Do you think Golovkin used steroids on his prime?

KO'ing cans doesn't mean you're on steroids. That was just good promotion, good match-making. Such a pity that the top5 mw didnt want to fight him.

I don't think so but I wouldn't be suprised either But I remember a couple years ago he always signed up for testing only a couple weeks away from his fights which I always thought was suspicious

KO'ing cans doesn't mean you're on steroids. That was just good promotion, good match-making.

I would be suprised if he never did cause i think just about all boxers at one time or another will go the juice even if it is thru a protein bar???

I've been very vocal about being disappointed by the fact that he looked different post VADA testing. It took me a while to accept it. But I already made a few threads on it. His body has changed from when he was 31 years old. Is it explained by age? or is it explained because he stopped roiding? Not to mention that he lost speed and power. I'm not really sure if he was using steroids. But his body DID change. He has more fat and less definition and muscle in some areas. Which can be explained by not using PEDs anymore, or age. What do you think? Was he on PEDs during these years? https://www.fightsaga.com/media/k2/items/cache/86d6466d8b891f45551a27bfe9d0cfa5_XL.jpg http://espn2news.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/gennady-golovkin.jpg Most likely. I think most boxers cheat though.

Well one thing's for sure, if he isn't using steroids against Canelo then he is gonna get lit up like a Christmas tree

**** no this is a terrible accusation

Ward is bigger than Jacobs and Alvarez. Kovalev is a known alcoholic, and has been downplayed by both JDJ and Abel Sanchez. Kovalev was sipping that Vodka while sparring Tripe Gee. Doug Fisher said a 20 year old Alvarez was leveling himself against Alvarez back in 2010, a Bummelo significantly smaller than Ward. You forgot Triple Gee was dropped by a bum - Hendrix who never even hit the scene. Ward would play with Golovkin as he did with Barrera. Golovkin too basic for Ward Ward needed crooked judges and a paid off ref to beat an alcoholic .. and you think he could beat Golovkin?

Who knows! His step up in class could be the reason why he didn’t look stellar.

Martinez is a midget next to Ward and Quillin’s skill is a D- compared to Ward. What would Ward get out of beating Golovkin? The Super Six opposition alone were tougher fights than “Lil’G” as he coined. Only guys like Brook were on Golovkin’s level. Brook is an ATG. If Ward needed to cheat and have crooked officials to beat Kovalev, how the hell would he beat a GGG, a guy who KO'd Kovalev in the gym with 18 oz gloves and head gear? There's a reason why Ward said he wasn't ready when HBO asked him about fighting GGG in 2013 .. his shoulder doe .. his tune-ups doe .. his promoter doe .. Translation: Quack, Quack, Quack.

thats exactly maxi's point, he said ggg doesnt look the same since he started doing vada, and is true, he hasnt been the same even at weighins, maxi thinks he isnt doing peds anymore therefore now you get a ggg with less muscle and more fat, even a bit slower... vada is when ggg started to age, for many... personally i think its lil more about his competition... My point is that if a boxer keeping the same physique into his 30s is a sign of PED abuse, and him not keeping the same physique is also a sign of PED abuse .. then what isn't a sign of PED abuse? GGG entered the WBC Clean Boxing Program just as his prime years were coming to an end and the big money fights, against the best opponents, were starting to open up for him. I think he should be commended for that. He could have swerved the Clean Boxing Program by snubbing the WBC belt, like Canelo did, then done a couple of steroid cycles while waiting for the fight date, but instead he played it with a straight bat, kept all his belts and is fighting his most dangerous opponent clean, for the second time. Again, I think he should be commended for that.

He didn't need peds. He fought a string of no hopers and fringe guys and belt holders from two weight classes below him.

Wonder when will people stop equating muscle definition to steroids. It's the not the same thing, it never was.

Anyone not doing 365/24/7 testing, if they're at that level, is probably doping. This. I want to see all fighters constantly hooked up to a dialysis machine that is testing their blood at all times, during training, sleeping, etc. The only time it's acceptable to remove the fighter from the machine is during the stare down at the start of the fight. Then and ONLY then, will we know for sure.

This is stupid, you can be 50 and have veins popping out all over depending on diet and training, and these athletes do take PED's in protein shakes and other supplements, guaranteed some of the things they are taking now will be banned within 5 years and new supplements that pass the tests will be produced.

How do you explain that one dude who used an IV he had more muscles at 40 than he did at 25- 30 years of age What are you even talking about? You're clearly talking about floyd which is a completely different situation, and I absolutely believe it's nearly impossible for a man in his mid to late 30s to get bigger and leaner naturally. I said all this in the thread about floyd

As you are the body stops producing as much testosterone and all those things you described will naturally happen. I don't think he was, but you never know How do you explain that one dude who used an IV he had more muscles at 40 than he did at 25- 30 years of age

He is my favorite boxer so I am not neutral but he has never tested positive so I will assume he never used peds. Some boxers are just naturally good and only need heart and hard training to succeed. If they aren't naturally good I a not convinced that any peds can make them good. I think the amount peds help a boxer fight better is badly overrated.

http://pimg.mycdn.me/getImage?disableStub=true&type=VIDEO_S_720&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvdp.mycdn.me%2FgetImage%3Fid%3D319547966825%26idx%3D30%26thumbType%3D47%26f%3D1%26i%3D1&signatureToken=dTAvceWZ5WUCqk0l7-5ygQ i dont know about GGG. maybe be a bit more specific. post some pics. but in Floyd's case its obvious that mofo was on that hulk juice. this is his 40 year old body three weeks before the McTapout fight. what evidence do I have? the same evidence Pacquiao's accusers have.. none. but if I had to make a bet I'll put my money on Floyd being juiced to the gills. this mofo looks like a mini Evander Holyfield.

steroids is a pretty broad term. i suspect virtually all top boxers and athletes of being on something. testing procedures are years behind performance enhancers. these guys on tv regularly and in championship fights make millions, and millions more for massive players like TV networks, casinos, and to a lesser degree but for a smaller group of beneficiaries, for promoters. so do i think golovkin was on the gas at some stage or even now? yeah, i can't prove anything but i suspect any multi million dollar athlete. what you're all discounting, and it's due to an agenda to discredit golovkin that you're doing it, is that golovkin has aged visibly since he debuted on HBO in '12. i mean FFS that was five years and 15 fights ago! this is not floyd mayweather, either! this is a guy who comes forward, blocks punches with his face at times like it's a boxing move, and who had 300 amateur fights and turned pro as a grown man.