So what's tank excuse for not facing Loma?

Damn guys what about win mayweather fought genero hernandez...he had less fights than tank, what about chico corrales.......come on guys....this is pathtic

If Tank and Floyd don't feel he is ready for Loma yet well I guess that is his right. It is a fans right if they want to hold that against him. It is a bad look that may follow him around for a while. What bugs me is Floyd seems to have this huge long career outlined for Tank. The truth of the matter is Tank's style of fighting is not the type suited for longevity. To me Davis is the kind of fighter you want to move fast and keep busy. Keep him dedicated and in shape. I recently saw a pic of him with a gut. That does not spell longevity.

Guess you miss People trying to discredit Floyds win over Canelo if loma fought davis at 128 when davis had already been struggling massively to make weight and they were both champs at 130 i'm sure he would be rightfully criticized for it. floyd fans obviously would have to shut up about it because they would be hypocrites if they said anything oh wait no they dont know or care about hypocrisy

Kovalev looked much, much bigger than Ward. He's a cruiserweight disguised as a light heavyweight, and I like Kovalev. Same with GGG. He looked a lot bigger than Canelo in the ring. The guy was born a middleweight and never moved up one pound in his whole career! Canelo started at 140 and that was his first fight at full middleweight (160). If you couldn't see the size differences, I don't know what to tell you. You can make a poll. How many fights had Crawford had at welterweight (147)? Loma can still catch him before that happens! canelo dropped from 164 to fight golovkin at 160. canelo was definitely bigger. thats why he failed to disclose his fight night weight. if ggg was born a middleweight i feel bad for his mom. he didn't move up cause he turned pro at age 24. canelo at age 15. if you know about human beings they are fully grown at age 24, not age 15. are you an alien? canelo was like 15 when he was fighting at 140. golovkin was 18 when he was fighting at 140 he just wasnt pro so im not sure how you can use the when he started argument. he started when he was 15....not really a full grown man yet. by 20 he was at 154 and a couple years after that struggling mightily to make weight. so yes if you are comparing a 15 year old canelo to a 35 year old golovkin yes that golovkin is bigger but this golovkin vs this canelo there was no notable size difference. canelo had just fought at 164 and ggg never above 160 so judging by your own weight argument canelo is the bigger man if pac fights loma next is loma the bigger man cause he started at 126 and pac at 108?

The thing is, he's not waiting. He doesn't actually care at all. He's steering his career the way he sees fit. He's not obligated to fight Loma. Well if you wanna put it that way...nobody is technically obligated to fight anybody. Ever.

he's scared of what Loma would do to his career. just what I said weeks ago. The more they say he isn't scared, the louder I lаugh.

I thought my sarcasm was apparent. I wasn't bringing race into it. Kovalev isn't bigger than Ward - they are both legit LHW's. Probably within 3-5 pounds of each other on fight night. GGG's fight against Brook was kinda weak, but still, on fight night,I wouldn't be surprised to find out they were within 5 pounds of each other. Canelo and GGG are the same size. What abut Jacobs skipping weigh-in and blowing up to 180 plus? Forgot that one, eh? I don't see any pattern. The public demanded Rigo vs Loma, and Lomajust moved up from 126. Isn't Crawford at WW now?? Loma just came up to 130, give it time - I'm sure if the public demands the fight, it will happen. Kovalev looked much, much bigger than Ward. He's a cruiserweight disguised as a light heavyweight, and I like Kovalev. Same with GGG. He looked a lot bigger than Canelo in the ring. The guy was born a middleweight and never moved up one pound in his whole career! Canelo started at 140 and that was his first fight at full middleweight (160). If you couldn't see the size differences, I don't know what to tell you. You can make a poll. How many fights had Crawford had at welterweight (147)? Loma can still catch him before that happens!

Obviously he doesnt have the same fire, he is already missing weight and catching stupid cases..Discipline is a real talent missing in a lot of these fighters these days Agreed, that's a solid point man.......

Guess you miss People trying to discredit Floyds win over Canelo Was he criticised by the general public tho? I dont think so, only by his haters but they criticice everything he does

Who has been criticized for fighting a young, undefeated, talented guy, who is a former world champ and recognized as top 3 in the division?... i'd like to know Guess you miss People trying to discredit Floyds win over Canelo

Fight wont happen untill 2-3 yrs from now. When Loma slows up and Tank is more experienced. They (TMT) know Loma wrecks him right about now.

Hmm. See this is exactly what I mean, man. Here you are saying that Canelo was too green for Floyd, and mocking him for it. You also try to justify Canelo being too green......BY POINTING TO HIS AMATEUR RECORD! Look at the above question, and how you justified it below!!!! Canelo's amateur record was 44-2. Mayweather's amateur record was 84-8 Professonal Bouts: Canelo 43(42-0-1) Mayweather 44 (44-0) Canelo was 23 and he stepped up to fight. Had only 1 less professional fight than Mayweather and 46 less amateur bouts. You are saying he was too green. Tank is 23, has 7 more professional fights but against far less quality opponents, and 176 less amateur bouts, and you are saying he has enough experience. Since their professional bout experience are quite even for Mayweather and Canelo at that time, and you seemingly refuse to consider the quality of professional opponents in the convo about Davis/Loma, that means you give a whole lot of weight to Davis simply having 7 more professional fights. But you justified Canelo being green by pointing out his lesser amateur experience. Canelo was also a champion. You said no excuses for Davis because he was a champion. Also you point out that Canelo's biggest win was Trout. Who was Davis' biggest win? Who was Loma's biggest win? Doesn't this seem warped to you? You can make the argument that at least Canelo fought, but would you have said Canelo was ducking Floyd if they hadn't fought, knowing that you are on record saying Canelo was green due at least to some extent to his lesser amateur experience? Why was Canelo green, but Davis is not? And how does this allow you to give any credit to Loma if he got this fight and defeated Tank? Earlier in your argument you say that amateur fights matter. Loma has twice as many as Davis, so he holds a distinct advantage. Yet, you don't think this applies to Floyd/Canelo. Floyd had at least twice as many amateur fights as Canelo. No one knows for certain his amateur record. Some say about 20 fights while others say 40+. Regardless, his best win prior to Mayweather was Trout. That's a big step up to go from Trout to Floyd, especially at a catch weight. Loma isn't asking for catch weights. He has less pro fights than Davis, and Davis has already spewed out some very weak excuses. None of which acknowledge that Loma is just too good of a fighter for him. They all circle around trivial nonsense like he's not a draw or he needs to rematch Salido. Those are lame ass excuses man.

It's simple: Davis is a coward with no balls. Isn't that what people wanna hear? Pretty much. OP, playing dumb like he doesn't know what the situation is, but he's already exposed himself in his replies.

Sure, it can be labeled a duck, but what I'm asking is, is the reason justifiable? None of those guys have the pedigree of Loma, bro. Are you being serious? But that isn't what Davis is saying. He isn't saying Loma is a great fighter who is just too much for him right now. What he is saying is that he is looking for a fight with someone who draws better. Those were his exact words. “I believe that Lomachenko will happen eventually,” Davis said. “It’s just at a right time. I believe that Lomachenko, not to say nothing bad about a fighter, but Lomachenko’s still fighting at MGM, that hold 3,400 . “You know, we’re looking to fight people that’s bringing a lot more than 3,400." So first it was age, then it was "he needs to rematch Salido first" now it's attendance numbers. And the never ending excuses will continue, mark my words. Davis will avoid Loma at all costs, regardless if Loma fills venues of 12K or more, Davis will find another excuse not to fight him. Davis' candle will burn out soon enough. He can only pad his record with B-rate opposition for so long until it all comes crashing down, just like Broner.

Tank would Take the fight hell off pride alone. But Floyd outside looking in, he wouldn't dare let Loma ruin him right now. Everybody ain't Gary Russell

I have never seen the boxing community obsess over a B level fighter the way have Davis. There are bigger payer fights for Loma, there are better fights to enhance his enhance his legacy, Davis is not even in his prime or a world champion. If Davis wasn't Floyd's protege no one would even be talking about this fight. But there are a lot of retards out there that think beating Davis is the equivalent of beating Floyd by proxy. I'm not even a Davis fan after he missed weight and embarrassed himself on the McGoober undercard.

And you are conveniently leaving out some things. Jack Dempsey would have been 21 during this proposed fight. Langford would have been 33. That's a 33 year old with 169 professional fights. Against a 21 year old. But don't think that Dempsey didn't have more experience than you may know about: And the only reason I ever seen him giving for not wanting fo fight the aging Lanford is that he was afraid of him. Just say whether you think Tank is too green for Loma or not. I don't see how you make the argument that he isn't. Because he had 7 more professional fights against guys with terrible records? That's what I'm not getting here. Again, Tank has plenty of experience to fight Loma. Davis' last opponent only had 64 amateur fights, so I guess you would be ok with Fonseca ducking Davis because he was far less experienced? If we take amateur fights into account, then most fights aren't going to be made because pros rarely have amateur resumes that align perfectly. Bottom line, Davis is ducking Loma. He didn't think Liam Smith or Pedraza were "too old" for him, but Loma is. Can't have it both ways.

^Good discussions, guys. Informative history and cool headed! Thanks.

What's different about ducking someone because you aren't yet experienced enough? That's the point? Then why do you allow Dempsey the excuse. You can't just keep throwing out "different era" to explain all of this away. Keep it real. THERE IS NO DAMN DIFFERENCE FROM SAYING DEMPSEY WAS NOT YET EXPERIENCED ENOUGH FOR LANFORD AND DAVIS IS NOT YET EXPERIENCE ENOUGH FOR LOMACHENKO. How can the difference in era explain that away???? You conveniently ignored my points once again. I provided you with examples of other fighters in similar situations who didn't hide behind the age excuse. But you insist on making excuses for Davis just because he is promoted by your hero. Dempsey had about 15 fights at the time, Langford over 100. That is a tremendous gap that isn't even comparable to Loma/Davis. To that end, both Dempsey and Langford had a tremendous amount of respect for one another and each of them professed that the other was the greatest they had ever seen. Sam Langford, when asked how Harry Wills (whom he fought 18 times in his career) would do against Jack Dempsey, said in the June 5, 1922, Atlanta Constitution "Well if he ever fights Dempsey my money will be on the present champion. Dempsey is the greatest fighter I have ever seen. He hits twice as hard as Jim Jeffries and is as fast in the ring as James J. Corbett."

The same thing can be said when it comes to Crawford vs PBC fighters. and i've repeatedly said the same thing about crawford.