Who is the Better Win / Opponent: Luis Ortiz or Joseph Parker?

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It's close but I gave to Parker. He is a good young champion with fast hands, good stamina,a solid chin and good power. Ortiz is good too but I think Parker is harder to beat than the 38 year old Ortiz who is a big puncher but slow.

Parker. He's the world champion and I would say has the better resume.

Andy Ruiz Jr his best win is a 46yr old Ray Austin who hasn't been relevant for a decade as for Hughie he's beaten nobody that ever was relevant. Malik Scott has a better resume than both lol

A level or 2 higher without 3 collective Ws better than Parkers wins over Ruiz Jr, Fury, or Takam. When Oscar had a Marquee billing for Ortiz to fight on HBO, he turned down a fight with Fedosov who had just won the Boxino tournament. Ortiz refused Fedosov. Jennings and KJ were GBPs preference. But after life changing paydays in their previous fights..... When Fedosov signed the contract for 105k, the date set, etc etc.. Ortiz refused outright. GBP ended up paying a dog catcher 105k just to save face with the commission. To appease HBO, Oscar paid Jennings 350k while losing money on the event. The WBA wanted Ortiz v Ustinov for an eliminator.... Instead, Ortiz wanted Scott, settled for 45 y/o Thompson. Anyone else see the pattern. Not an orthodox HW with a strong OH R, a good chin, and a thick enough body to work inside. This cheat hasn't fought a thick puncher in his career. Takam would KHTFO What makes Ruiz Jr and Hughie so good? People like to throw their names about and make out they're this and that but who have they beaten? They haven't one decent win between them. Has either beaten anybody even the top 50? Ones about 5ft6 and 120lb overweight the others a HW version of Paulie Malignaggi. Neither is as good as Jennings and Takam ain't either. Are the former really any better than Scott or an ancient Thompson? Takam wouldn't knock anyone out he struggled with a 60yr old Thompson now he's going to knock out Ortiz? lol

No he isn't. Neither is Ortiz, Miller, Browne, Whyte, Povetkin. This man is clean though yet people refuse to support him and mock him! http://b78b.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/Deontay-Wilder-121.jpg Lmao Windmill is the most juiced heavyweight on the planet :D If you don't agree you are stupid fanboy :D

No comparison, Ortiz is much more dangerous. Agreed. Parker is a good solid Heavyweight but the only reason he's a Top 5 Heavyweight is because the division is poor at the moment 1. Deontay Wilder. 2. Anthony Joshua 3. Alexander Povetkin 4. Luis Ortiz 5. Joseph Parker Parker has shown he's at the level with guys like Ruiz Jr, and Takam but he hasn't shown any thing extra to suggest he can be Number 1. Ortiz is still somewhat of an enigma, the skills and talent are definitely there but has to be tempered with the fact he's failed drug tests. I'm looking far more to Wilder vs Ortiz then i am to Parker vs Joshua. Wilder vs Ortiz is a very intriguing fight that either man can win. I just haven't seen any thing from Parker to suggest he has the beating of Joshua.

No comparison, Ortiz is much more dangerous.

Ortiz he's a level or two above Parker even if he is 74 and suffering from high blood pressure. A level or 2 higher without 3 collective Ws better than Parkers wins over Ruiz Jr, Fury, or Takam. When Oscar had a Marquee billing for Ortiz to fight on HBO, he turned down a fight with Fedosov who had just won the Boxino tournament. Ortiz refused Fedosov. Jennings and KJ were GBPs preference. But after life changing paydays in their previous fights..... When Fedosov signed the contract for 105k, the date set, etc etc.. Ortiz refused outright. GBP ended up paying a dog catcher 105k just to save face with the commission. To appease HBO, Oscar paid Jennings 350k while losing money on the event. The WBA wanted Ortiz v Ustinov for an eliminator.... Instead, Ortiz wanted Scott, settled for 45 y/o Thompson. Anyone else see the pattern. Not an orthodox HW with a strong OH R, a good chin, and a thick enough body to work inside. This cheat hasn't fought a thick puncher in his career. Takam would KHTFO

It's hard to support someone who is completely and utterly delusional about his achievements, and can't go a day without looking like an idiot. Wilder is Black Donald Trump?! Now things are starting to make sense.

I'm struggling with this one because I think both will be dismissed if they lose convingly. Having said that, I think Parker will come back if he loses - while Ortiz will probably retire? If you look at the resume Parker has fought a few tough individuals (even if none at elite level) while Ortiz hasn't really fought anyone of note. Interestingly both have looked poorer in there previous few fights with both being criticized against opposition who "ran" (fury/scott). I do think parkers opposition were tougher/harder though, and obviously he had a belt on the line. As an overall you have to therefore say Parker on balance is a tougher fight, and certainly has the characteristics of showing he is more durable. Time will tell of course.

No he isn't. Neither is Ortiz, Miller, Browne, Whyte, Povetkin. This man is clean though yet people refuse to support him and mock him! http://b78b.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/Deontay-Wilder-121.jpg People refuse to support him because he's done sweet f*ck all in 40 fights, and continually says stupid things. It's hard to support someone who is completely and utterly delusional about his achievements, and can't go a day without looking like an idiot.

No he isn't. Neither is Ortiz, Miller, Browne, Whyte, Povetkin. This man is clean though yet people refuse to support him and mock him! http://b78b.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/Deontay-Wilder-121.jpg What method do you use to determine which athlete is clean?

No he isn't. Neither is Ortiz, Miller, Browne, Whyte, Povetkin. This man is clean though yet people refuse to support him and mock him! http://b78b.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/Deontay-Wilder-121.jpg And what about Daniel "Double Ds" Dubois? Just as suspicious as Joshua ever was

At this point in Ortiz career they're about even

Ortiz he's a level or two above Parker even if he is 74 and suffering from high blood pressure.

Share the juicy gossip, legit haven't heard of this yet Have to word this carefully and can't reveal everything. His father is a notorious racist...allegedly. Jodie Marsh revealing Eddie's Bullying and Racism that was covered up and she was silenced by News UK. The whole fall out from Ricky Burns and his manager Alex Morrison and their racism yet was continued to be promoted by Matchroom Sports. The way he talks about Joshua as being like a Child or a Baby when Joshua is a 28 Year Old Man! Go to 24:40 of this interview and this is one of the many times Hearn has publicaly demeaned Joshua. Other far more shocking things that will come out soon hopefully

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=770026

Parker was the CLEAR winner in all three of those close fights. Just because a fighter has a couple close fights doesn't mean he could arguably have the Ls. Those fights weren't exactly Castillo Mayweather or Kovalev Ward, where the judges might have been able to get away with the robbery. They were much more like Bredis Usyk. Good competitive bouts with a CLEAR WINNER and NO ROBBERY. And while the roid cheating Cubano boasts a devastating KO1 over a seemingly durable Koyode, and a solid win over Jennings. He ducked Fedosov and Ustinov. Parker's wins over the 3 names is far greater than Ortiz entire body of work.

But Fury cool though right? No he isn't. Neither is Ortiz, Miller, Browne, Whyte, Povetkin. This man is clean though yet people refuse to support him and mock him! http://b78b.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/Deontay-Wilder-121.jpg