Thurman and Crawfords movement give them a great chance to beat Spence

So he was dominating until he got knocked down? Was it a lucky punch that knocked him down or was it an accumulation of what was going on the previous rounds? Can't you read properly? or maybe English isn't your first language... I said it was a close fight for 6 or 7 rounds, go watch it again. The scorecards at that point reflect that too. Brook arguably edged the first half of the fight. Nobody was dominating the first half of the fight but the weight issues took it's toll for Brook in the second half and Spence's work made it worse for Brook. Spence fought a great fight v a drained Brook that was coming off a beating but he did what he had to do, not many fighters would have beaten Brook even under those circumstances.

Spence was up when the fight as stopped, right? I think so, but he did score a knockdowns towards the end. The first 6-7 rounds were very close, Brook probably edged the first half of the fight and was looking good at times. I do believe the weight issue caught up with Brook in the second half of the fight, but that's also because Spence made it count too. I personally believe is Brook stayed at 147 and never took that GGG beating, that Brook v Spence fight would have been very close... but that's just speculation. I think Brook was the real deal at 147 and Spence too, but Brook shortened his WW career and maybe his career in general by taking that Golovkin fight. I don't think we got to see the best version of Brook in that fight, but also i think Spence is still improving too, so it probably wasn't the best Spence either.

Yes he was. Either these ppl can't math or they're making sh*t up. How the hell do you win 6-7 rds but you're down on the cards in the 11th? Brook started fast. Spence adjusted and proceeded to beat Brook into submission. That was dominant. Dominant to them is a guy makig fighters quit who are one & two weight classes below. :lol1:.............

Exactly. People have made out like it was a one sided beating. Brook was probably up after 6-7 rounds. I believe the eye injury and coming down from 160 to 147 and from a beating caught up with him after that. Taking nothing away from Spence, i still think Brook would have beaten nearly every other WW that night but people shouldn't make out it's something it's not. Anyway, Brook is a quality fighter. I saw 2 very very good fighters in the ring that night. Spence was up when the fight as stopped, right?

Lol at some people. You don't cut off the ring like Errol does and have bad footwork! Watch the Peterson fight again and check out his foot movement in the late rounds. There was no need to use it but he was very fluid and you can tell he has to the skill to do it if needed. Just hasn't needed too.

Spence has advantages over those guys. He is bigger puncher, he's faster, and throws better combinations. Spence outboxed people when he was an amateur. He was the top guy in the USA for years. Nobody really came close to beating him. Last time he lost in the USA scene, I believe, was in 2010 and that was via split decision. Only one guy made Spence look "normal." And that guy just happened to be one of the best amateurs of recent years. Amateurs don't tell the whole for the pro game, but it does give you a measuring stick. I suspect Spence may end up being dominant as a pro as well, at 147. Maybe even 154. Spence is going to break down Thurman. Crawford will present more trouble.

He's always in a position to punch because he never crosses his feet and he evades punches with his arms hands and elbows. He needs to tighten up his defense more but for someone as offensively orientated as he is, he doesn't get hit too much. I was about to post the same thing. He keeps himself always in position to fire back. good post. Brook was beating Spence until he suffered eye socket problems... again Golovkin exposed Brooks physical problems already. I think people are being flat out dishonest when they disregard the above... GGG exposed a size advantage. Spence broke Brook's other eye.

Thurman, no. Spence will walk him down. That Thurman movement is just jogging outside the range. Crawford doesn't have the power...but, Crawford will be interesting.

It was even till the midway point and then Spence took over and beat him up. Spence is a pressure fighter/puncher, nit surprising to see him outboxed early. The problem is going to be putting enough hurt on him to slow him down, and stopping him from getting to your body early. The second half of the fight is Spence's time to shine. It was vs Brook and I think tbe same will be true for Crawford and Thurman too. Spence is a hell of a fighter. Crawford will be too small at 147 for a big and aggressive and skilled WW like Spence. He is absolute class, but maybe a division too far for a fight like this. Maybe he can pull something out the bag, he has the best chance imo. Thurman doenst have the skill to fight at mid and close range, and his movement is inefficient. He has power but is it 'one time' power at the top level? Im not sure. Is see him winning rounds early but taking too many solid body shots before getting beat up late. I think Spence will prove to be king of this division if the fights are made. Thurman has enough power to keep Spence on the defensive. Plus Thurman has the best defense at 147. Thurman is good at fighting mid range but hasn't shown great ability at fighting close

Sure but he already overcame Brook who is probably stronger than both....maybe less punching power but better mid range skill and tougher(not more durable since his eyes seem to fall apart, but he doesn't really shy away from punches when he's getting caught...) Thurman is tailor-made for Spence.....he gets destroyed to the body....and I like Thurman. Crawford is sharper with his defence and especially his footwork, but his head is sometimes up in the air and how he carries his power is still a question and how he handles power from real punchers.....he definitely matches up better though...fascinating fight. You forget to mention that Thurmam has better power, speed, and defense compared to Crawford

I see a lot of people overrating Crawford but underrating Keith. Crawford doesn't have the size nor strength that Thurman has. Thurman would have a better chance than Crawford due to size and speed. 50/50 between Keith and Spence 60/40 favoring Spence against Crawford.

Also this notion that Brook got demolished or dominated is far from the truth. Brook was not only doing great in the first half but he was flat out outclassing Spence at times. Did Spence break him down eventually? Yeah he did but not after damn near getting outclassed for the whole first half of the fight. Exactly. People have made out like it was a one sided beating. Brook was probably up after 6-7 rounds. I believe the eye injury and coming down from 160 to 147 and from a beating caught up with him after that. Taking nothing away from Spence, i still think Brook would have beaten nearly every other WW that night but people shouldn't make out it's something it's not. Anyway, Brook is a quality fighter. I saw 2 very very good fighters in the ring that night.

I would put my money in both Thurman and Crawford against Spence at this point. But I do love Spence too, he makes a great likable fight to watch.

As a day one Thurman fan I'd by lying if I said I weren't worried about The Truth. I think Thurman goes into that fight as an underdog for the first time in his career, but you boys still know I'm rolling with! These are the kinds of wins people remember you for, beat Spence and we're talking P4P #1 status baby. And vice-versa for Spence.

ive posted this for a while now- thurman will get stopped by spence spence clearly the better fighter

Brook was beating Spence until he suffered eye socket problems... again Golovkin exposed Brooks physical problems already. I think people are being flat out dishonest when they disregard the above... He suffered 'eye socket problems' because Spence was punching him in the face. It wasn't as if something in the air broke his eye socket. Brook doesn't have physical problems, he was in his prime and Spence was simply the better man on the night.

If you think Spence has bad footwork then you dksab. Sorry but that is the truth. Like when people say Joe Louis had bad footwork.

Brook was beating Spence until he suffered eye socket problems... again Golovkin exposed Brooks physical problems already. I think people are being flat out dishonest when they disregard the above... It was even till the midway point and then Spence took over and beat him up. Spence is a pressure fighter/puncher, nit surprising to see him outboxed early. The problem is going to be putting enough hurt on him to slow him down, and stopping him from getting to your body early. The second half of the fight is Spence's time to shine. It was vs Brook and I think tbe same will be true for Crawford and Thurman too. Spence is a hell of a fighter. Crawford will be too small at 147 for a big and aggressive and skilled WW like Spence. He is absolute class, but maybe a division too far for a fight like this. Maybe he can pull something out the bag, he has the best chance imo. Thurman doenst have the skill to fight at mid and close range, and his movement is inefficient. He has power but is it 'one time' power at the top level? Im not sure. Is see him winning rounds early but taking too many solid body shots before getting beat up late. I think Spence will prove to be king of this division if the fights are made.

I think Spence's footwork is very good. He seems to almost always be in a good position to land his punches and that's what good footwork does for you. Bundu said he was a better boxer than Thurman. Thurman and Crawford have their own flaws and Spence will exploit their flaws and knock them out in my opinion if they ever share a ring with him. Brook won a couple of early rounds but once Spence got warmed up he dominated Brook. Spence rarely loses rounds on his way to knockout wins. He's always in a position to punch because he never crosses his feet and he evades punches with his arms hands and elbows. He needs to tighten up his defense more but for someone as offensively orientated as he is, he doesn't get hit too much.

What I meant was in fear factor but i didnt specify it. Ok i see the comparison now. Fair enough! BTW Crawford got wobbled not dropped vs Gamboa.