guy has never been down as a pro, let alone stopped.
That is frightening power.
now you're denying your post? you didn't use any logic to compare their punching power?
LMAO
not only are you stupid. you're spineless too.
I'm done. won't waste anymore of my time. go be stupid on your own.
Cheers.
Yes, I did compare their punching power. But what I didn't do was claim either of those guys have greater power than the other. Otherwise, I challenge you to go ahead and find me the part where I claimed one of those mentioned boxers has greater punching than the other.
It's you who stated
Both of those guys do not hit as hard as even Ortiz lmao.
it's logical to conclude Ortiz hits harder.
Thus, the onus is upon you to prove your claim. Since I didn't make any claim about boxer x being a more powerful puncher than boxer y or z.
I never used any 'logic' to prove any of those boxers have greater punching power than the other. That's what you erroneously think I did.
Retired grand father Wladimir Klitschko sparked and knocked out Kubrat Pulev more brutally than Deontay Wilder knocked out Luis Ortiz.
Deontay Wilder is still yet to show that he has greater punching power than Wladimir Klitschko as far as I'm concerned.
Against all common opponents (Jason Gavern and Eric Molina). It was Anthony Joshua who knocked out all of them quicker, with fewer punches than Deontay Wilder did.
Deontay Wilder's power is clearly overrated if anyone already thinks he has greater punching power than Wladimir Klitschko, Anthony Joshua or even David Haye and Alexander Povetkin.
now you're denying your post? you didn't use any logic to compare their punching power?
LMAO
not only are you stupid. you're spineless too.
I'm done. won't waste anymore of my time. go be stupid on your own.
Cheers.
We are going by logic of lowlights according to you.
Ortiz does not have anything on his resume as low as getting knocked out by LHW's and not being able to KO a Cruiser.
it's logical to conclude Ortiz hits harder.
It's also a direct comparison of Ortiz vs Klit. since Ortiz KOed Jennins and Klit couldn't.
By that metric, Ortiz > all the candidates you brought up by your own logic.
I never used any 'logic' to prove any of those boxers have greater punching power than the other. That's what you erroneously think I did.
Again, how does any of those things prove Luis Ortiz possesses greater punching power than Alexander Povetkin, David Haye or Wladimir Klitschko?
Just because David Haye failed to KO Tony Bellew in the first 6 rounds, how exactly would that prove Luis Ortiz is a more powerful puncher than David Haye?
Just because Povetkin failed to KO Marco Huck. How exactly would that prove Luis Ortiz is a more powerful puncher?
Perhaps consider taking some logic courses?
We are going by logic of lowlights according to you.
Ortiz does not have anything on his resume as low as getting knocked out by LHW's and not being able to KO a Cruiser.
it's logical to conclude Ortiz hits harder.
It's also a direct comparison of Ortiz vs Klit. since Ortiz KOed Jennins and Klit couldn't.
By that metric, Ortiz > all the candidates you brought up by your own logic.
clear as day. are you having mental lapses?
lol now you're making things up like a female would. oh david haye was injured from the sttart y'all.
post proof
Just because David Haye failed to KO Tony Bellew in the first 6 rounds, how exactly would that prove Luis Ortiz is a more powerful puncher than David Haye?
Just because Povetkin failed to KO Marco Huck. How exactly would that prove Luis Ortiz is a more powerful puncher?
Perhaps consider taking some logic courses?
No, he was injured from the start. His movement indicated this. His injury only became worse after the 6th round.
So because I don't believe Deontay Wilder is the most powerful puncher ever, that it therefore makes me an idiot?
Care to explain how you arrived at that bullet proof conclusion?
lol now you're making things up like a female would. oh david haye was injured from the sttart y'all.
post proof
David Haye injured himself in the 6th. he couldn't KD let alone KO a blown up LHW who spent most of his career at SMW
you're an idiot. end of discussion.
No, he was injured from the start. His movement indicated this. His injury only became worse after the 6th round.
So because I don't believe Deontay Wilder is the most powerful puncher ever, that it therefore makes me an idiot?
Care to explain how you arrived at that bullet proof conclusion?
Luis Ortiz couldn't KO Malik Scott. So what's your point? Povetkin still KO'ed higher ranked opponents more cleanly than Ortiz has.
David Haye was injured against Tony Bellew. How does that prove he lacks power?
And Luis Ortiz couldn't even stop Malik Scott.
So who is the real idiot here?
Alexander Povetkin has stopped / knocked out many more previously UN-KO'ed opponents than Luis Ortiz ever did.
Alexander Povetkin has also knocked out more opponents that were higher ranked more cleanly than Luis Ortiz has.
So how does one fight prove anything about who has greater punching power?
Alexander Povetkin put Johan Duhapas and Carlos Takam to sleep. Who has Luis Ortiz put to sleep like that?
David Haye injured himself in the 6th. he couldn't KD let alone KO a blown up LHW
Povetkin coulnd't KO Huck.
you set the bar, going by lowlights according to you. I'm using your logic to destroy your own argument lol
you're an idiot. end of discussion.
Haye and Povetkin couldn't stop cruisers like Huck and Bellew(LHW) LMAO
please go. you're an idiot.
David Haye was injured against Tony Bellew. How does that prove he lacks power?
And Luis Ortiz couldn't even stop Malik Scott.
So who is the real idiot here?
Alexander Povetkin has stopped / knocked out many more previously UN-KO'ed opponents than Luis Ortiz ever did.
Alexander Povetkin has also knocked out more opponents that were higher ranked more cleanly than Luis Ortiz has.
So how does one fight prove anything about who has greater punching power?
Alexander Povetkin put Johan Duhapas and Carlos Takam to sleep. Who has Luis Ortiz put to sleep like that?
I'm not claiming Povetkin hits harder than AJ. But that stoppage was clearly premature when AJ stopped Takam. AJ may have also knocked out Takam like Povetkin did if the referee hadn't stepped in. Who knows?
What has Luis Ortiz shown to suggest he hits harder than Povetkin, Haye or Wladimir Klitschko?
I'm not claiming either of those guys hit harder than the other. Rather, I'm claiming Wilder hasn't proven himself to be the more powerful puncher than Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin or David Haye.
Haye and Povetkin couldn't stop cruisers like Huck and Bellew(LHW) LMAO
and by your own logic, AJ couldn't stop Takam without a ref when Povetkin did and earlier throwing fewer punches.
So therefore Povetkin has more punching power than AJ.
please go. you're an idiot.
he was basically the same weight as when he fought jennings and thompson. was he poorly conditioned then?
Weight isn't the only thing that affects a boxer's conditioning. Especially at heavyweight boxing where being heavier doesn't always mean having worse conditioning.
Age and ring activity are bigger factors. Luis Ortiz was younger and more active when he fought Bryant Jennings.
Povetkin knocked out Takam without a doctor's stoppage therefore Povetkin hits harder than AJ. right?
Both of those guys do not hit as hard as even Ortiz lmao.
Ortiz blew out Jennings who Klitschko couldn't stop. So by your own logic, Ortiz hit harder than Klit.
I'm not claiming Povetkin hits harder than AJ. But that stoppage was clearly premature when AJ stopped Takam. AJ may have also knocked out Takam like Povetkin did if the referee hadn't stepped in. Who knows?
What has Luis Ortiz shown to suggest he hits harder than Povetkin, Haye or Wladimir Klitschko?
I'm not claiming either of those guys hit harder than the other. Rather, I'm claiming Wilder hasn't proven himself to be the more powerful puncher than Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin or David Haye.
Why the hate on Wilder? He KOd a very legit opponent tonight, and his right hand is a real threat to Joshua’s chin. Joshua struggled against Takam last time, so he’s not perfect either.
AJ vs DW will be a great fight for Heavyweight supremacy.
I'm not hating on anybody. I'm just calling it as it is. Wilder is getting overrated due to one performance in his 40th fight. Not too impressive because this is expected from a heavyweight title holder with 40 bouts.
Retired grand father Wladimir Klitschko sparked and knocked out Kubrat Pulev more brutally than Deontay Wilder knocked out Luis Ortiz.
Deontay Wilder is still yet to show that he has greater punching power than Wladimir Klitschko as far as I'm concerned.
Against all common opponents (Jason Gavern and Eric Molina). It was Anthony Joshua who knocked out all of them quicker, with fewer punches than Deontay Wilder did.
Deontay Wilder's power is clearly overrated if anyone already thinks he has greater punching power than Wladimir Klitschko, Anthony Joshua or even David Haye and Alexander Povetkin.
who the **** is pulev. did he fight any of the punchers memtioned?
Povetkin knocked out Takam without a ref's stoppage therefore Povetkin hits harder than AJ. right?
Povektkin couldn't even stop a cruiser Marco Huck LMAO. **** this is too easy.
Both of those guys do not hit as hard as even Ortiz lmao.
Ortiz blew out Jennings who Klitschko couldn't stop. So by your own logic, Ortiz hit harder than Klit.
AJ couldn’t spark Takam or retired grandfather Klitschko...
Retired grand father Wladimir Klitschko sparked and knocked out Kubrat Pulev more brutally than Deontay Wilder knocked out Luis Ortiz.
Deontay Wilder is still yet to show that he has greater punching power than Wladimir Klitschko as far as I'm concerned.
Against all common opponents (Jason Gavern and Eric Molina). It was Anthony Joshua who knocked out all of them quicker, with fewer punches than Deontay Wilder did.
Deontay Wilder's power is clearly overrated if anyone already thinks he has greater punching power than Wladimir Klitschko, Anthony Joshua or even David Haye and Alexander Povetkin.
Lmao he is very awkward to time, ortiz couldnt figure him out when he started wildin on him. Dont forget, when wilder goes ape it’s not just about launching a counter u have to avoid his punches first because he has power that u have to respect
Ortiz has great short quick counters but the biggest problem is not just the respect but when Wilder's wilding out.... his combos are faster than his opponent's counters most of the time LMAO
he's like a coiled up whip
Yes he does. but he has something even better than Hearns. His ape chit ambush with fists coming from every angle at lightening speed.
Not even someone with great fundamental defense like Ortiz can survive it.
Lmao he is very awkward to time, ortiz couldnt figure him out when he started wildin on him. Dont forget, when wilder goes ape it’s not just about launching a counter u have to avoid his punches first because he has power that u have to respect
He has that tommy hearns right hand. An assassin
Yes he does. but he has something even better than Hearns. His ape chit ambush with fists coming from every angle at lightening speed.
Not even someone with great fundamental defense like Ortiz can survive it.