I have been wondering what would happen if a young, fit, highly motivated Alexander Povetkin faced an aging version of Lennox Lewis that fought Vitali. Could Povetkin last 12 rounds with that version of Lennox?
Please vote and explain your choice.
Also, please keep in mind that we are talking about an older, slower, fatter version of Lennox Lewis. On the other hand, even that version of Lewis had more killer instinct than Wlad Klitschko, who, even in his prime, usually followed a jab with a brutal hug.
One of those two men was a consummate professional who was always in shape while the other did not take boxing nearly as seriously. I will let you decide which is which.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/WladimirKlitschko650.jpg
http://static.boxrec.com/f/f6/Corrie-Sanders-101.jpg
The number of fights is irrelevant. Look at Butterbean and his 91 boxing bouts.
So you are saying that Sanders had a very high level of skill, success and/or accomplishments in the sport of boxing? Please list his top 5 wins.
English is not my first language. Or a second. Or a third. Yet, I knew exactly what 'part-time' meant in English when I was still a teenager. Grow up.
That is a faulty argument for a number of reasons. First, most past heavyweight boxing champions were not as tall as Wlad. Second, they were not as heavy as Wlad. They also fought against boxers who were taller and heavier than them. Please remind us what happened the last time Wlad fought someone who was taller and heavier than him?
Despite what your imaginary girlfriend tells you, size does matter. Look at David Haye's fights at cruiserweight and compare them to his bouts with Valuev and Wlad.
You tried to defend Wlad's resume by claiming that past heavyweight champions faced cruiserweights throughout their careers as if it somehow makes up for the fact that Wlad's resume is filled with undersized boxers, no-hopers, and maintenance men.
Indeed, Wlad has avenged an extraordinary number of losses throughout his career - 1 out of 5. Amazing.
Nowhere in this thread have I said anything negative about Povetkin's resume or accomplishments, which is precisely why I called you out on listing Povetkin's accomplishments in your reply to my previous post.
How so? Are the poll choices not fair? Please explain yourself.
Because we are on a boxing forum? Because I wanted to know what people thought about this particular matchup?
This is where I stopped taking you seriously. I know, I know.
Shame on me for tolerating you for so long.
Claiming 'not taking boxing seriously' is your subjective opinion that has no specific meaning. Ergo, that statement is going to be dismissed.
And Corrie Sander's 'shape' generally speaking, and even against Wladimir Klitschko, was not much different, if at all compared to the 'shapes' of other past heavyweight champions like Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali.
This is Joe Frazier's physique in the 1970's:
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And this is Muhammad Ali's:
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So does that mean Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier were also 'part time' boxers like Corrie Sanders?
Wladimir Klitschko has far more credentials than Corrie Sanders, even outside of boxing. Thus, if any body is more of a 'part time' boxer, then it's Wladimir Klitschko.
Or, you have to admit that Wladimir Klitschko is such a GREAT polymath that he could do so many things almost equally well. To the point where he is a 'full timer' in multiple different fields AT THE SAME FKIN TIME.
If number of fights is irrelevant to determining how much of a 'part timer' a boxer is in boxing. Then what exactly is relevant? You still haven't clearly explained that part yet, despite constantly spouting PART TIME DOE PART TIME DOE again and again.
Let me provide my definition of what a FULL TIME boxer is: If any person is MOSTLY known and popular due to their boxing career, and has spent more of their time in boxing than with anything else. Then that person is a FULL TIME boxer, PERIOD!
That doesn't mean that person couldn't have other priorities outside of boxing. Nor does it mean if they are involved in other activities outside of boxing, that they become a 'part time' boxer as a result
What I am claiming is that Corrie Sanders is an extremely fast and a powerful southpaw, with a near 70% KO record, capable of knocking out nearly any heavyweight in the world and scoring an upset.
That's my point!
What Corrie Sanders does outside the ring, DOES NOT change the fact that inside the ring, he is an EXTREMELY awkward southpaw, capable of punching from EXTREMELY awkward angles with EXTREME speed and power and therefore capable of pulling off RARE upsets when least expected.
The word 'part time' has no more meaning than the word 'big'. I.E. Both those words are vague, relative and are meaningless in and of themselves.
240 pounds or 6 foot 3 is a SPECIFIC definition for the word 'BIG'.
Likewise, being involved for 19 years in boxing is a SPECIFIC definition of how much commitment that boxer has made to the sport of boxing.
Merely claiming 'PART TIME DOE' like an idiot is stating a meaningless word.
You're the one that needs to grow up! You don't need to learn any new languages. Rather, you meed to take some logic courses as you're void of sufficient logic.
Nearly every past heavyweight champion (excluding Mike Tyson) almost ALWAYS outweighed and out-sized their opponents. ESPECIALLY Muhammad Ali, who outweighed his opponents even more frequently than Wladimir Klitschko did.
Here are some STATS / FACTS:
- Wladimir Klitschko has beaten 24+ opponents who OUTWEIGHED him.
- Lennox Lewis only beat 10 opponents who OUTWEIGHED him.
- Muhammad Ali beat 17 opponents who OUTWEIGHED him.
- George Foreman only beat 8 opponents who OUTWEIGHED him.
THESE ARE FACTS and facts contradicts your lie / myth / erroneous statements and actually supports mine.
Furthermore, the heavyweight division is unlimited after 200 pounds. Thus, if a boxer weighs more than 200 pounds, then they are a heavyweight, period. Irrespective of how much more than 200 pounds they weigh.
Thus, David Haye and Jean Marc Mormeck are more credible opponents for Wladimir Klitschko than Henry Cooper was for Muhammad Ali (Cooper weighed 180 - 190 pounds, which isn't even a heavyweight but cruiser / light heavyweight by modern standard).
So because David Haye had a stylistic problem against Nikolai Valuev (who he still managed to beat). Are you therefore claiming he doesn't belong in the heavyweight division? If you are, that's an utterly ridiculous statement.
That's a bit like me saying Lennox Lewis doesn't belong in the heavyweight division because he struggled against Ray Mercer (another stylistic problem).
David Haye moved up to heavyweight, partly because he couldn't any longer make the cruiser weight limit any more. David Haye was draining himself for a long time artificially to make the cruiser weight limit, even though he could naturally make the heavyweight division relatively easily.
And David Haye at the time was nearly as successful at heavyweight as he was at cruiser weight. His only problem (along with the problem of others) was that the Klitschkos were too good. Remove the Klitschkos, and David Haye would've probably been as successful at heavyweight as he was at cruiser weight.
Outside the Klitschkos, David Haye at the time in his prime would've been favored to beat any other heavyweight in the world.
So it's totally ridiculous to claim David Haye didn't belong in the heavyweight division, only because he was 2nd best to the Klitschkos.
Yes, it is 'AMAZING' because no other heavyweight had more than 60 bouts and avenged as many losses as Wladimir Klitschko at REAL heavyweight. That alone is a better 'avenging' feat than any other heavyweight who had more than 60 bouts.
You simply can't even compare him to a guy who only had 40 or so bouts. It's a false equivalence logical fallacy!
There are many other ways you could've posted this thread / poll that would've been fairer.
Perhaps in the following ways:
1) Could Lennox Lewis survive 12 rounds against prime Alexander Povetkin (considering it's Lennox Lewis that has been knocked out brutally and it's his chin that has been cracked and not Alexander Povetkin's)?
Or
2) Prime Alexander Povetkin vs Lennox Lewis - who would win?
The second option is the fairest option to choose for creating this thread / poll. Don't you think?
How do you think he would win - UD or KO? I am not disagreeing with you, just curious.
IF he won it would probably have to be by KO. I think for the most part Lewis would outscore Povetkin keeping him at the end of his jab but it isn't hard to imagine that Povetkin would be able to eventually get through and find Lennox's chin with a quick combo.
Wladimir Klitschko is as much a 'part time' boxer as Corrie Sanders is.
One of those two men was a consummate professional who was always in shape while the other did not take boxing nearly as seriously. I will let you decide which is which.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/posts/WladimirKlitschko650.jpg
http://static.boxrec.com/f/f6/Corrie-Sanders-101.jpg
The real question is: how can a boxer with over 40 professional boxing bouts (the number of bouts both Wladimir Klitschko and Corrie Sanders have) at world level be considered a 'part time boxer'? Answer that one for me please!
The number of fights is irrelevant. Look at Butterbean and his 91 boxing bouts.
Furthermore, if a boxer shows a very high level of skill, success and / or accomplishments in the sport of boxing. Why does it matter what that boxer does outside the ring when judging / evaluating him as a boxer?
So you are saying that Sanders had a very high level of skill, success and/or accomplishments in the sport of boxing? Please list his top 5 wins.
What exactly is a 'part time boxer'? What exactly is a 'part time' anything? How do you even define that term?
English is not my first language. Or a second. Or a third. Yet, I knew exactly what 'part-time' meant in English when I was still a teenager. Grow up.
Mormeck was merely a stay busy fight for Wladimir Klitschko. Who was no smaller in size than someone like Zeljko Mavrovic was when he fought Lennox Lewis.
I could list many past heavyweight boxing champions who faced opponents that actually weighed far less than Mormeck or Haye, and even ones who weighed less than 200 pounds (not even a heavyweight by modern standard).
That is a faulty argument for a number of reasons. First, most past heavyweight boxing champions were not as tall as Wlad. Second, they were not as heavy as Wlad. They also fought against boxers who were taller and heavier than them. Please remind us what happened the last time Wlad fought someone who was taller and heavier than him?
And David Haye absolutely belonged in the heavyweight division. There is a reason why he moved up in the first place. Which was because he was unable to make the cruiser weight division any longer. Since he was draining his body to make the cruiser weight limit. David Haye is as much of a heavyweight as anybody else is / has been.
So please explain why David Haye didn't belong in the heavyweight division?
Despite what your imaginary girlfriend tells you, size does matter. Look at David Haye's fights at cruiserweight and compare them to his bouts with Valuev and Wlad.
Also, when did I claim Lennox Lewis facing some cruiser weights in his career makes Wlad's resume better?
You tried to defend Wlad's resume by claiming that past heavyweight champions faced cruiserweights throughout their careers as if it somehow makes up for the fact that Wlad's resume is filled with undersized boxers, no-hopers, and maintenance men.
Also, Wladimir Klitschko has had 69 bouts. Lennox Lewis only had 44 bouts. No other boxer has had as many bouts as Wladimir Klitschko at heavyweight boxing (over 60 bouts) with as many avenged losses as Wlad.
Indeed, Wlad has avenged an extraordinary number of losses throughout his career - 1 out of 5. Amazing.
It doesn't! It instead responds to the actual topic of this thread that you created. Which is a comparison between Alexander Povetkin and Lennox Lewis. Perhaps learn not to get sidetracked too much from your own thread that you yourself created?
Nowhere in this thread have I said anything negative about Povetkin's resume or accomplishments, which is precisely why I called you out on listing Povetkin's accomplishments in your reply to my previous post.
The way you've set up this poll and thread gives the indication that you're implying Povetkin is more likely to get KO'ed than not by a declining Lennox Lewis.
How so? Are the poll choices not fair? Please explain yourself.
Why would you even ask the question: Could a prime Povetkin go 12 rounds with Lennox Lewis?
Because we are on a boxing forum? Because I wanted to know what people thought about this particular matchup?
Who are Lewis's best opponents?
Evander Holyfield? The guy who was beaten more comprehensively by Sultan Ibragimov, Chris Byrd and James Toney?
Mike Tyson? The guy who was beaten more comprehensively by Danny Williams and Kevin McBride?
This is where I stopped taking you seriously. I know, I know.
Shame on me for tolerating you for so long.
if by prime you mean roided, then sure he might even win. Lewis wasn't as good at holding as Wlad.
How do you think he would win - UD or KO? I am not disagreeing with you, just curious.
Here, if you don't want to believe me that's fine, but here are the words of Pedvetkin's own trainer:
https://www.boxingscene.com/trainer-povetkin-not-same-fighter-ped-suspension--123789
According to veteran trainer Fiodor Lapin, Olympic gold medal winner Alexander Povetkin has lost some of his accuracy and punching power and is not in the same physical former that he was - prior to the suspension related to drug test failures.
"Until recently, I would have said that Povetkin was the favorite in potential fights against both Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. Povetkin would have been the favorite, but after those situations and the two fights that he had - that's another Povetkin. He used to get in earlier , and his opponents went down, but now they do not go down, so now he is not in the form that was before the suspension," Lapin said to Vasily Konov.
"It's clear that there was no fight to be fought , but Hammer's level can not even be compared closely with these fighters . Yes, Povetkin unquestionably won against Hammer, but he lost the force in his punches and lacked accuracy."
We know for a FACT Pedvetkin was on Meldonium, a cardio enhancer among other things. We know for a fact he tested positive for Ostarine vs Duhapas. We know for a fact that since getting busted for PED's he has 0 knock outs. He's better than when he fought Huck, but nowhere near top level anymore which is even believed by his own trainer.
Please stop posting this nonsensical propaganda. Or do so, but expect to be continuously debunked / refuted. There is no evidence whatsoever that Povetkin took Meldonium. Thus, that point is totally irrelevant in the first place. And there's also no evidence that Meldonium does anything to enhance the performance of an athlete, anymore than legal drugs like creatine or caffeine can. Especially the minute trace quantity that Povetkin had.
And Povetkin tested positive for 1 picogram of Ostarine. Do you realize how small that is? That's equivalent to comparing the size of a single ant, to the size of multiple Earths. That amount couldn't even enhance a fly, never mind a fully grown human being.
Go and find me any athlete that was ever banned or fined for testing positive for a single PICOGRAM of any drug. No instrument even exists today that can accurately measure such a small quantity of anything. It's usually in a range found between x amount of picogram to y amount of picogram. Even Canelo's drug test that was positive was tested to be in a range, because it wasn't accurate enough to pinpoint the exact picogram of Clenbuterol that existed in Canelo Alvarez's body. So we don't even know if the 1 picogram drug test was accurate.
As for no knockouts in his last 2 bouts. So what? He instead won a combined 24 rounds against 2 opponents that came to primarily survive. So why does he need to KO his opponents if he's able to win every round comfortably and win by decision?
Meanwhile, Povetkin's opponents before 2017 all came to win and that's why they got knocked out / stopped. Had Rudenko and Hammer came to win as well, they'd also have been knocked out in all probability too.
Before talking out your ass, go read some interviews or actually looking at his training.
With Ivan Kirpa, his new trainer the first thing they worked on was getting in proper cardio.
In one interview Ivan says the first thing he told Povetkin was... "Your skills are fine, but you are a bit fat and your stamina sucks."
Go look at his training now, Povetkins camps are posted on instagram and twitter.
Well put! That poster is full of double standards. Cherry picks rare instances to prove points about certain things and spreads propaganda based on limited knowledge / info. I doubt that poster is really interested in the truth. Most likely is just full of hate.
Here, if you don't want to believe me that's fine, but here are the words of Pedvetkin's own trainer:
https://www.boxingscene.com/trainer-povetkin-not-same-fighter-ped-suspension--123789
According to veteran trainer Fiodor Lapin, Olympic gold medal winner Alexander Povetkin has lost some of his accuracy and punching power and is not in the same physical former that he was - prior to the suspension related to drug test failures.
"Until recently, I would have said that Povetkin was the favorite in potential fights against both Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. Povetkin would have been the favorite, but after those situations and the two fights that he had - that's another Povetkin. He used to get in earlier , and his opponents went down, but now they do not go down, so now he is not in the form that was before the suspension," Lapin said to Vasily Konov.
"It's clear that there was no fight to be fought , but Hammer's level can not even be compared closely with these fighters . Yes, Povetkin unquestionably won against Hammer, but he lost the force in his punches and lacked accuracy."
We know for a FACT Pedvetkin was on Meldonium, a cardio enhancer among other things. We know for a fact he tested positive for Ostarine vs Duhapas. We know for a fact that since getting busted for PED's he has 0 knock outs. He's better than when he fought Huck, but nowhere near top level anymore which is even believed by his own trainer.
Before talking out your ass, go read some interviews or actually looking at his training.
With Ivan Kirpa, his new trainer the first thing they worked on was getting in proper cardio.
In one interview Ivan says the first thing he told Povetkin was... "Your skills are fine, but you are a bit fat and your stamina sucks."
Go look at his training now, Povetkins camps are posted on instagram and twitter.
Well put! That poster is full of double standards. Cherry picks rare instances to prove points about certain things and spreads propaganda based on limited knowledge / info. I doubt that poster is really interested in the truth. Most likely is just full of hate.
Like I said, I'm no scientist, I have no idea the techniques used to beat a drug test nor do you. Povetkin was prepared to beat a drug test, therefore he was doing something to minimize the amount in his body, it takes basic common sense to figure that out. The guy isn't going to take PED's and not try to hide it lmao. He tested positive for Meldonium and later Ostarine, those are facts.
Pedvetkin did not make his physical transformation until he was around 35 years old. Tyson, Lewis, Vitali, Holyfield all declined physically, nobody has made a physical transformation at HW like Pedvetkin did at his age, EVER, I dare you to find one in the history of boxing. Pro tip: you can't.
This was him at 229lbs vs Huck with a gut and excessive fat:
https://image.ibb.co/io7j8H/139768423.jpg
This is him as a 35 year old vs Charr at 225lbs, barely a 4lb difference and he's got abs. Pedvetkin dropped about 15lbs of pure fat while replacing that with lean muscle.
https://image.ibb.co/bYfMoH/povetkin_charr_5.jpg
From age 26-34 Povetkin had a 70% KO ratio without PED's.
From age 34-36 Pedvetkin had a 100% KO ratio on PED's.
Without PED's Povetkin's KO ratio is 0%.
The last time he tested positive was his last knockout.
Common sense dude.
Before talking out your ass, go read some interviews or actually looking at his training.
With Ivan Kirpa, his new trainer the first thing they worked on was getting in proper cardio.
In one interview Ivan says the first thing he told Povetkin was... "Your skills are fine, but you are a bit fat and your stamina sucks."
Go look at his training now, Povetkins camps are posted on instagram and twitter.
Really? It is very simple: if one is spending most of his time improving his golf skills, then he is not spending that time improving his boxing skills. Also, if you insist on calling Wlad a "part time golfer", then it is only fair to call Corrie Sanders a "part time boxer". A part time boxer that demolished Wlad.
Mormeck and Haye are both former cruiserweights and neither of them belonged in the heavyweight division. What is worse is that Haye is/was considered to be one of Wlad's best wins. Furthermore, the fact that Lennox Lewis faced some cruiserweights in his career does not magically make Wlad's resume better.
Why do you keep bringing up Lennox Lewis in defending Wlad's resume? Lewis avenged all his loses. Wlad did not. Lewis also faced better opposition than Wlad. Those are irrefutable facts.
How does that refute anything that I said about Wlad's resume?
Provide a link to where I said this.
First, that is your opinion and not a fact. Second, I do not see how it refutes anything that I have written.
Wladimir Klitschko is as much a 'part time' boxer as Corrie Sanders is.
The real question is: how can a boxer with over 40 professional boxing bouts (the number of bouts both Wladimir Klitschko and Corrie Sanders have) at world level be considered a 'part time boxer'? Answer that one for me please!
Furthermore, if a boxer shows a very high level of skill, success and / or accomplishments in the sport of boxing. Why does it matter what that boxer does outside the ring when judging / evaluating him as a boxer?
What exactly is a 'part time boxer'? What exactly is a 'part time' anything? How do you even define that term?
Mormeck was merely a stay busy fight for Wladimir Klitschko. Who was no smaller in size than someone like Zeljko Mavrovic was when he fought Lennox Lewis.
I could list many past heavyweight boxing champions who faced opponents that actually weighed far less than Mormeck or Haye, and even ones who weighed less than 200 pounds (not even a heavyweight by modern standard).
And David Haye absolutely belonged in the heavyweight division. There is a reason why he moved up in the first place. Which was because he was unable to make the cruiser weight division any longer. Since he was draining his body to make the cruiser weight limit. David Haye is as much of a heavyweight as anybody else is / has been.
So please explain why David Haye didn't belong in the heavyweight division?
Also, when did I claim Lennox Lewis facing some cruiser weights in his career makes Wlad's resume better?
Why am I bringing up Lennox Lewis? Because that's what this thread is about? You created this thread about Lennox Lewis whilst comparing him to one of Wlad's opponents (Alexander Povetkin). Hence, why I am bringing up Lennox Lewis.
Also, Wladimir Klitschko has had 69 bouts. Lennox Lewis only had 44 bouts. No other boxer has had as many bouts as Wladimir Klitschko at heavyweight boxing (over 60 bouts) with as many avenged losses as Wlad.
Lennox Lewis didn't have as many bouts for this to even be a valid comparison. I can assure you that if Lennox Lewis also had 69 bouts, he wouldn't be likely to avenge all his losses either.
Also, his early losses don't matter because none of those boxers who beat him were relevant later. They were fluke victories!
Lewis also faced better opposition than Wlad. Those are irrefutable facts.
Can you prove this? Otherwise, no, it isn't a fact but merely your own opinion.
How does that refute anything that I said about Wlad's resume?
It doesn't! It instead responds to the actual topic of this thread that you created. Which is a comparison between Alexander Povetkin and Lennox Lewis. Perhaps learn not to get sidetracked too much from your own thread that you yourself created?
The way you've set up this poll and thread gives the indication that you're implying Povetkin is more likely to get KO'ed than not by a declining Lennox Lewis. Despite the fact that Povetkin has never been KO'ed or stopped in his combat sport career spanning over 200 bouts whilst he is currently 38 years old. Let that sink in for a while!
Why would you even ask the question: Could a prime Povetkin go 12 rounds with Lennox Lewis?
When far lesser boxers than Povetkin have not only gone 12 rounds with PRIME Lennox Lewis, but also gave Lewis problems too?
Alexander Povetkin is FACTUALLY better than any of Lennox Lewis's best opponents. Based on the records.
Who are Lewis's best opponents?
Evander Holyfield? The guy who was beaten more comprehensively by Sultan Ibragimov, Chris Byrd and James Toney?
Mike Tyson? The guy who was beaten more comprehensively by Danny Williams and Kevin McBride?
Ray Mercer? The guy who was beaten more comprehensively by ancient, past his best Larry Holmes around age 40?
David Tua? The guy who was beaten just as convincingly by Chris Byrd?
Andrew Golota? The guy who was beaten by nearly everybody? From Mike Tyson to Michael Grant?
Meanwhile, Alexander Povetkin has only ever lost to Wladimir Klitschko and has never lost to anybody else like Lennox Lewis's best opponents have.
I mean come on! This really is no contest!
These are facts and Alexander Povetkin > any opponent Lennox Lewis beat.
So I am reading the responses in this thread so far and, for the most part, finding them reasonable. That is until I stumble upon this:
Wlad Klitschko is arguably the greatest heavyweight of all time? The man whose resume consists of part-time golfers, maintenance men, and undersized cruiserweights??
http://static.boxrec.com/c/c8/Box_g_sanders-klitschko01jr_576.jpg
This guy???
mm arguably the weakest h2h long term titlist.
Wladimir Klitschko is also a part time golfer. Wladimir Klitschko is also a part time scientist. Wladimir Klitshcko is also a part time humanitarian and a philanthropist. So why the fu3k does it matter what the part time activity of a boxer is?
Really? It is very simple: if one is spending most of his time improving his golf skills, then he is not spending that time improving his boxing skills. Also, if you insist on calling Wlad a "part time golfer", then it is only fair to call Corrie Sanders a "part time boxer". A part time boxer that demolished Wlad.
Wladimir Klitschko didn't face a single cruiser weight in his entire career (any boxer weighing below 200 pounds on fight night) out of 69 bouts. Lennox Lewis did! And so did every other heavyweight champion that came before Lennox Lewis.
Mormeck and Haye are both former cruiserweights and neither of them belonged in the heavyweight division. What is worse is that Haye is/was considered to be one of Wlad's best wins. Furthermore, the fact that Lennox Lewis faced some cruiserweights in his career does not magically make Wlad's resume better.
And you do realize that Lennox Lewis is the one who has been knocked out twice already, and brutally to add too? And to make things worse, he was knocked out by opponents smaller than him in size.
Why do you keep bringing up Lennox Lewis in defending Wlad's resume? Lewis avenged all his loses. Wlad did not. Lewis also faced better opposition than Wlad. Those are irrefutable facts.
Meanwhile, Alexander Povetkin in his amateur boxing + professional boxing + kickboxing career, spanning around 200 bouts has never been stopped ONCE, despite now being 38 years old. And Alexander Povetkin is much smaller in size compared to Lennox Lewis and has been regularly facing much larger sized opponents. Even from a young age, he's been facing fully grown men who have been much bigger in size than him.
Anyone who is objective, and isn't a hater with an agenda will find that accomplishment pretty commendable.
How does that refute anything that I said about Wlad's resume?
But according to you, Alexander Povetkin is the one who is very likely to get knocked out by Lennox Lewis. Based on what exactly? Lennox Lewis failed to KO multiple opponents far inferior to Alexander Povetkin. And he himself was knocked out twice. But Povetkin, a guy who has never been knocked out once in his career, despite being 38 years old with around 200 bouts is more likely to be knocked out than not?
Provide a link to where I said this.
Alexander Povetkin is a better boxer than anybody Lennox Lewis beat in his entire career!
First, that is your opinion and not a fact. Second, I do not see how it refutes anything that I have written.