Granados only fought one top welter IMO and that was porter, i don't considerbroner a top welter and he lost that straight up and down.....
Granados showed me enough in the Porter and Broner losses that I have a hard time moving him below Ugas due to their fights with Imam. Triangle theory may not be the best way to predict who would win, but triangle theory certainly should enter into the thought process when ranking fighters IMO.
I see what your saying man.....those are solid points....but that was @140 where ugas was drained....since he has come back at welter he has been the man....i would favor ugas to beat both of them.......they are quality guys though......
I wouldn't bet my life on those fights and if you favor Ugas over them, I don't think that's a crazy position or anything. If the thread had asked for my top 15 welters, Ugas would have been on the list. I need to see a little more though before I'd put him in the top 10. Those two losses from 2014 make it tough for me to put him in the top 10 without a big win.
Ugas lost to Imam, Granados knocked Imam out. It's a better win than any win Ugas has had, and I've seen Granados in the ring with top welterweights and have seen him hang, only to come up just short. Based on what I've seen, politics aside, straight up with fair judges, I would favor Granados over Ugas.
Abdukakhorov is undefeated, beat some quality fighters in WBC silver championship fights, and I would favor him over Ugas as well.
Granados only fought one top welter IMO and that was porter, i don't considerbroner a top welter and he lost that straight up and down.....
Ugas lost to Imam, Granados knocked Imam out. It's a better win than any win Ugas has had, and I've seen Granados in the ring with top welterweights and have seen him hang, only to come up just short. Based on what I've seen, politics aside, straight up with fair judges, I would favor Granados over Ugas.
Abdukakhorov is undefeated, beat some quality fighters in WBC silver championship fights, and I would favor him over Ugas as well.
I see what your saying man.....those are solid points....but that was @140 where ugas was drained....since he has come back at welter he has been the man....i would favor ugas to beat both of them.......they are quality guys though......
LOL what have 9 and 10 done to put them over UGAS?
Ugas lost to Imam, Granados knocked Imam out. It's a better win than any win Ugas has had, and I've seen Granados in the ring with top welterweights and have seen him hang, only to come up just short. Based on what I've seen, politics aside, straight up with fair judges, I would favor Granados over Ugas.
Abdukakhorov is undefeated, beat some quality fighters in WBC silver championship fights, and I would favor him over Ugas as well.
1. Keith "Get-Back Year" Thurman
2. Errol "Nobody Wants My Belt" Spence
3. Danny "At The End Dada Day" Garcia
4. Shawn "I Used To Play Football" Porter
5. Jeff "Beat Pacquiao Doe" Horn
6. Terrence "Loma Aint No FOTY" Crawford
7. Manny "It's Still Up To My Promoter" Pacquiao
8. Jesse "Almost Beat Bradley" Vargas
9. Lucas "I Want Pacquiao" Matthysse
10. Lamont "Ask Danny Bout Me" Peterson
#1 - keith thurman
#2 - errol spence
#3 - shawn porter
#4 - danny garcia
#5 - manny pacquiao
#6 - lamont peterson
#7 - jeff horn
#8 - jessie vargas
#9 - kudratillo abdukakhorov
10 - adrian granados
LOL what have 9 and 10 done to put them over UGAS?
the rest of the list is on point......
Thurman - still champ with two belts and holds wins over Garcia and Porter
Spence
Crawford
PAC
Porter
Garcia
Brook and Kahn can fill 7 & 8
Horn
Vargas
I don't think brook is at welter anymore..........
1-Thurman - still champ with two belts and holds wins over Garcia and Porter
2-Spence
3-Crawford
4-PAC
5-Porter
6-Garcia
Brook and Kahn can fill 7 & 8
9-Horn
10-Vargas
Spence
crawford
thurman
Garcia
porter
horn
pacquiao
vargas
khan
matthysse
yep dope list.....i would replace khan with Ugas though....as he has not fought at welter weight in almost three years.......
Errol Spence and nine dudes who won't fight each other.
This here, top guys on the division won't fight each other's or even mention Spence's name. Kudos to Ugas for wanting to face the one the others won't even dare to.