calzaghe would beat prime jones

guys, stop arguing about this. I love both fighters, in his prime, no one could beat RJJ.

Calzaghe would light a prime RJJ up like a Christmas tree Joe would never have signed a contract to fight a prime version of Roy. You're talking about a guy who was happy to fight Mario Veit twice.

and roy jones got rocked by some bum and got knocked the **** out by tarver soon after he got caught on roids. Pretty much every great fighter has had a fight where theyve been dissapointing in, joe had about 1 or 2 off nights in 46 fights. Again, you can't refute my points. What a surprise. Once again, why have you sent a green K? Joe was relatively unknown outside of the U.K. until he beat Lacy in 2006. Regarding Tarver, Joe wouldn't go near Tarver. Apparently, it's because he didn't warrant a fight and he never rated him. It's funny how he was happy to fight the Evans Ashira's of the world though. If you think that Joe only had 1 or 2 off nights, then you're just highlighting the fact that you never saw his entire career.

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Y'all need to be reminded these KO's of Calzaghe :lol1::lol1: They musta forgot!!!!!

Calzaghe would light a prime RJJ up like a Christmas tree

and roy jones got rocked by some bum and got knocked the **** out by tarver soon after he got caught on roids. Pretty much every great fighter has had a fight where theyve been dissapointing in, joe had about 1 or 2 off nights in 46 fights. Which nights were those lol?

it was missing vs landing. dont give calzaghe undeserved credit Correct. Joe concentrated more on volume than on accuracy. I debated a guy a few weeks ago and he tried to tell me that Joe easily beat Bernard, and he tried to use the punch stats from Compubox as a form of evidence. Obviously I laughed at him.

Yes. It was quantity vs quality. it was missing vs landing. dont give calzaghe undeserved credit

Never. These nationalist Calzaghe fans try to falsify his greatness and achievements every chance they get. The only guy who got knocked down and rocked in the Hopkins vs. Calzaghe fight was Joe. Yes. It was quantity vs quality.

Calzaghe beat up "old" Hopkins...but people forget that "old" Hopkins was a p4p fighter and one of the best in the sport. Bernard beat up Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight and then beat up on Pavlik after he lost to joe. Why are fans always dismissive of Calzaghe's wins? "Wins?" :lol1: You understand Hopkins vs. Calzaghe is the most debated outcome in modern boxing history?? I had Hopkins winning as did Iole (Yahoo), Rafael (ESPN), the Associated Press and many, many others.

calzaghe didn't land more than a couple clean punches the entire fight thats why. it was pathetic. that old man boxed circles around him, dropped him, nearly dropped him a second time(judges somehow gave that round to calzaghe still) and led him into punches over and over. calzaghe "beat" hopkins cause he tried really hard but failed. The facts. ^^^^^

When did Joe beat up Hopkins? Never. These nationalist Calzaghe fans try to falsify his greatness and achievements every chance they get. The only guy who got knocked down and rocked in the Hopkins vs. Calzaghe fight was Joe.

Calzaghe beat up "old" Hopkins...but people forget that "old" Hopkins was a p4p fighter and one of the best in the sport. Bernard beat up Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight and then beat up on Pavlik after he lost to joe. Why are fans always dismissive of Calzaghe's wins? calzaghe didn't land more than a couple clean punches the entire fight thats why. it was pathetic. that old man boxed circles around him, dropped him, nearly dropped him a second time(judges somehow gave that round to calzaghe still) and led him into punches over and over. calzaghe "beat" hopkins cause he tried really hard but failed. that was politics and nothing more. the first 8 rounds especially were so cringeworthy watching calzaghe flail and miss over and over. he didnt clearly win any of those rounds

Calzaghe beat up "old" Hopkins...but people forget that "old" Hopkins was a p4p fighter and one of the best in the sport. Bernard beat up Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight and then beat up on Pavlik after he lost to joe. Why are fans always dismissive of Calzaghe's wins? When did Joe beat up Hopkins?

superb comment. green k sent You are absolutely clueless. Green K sent? Ha! "I don't think he could have been beaten" Yeah, that's why he scraped by Robin Reid and he was dropped by Byron Mitchell and Kabary Salem. "The Yanks didn't want to know" Maybe, just maybe, it had something to do with the fact that Joe was relatively unknown outside of Europe, where he defended a lightly regarded WBO title which nobody respected.

Believe it or not, what most people know as Joe Calzaghe at the top was actually Joe Calzaghe past his best. Maybe at 75% for Jeff Lacy, 70% for Mikkel Kessler and maybe 50% for Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. A prime Joe Calzaghe was an absolute beast. I don't think he'd have ever lost to anybody. At that time British boxing wasn't very glamorous and the Yanks didn't want to know. Nor did Glen Johnson. There wasn't big money to be made in the UK and Calzaghe would have derailed any hyped up Yank's momentum. :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: Yeah. That "beast" LOST to Robin Reid. Joe couldn't get out of the way of Reid's right hand to save his life. "Beast" my ass..

youre a well renowned calzaghe hater. joe was lightening quick himself, its funny how age is allowed to affect roy but not joe. he'd slowed down by the time he fought roy hopkins and kessler yet he still whooped on them lol Is that all you could muster as a reply? I'm a hater? Is that it? You simply don't possess the required amount of knowledge to debate me on this subject. You cannot refute my points. No, Joe hadn't slowed down by the time he fought Roy. He was renowned for his fitness and his punch output. His style was completely different to Roy's. If you look back at Joe's fights against Sheika and Woodhall etc, it's the same fighter who fought the likes of Kessler. He had the exact same attributes. If you looked back and Roy's fights against the likes of Hill and Griffin, you'd see straight away that they were completely different to the versions who fought Tito and Joe. They looked like completely different fighters. Like cheap imitations.

I watched Joe Calzaghe's career unfold from the beginning. Not like yourself who bases opinions on forum posts and online blogs. When Joe retired there was a feeling he could have achieved more. And that's because he was that good. A Unified champion, a Lineal champion in two divisions, and people feel he could have acheived even more. Haters can hate, but Joe Calzaghe is an ATG. You don't know anything about me. I'm English and I watched Joe's career unfold in it's entirety. He was a great fighter. And I was a fan of his, until I got tired of him trying to fool the public by playing his 'I'm a victim of circumstances' card. Yes, of course he could have achieved more. But he didn't, because he was content to defend his lightly regarded WBO belt for 10 years. He made 21 defences of that title, and only 7 of those were mandatories. Go and look who he fought. He wasn't overly ambitious. You saying that you don't think he could have been beaten just highlights your lack of knowledge. Yes, of course the big names U.S. fighters weren't interested in him back in the late 90's-early 00's. And why would they have been? He was relatively unknown outside of Europe.

Calzaghe beat up "old" Hopkins...but people forget that "old" Hopkins was a p4p fighter and one of the best in the sport. Bernard beat up Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight and then beat up on Pavlik after he lost to joe. Why are fans always dismissive of Calzaghe's wins?