Fantasy match ups : Loma is undefeated; REALITY : Loma lost to a SALIDOE

Sounds like Conor Mcgreggor. Right. He´s LomaMcGregenko©. Zero experience before Salido. Smh. LomaMcgregor© 37 year old inactive midget (who ironically has less ring experience) Rigo is Lomas best win. Despite such a great accomplishment, Loma still lost to a bum. You should add this to Loma wiki page under the loss column. Also submit it to boxing rec. Yet Floyd dominated top tier competition for 20 years. No credit. Loma only has to dominate over a 5 fight span and he is an ATG capable of beating 130lb FLOYD. yep. You are the reason I created this thread. Thanks for your contribution. When Loma is broke fighting in Pakistan going life and death with a school teacher for his daddy Arum only to lose on the cards don't say I didn't warn you. Sounds like Conor Mcgreggor. Right. He´s LomaMcGregenko©. Zero experience before Salido. Smh. LomaMcgregor© Lomachenko had 0 experience in a professional boxing bout consisting of 12 rounds when he faced Salido. That's a FACT! 37 year old inactive midget The same midget who was unbeaten and was favorite by many boxing fans and experts alike. (who ironically has less ring experience) No, he doesn't! He has had more amateur bouts and has had more professional bouts at the time he faced Lomachenko. That's a fact! Rigo is Lomas best win. Plus Nicholas Walters and plus Gary Russel Jr. Neither win is better than the other in my opinion. However, what is fact is that no other boxer has beaten 3 opponents at the caliber of Gary Russel Jr, Guillermo Rigondeaux and Nicholas Walters in their first 11 professional boxing bouts. That's also a fact! Despite such a great accomplishment, Loma still lost to a bum. Which is totally irrelevant since that was a loss that came in his second bout and since he is no longer stuck in his second bout via any time paradox or loop problems anymore. He has had 9 bouts since then and his recent performances are relevant to his CURRENT quality / level / worth as a boxer, not his 2nd bout. You should add this to Loma wiki page under the loss column. Also submit it to boxing rec. And you should take some logic courses! Yet Floyd dominated top tier competition for 20 years. No credit. I give Floyd Mayweather Jr the credit that he deserves. Loma only has to dominate over a 5 fight span and he is an ATG capable of beating 130lb FLOYD. How many years one dominates isn't as relevant as what one does in those years they dominated in. Also, claiming a boxer is an ATG is totally subjective and arbitrary. Unless there exists an objective / uniformed / universal criteria, method or a system to determine whether a boxer deserves to be an ATG or not. It remains a personal subjective opinion. So me claiming Vasyl Lomachenko is an ATG has no more value than you claiming he isn't. The same for Floyd Mayweather Jr. This also applies to hypothetical match ups. It's all a matter of opinion where there isn't any right or wrong. Unless an objective criteria is established. I personally don't know who would win between Lomachenko and Mayweather at 130 pounds. I have it 50/50 since both are / were the best in their own respective eras. When Loma is broke fighting in Pakistan going life and death with a school teacher for his daddy Arum only to lose on the cards don't say I didn't warn you. What? Makes no sense whatsoever. Perhaps start again and be more specific next time?

So Floyd Mayweather, despite being older than Manny Pacquiao, gets no credit for WINNING the fight - as you have stated "Floyd waited until Manny was washed". To be fair, fighters age differently. By the time PacMay took place, Pacquiao had been through hell and back. Mayweather hardly ever took damage, due to his defensive expertise, and 2 year "retirement." I think Pacquiao's shoulder is what actually hindered him. However Loma gets bullied and LOST to a old washed up bum Salido but its ok because he is a "seasoned veteran". Yeah, keep ignoring Salido's blatant low blows. What about De La Hoya? Floyd was up against much more with less and still outclassed Oscar. Why no credit for Floyd? Floyd was a 5x world champion before he fought Oscar; Loma was 1-0 before fighting Salido. Also, De La Hoya didn't punch Mayweather in the nuts all night. Mayweather gets credit for beating De La Hoya, but let's not act make the win out to be more than it really was.

You lumt@rds don't get it and probably never will. what's your point? you agree that highly touted guys with hundreds of amateur fights don't need to waste their time fighting 15 nobodies, or you don't. you should support a fighter bypassing those type of fights, not criticizing him at the first opportunity like it proves something.

loma lost a split decision enduring countless fouls and had his opponent on queer street...he got exposed doe. rigo gets a few glancing shots behind the head and quits...loma dirty doe. you should be commending loma for doing what a lot of guys with extensive amateur careers should do. name all the other guys who faced that type of opposition and were 2 division world champions in 10 fights. you've never seen it before and probably never will again. deal with it. You lumt@rds don't get it and probably never will.

i like loma alot...i have no beef with him but its always funny to listen to people constantly tell us how fixed and corrupt boxing is...like with ward/kova 1 and 2...and canelo/golovkin......yet somehow one of the slimiest promoters in boxing history put on a card with his new prized pet that hes going to push as one of the top dogs of his company...part of the future of his company...and he put him in there with a ref thats going to allow his guy to be fouled repeatedly.......that stuff just doesnt add up

Again with the blatant disrespect. Please do not mention Castillo and Salido in the same sentence. I find it offensive. Accept Loma has Salidoe problems and get on with your life. loma lost a split decision enduring countless fouls and had his opponent on queer street...he got exposed doe. rigo gets a few glancing shots behind the head and quits...loma dirty doe. you should be commending loma for doing what a lot of guys with extensive amateur careers should do. name all the other guys who faced that type of opposition and were 2 division world champions in 10 fights. you've never seen it before and probably never will again. deal with it.

No. Rather, it would be like a high school student taking their first high school exam without any prior experience of taking any other exam on the same subject (just like how Lomachenko had no prior 12 rounds of boxing experience when he took on Salido for his first bout which consisted of 12 rounds). Sounds like Conor Mcgreggor. Right. He´s LomaMcGregenko©. Zero experience before Salido. Smh. LomaMcgregor© No idea what a GED is, but the final exams were when he faced Nicholas Walters (an undefeated champion with 80%+ knockout record), Gary Russel Jr (another undefeated champion) and Guillermo Rigondeaux (another undefeated champion and one of the best boxers in the world pound for pound). 37 year old inactive midget (who ironically has less ring experience) Rigo is Lomas best win. Despite such a great accomplishment, Loma still lost to a bum. So no, he didn't fail the final (MAIN) exams. He failed a lesser (now an irrelevant) exam in his second bout. His final (MAIN) exams were against Nicholas Walters, Gary Russel Jr and Guillermo Rigondeaux. Beating 3 undefeated opponents in Gary Russel Jr, Guillermo Rigondeaux and Nicholas Walters >>> losing one bout by split decision to Orlando Salido. Therefore, his 3 wins against better (undefeated) opposition outweighs his single loss to a boxer with 14 losses in Orlando Salido. Therefore, his loss to Orlando has now indisputably and irrefutably become irrelevant. You should add this to Loma wiki page under the loss column. Also submit it to boxing rec. A boxer is CURRENTLY as good as how they performed in their most recent bout. Not how they performed 5 or more bouts ago and last time I checked, Lomachenko faced Orlando Salido 9 bouts ago. Thus, what relevance does Lomachenko's loss in his second bout to Orlando Salido have to the Lomachenko of NOW after he has had 11 bouts? Or are we stuck in a time loop where the laws of Lorentz contraction has to be applied in Lomachenko's case since somehow presumably to some individuals, he hasn't moved forward in time from his second bout and is instead stuck in a time loop? Yet Floyd dominated top tier competition for 20 years. No credit. Loma only has to dominate over a 5 fight span and he is an ATG capable of beating 130lb FLOYD. yep. You are the reason I created this thread. Thanks for your contribution. Yes, all of it is because of Bob Arum. Him being able to beat his opponents is based on Bob Arum providing him with superpowers from outside the ring, right? Sure! When Loma is broke fighting in Pakistan going life and death with a school teacher for his daddy Arum only to lose on the cards don't say I didn't warn you.

...but he arguably lost to Castillo. the thing is loma vs salido was just as close as Floyd vs Castillo...both fights could have gone either way. if loma was fortunate enough to get the decision, would we pretend he wasn't in a close fight? if he got his ass beat by salido, then it would fit your narrative...but he didn't and finished strong hurting salido. Again with the blatant disrespect. Please do not mention Castillo and Salido in the same sentence. I find it offensive. Accept Loma has Salidoe problems and get on with your life.

So if Loma is so overrated by your standards (losing to a seasoned veteran in his second pro fight) then why is Gervonta so intimidated by him? Should be an easy win right? LMAO Seasoned veteran? Wait. So Floyd Mayweather, despite being older than Manny Pacquiao, gets no credit for WINNING the fight - as you have stated "Floyd waited until Manny was washed". However Loma gets bullied and LOST to a old washed up bum Salido but its ok because he is a "seasoned veteran". What about De La Hoya? Floyd was up against much more with less and still outclassed Oscar. Why no credit for Floyd? Oscar, Manny, Mosley Vs Floyd = waited until they were washed Salido Vs Loma = "seasoned veteran" Lmao. Smh.

Why is it Lomacoleco wins every imaginary fantasy match up against ATG and futre HOFers all the way up 140lbs by a lanslide...... ....But in the real world a prime Lomacinco got beat by a washed up old man Salido? Yeah, he fought a 3x world champ in his 2nd pro fight, was outweighed by like 11 pounds, and punched in the nuts the whole fight. Love the way you didn't even bother to include those extra details. I don't want to see any more fantasy match up hypothetical threads vs fighters who are better than an old man Salido. It's disrespectful to say the least. Styles make fights, and nobody cares about what you do or don't want. Besides, the only nut puncher better than Salido, is the Foul Pole himself. Especially since Salido whooped Loma by going to the body. No flash ko, corruption. Just good ole body work. Salido nearly castrated Loma, and that pathetic excuse for a referee allowed it to happen. I know it's fantasy, but at least keep it somewhat realistic. just a little I do agree with you here. If my memory serves me, I remember seeing a Loma vs Crawford thread on here, recently. Yeah, I don't see Loma fighting Crawford, ever.

Hypetrain? I don't deal with falsehoods. I deal with facts. Floyd was 50-0. Beat more champs in history of the sport. FACT. See how easy that was? And @ the age of 27 he damn sure didn't lose to an old man Salido. ...but he arguably lost to Castillo. the thing is loma vs salido was just as close as Floyd vs Castillo...both fights could have gone either way. if loma was fortunate enough to get the decision, would we pretend he wasn't in a close fight? if he got his ass beat by salido, then it would fit your narrative...but he didn't and finished strong hurting salido.

Let me put this analogy in its proper perspective: Lomachilngo would be like the 27 year old high school student taking the same class 400 times for 20 semesters. Attempts to obtain a GED but fails the final exam miserably. Eventually passed the test but he had an advantage because Arum was the one grading. Loma fans claim he is Nikola Tesla. Lomachilngo would be like the 27 year old high school student taking the same class 400 times for 20 semesters. No. Rather, it would be like a high school student taking their first high school exam without any prior experience of taking any other exam on the same subject (just like how Lomachenko had no prior 12 rounds of boxing experience when he took on Salido for his first bout which consisted of 12 rounds). Attempts to obtain a GED but fails the final exam miserably. No idea what a GED is, but the final exams were when he faced Nicholas Walters (an undefeated champion with 80%+ knockout record), Gary Russel Jr (another undefeated champion) and Guillermo Rigondeaux (another undefeated champion and one of the best boxers in the world pound for pound). So no, he didn't fail the final (MAIN) exams. He failed a lesser (now an irrelevant) exam in his second bout. His final (MAIN) exams were against Nicholas Walters, Gary Russel Jr and Guillermo Rigondeaux. Beating 3 undefeated opponents in Gary Russel Jr, Guillermo Rigondeaux and Nicholas Walters >>> losing one bout by split decision to Orlando Salido. Therefore, his 3 wins against better (undefeated) opposition outweighs his single loss to a boxer with 14 losses in Orlando Salido. Therefore, his loss to Orlando has now indisputably and irrefutably become irrelevant. A boxer is CURRENTLY as good as how they performed in their most recent bout. Not how they performed 5 or more bouts ago and last time I checked, Lomachenko faced Orlando Salido 9 bouts ago. Thus, what relevance does Lomachenko's loss in his second bout to Orlando Salido have to the Lomachenko of NOW after he has had 11 bouts? Or are we stuck in a time loop where the laws of Lorentz contraction has to be applied in Lomachenko's case since somehow presumably to some individuals, he hasn't moved forward in time from his second bout and is instead stuck in a time loop? Eventually passed the test but he had an advantage because Arum was the one grading. Yes, all of it is because of Bob Arum. Him being able to beat his opponents is based on Bob Arum providing him with superpowers from outside the ring, right? Sure!

....But in the real world a prime Lomacinco got beat by a washed up old man Salido? Loma's prime was in his second pro fight? Come on, man. If you're going to be an idiot, don't put it on display.

So if Loma is so overrated by your standards (losing to a seasoned veteran in his second pro fight) then why is Gervonta so intimidated by him? Should be an easy win right?

Hey man i came up with Salidoe, gimme some credit

As a Loma fan, I accept his loss to Salido. No excuses, nothing. That said, Loma is a special talent. P4P, I only have two guys ahead of him: Usyk and Crawford. Fair enough. Loma is good. I acknowledge he is talented. Just know he has limitations. For instance, he can't handle body work or being at a size disadvantage. Loma fans are acting if his loss to Salidoe is irrelevant. Its not.

Because he is no longer stuck in his 2nd fight. No more than a physics professor is going to be stuck in their high school exam days, after they've already passed their PHD in a University. If someone fails their high school exam and then goes on to obtaining a PHD qualification on the same subject, their high school exam failure becomes irrelevant. Likewise, after what Lomachenko has accomplished in his pro career so far, his one failure has now become irrelevant. Class tells over time. The true worth of a boxer or anybody for that matter, is based on their ENTIRE CAREER RECORD. Not based on one single bout or or on one particular event. It's evident that logic is nonexistent in this forum. Let me put this analogy in its proper perspective: Lomachilngo would be like the 27 year old high school student taking the same class 400 times for 20 semesters. Attempts to obtain a GED but fails the final exam miserably. Eventually passed the test but he had an advantage because Arum was the one grading. Loma fans claim he is Nikola Tesla.

This guy missed his registration window at staymad.com SO he still mad as hell

You suck at boxingscening

Sugar Ray Robinson lost against Jake LaMotta, he shouldn't win any fantasy fight...wait, it seems that Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Ali, Louis, Tyson, Chavez, Arguello, Hagler, Monzon, Charlez and Dempsey also lost, they are all bums. Funny thing is these fools think Hopkins beats GGG even though he lost to Clint Mitchell and they also think Henry Armstrong beats Loma even though Armstrong lost 3 of his first 4 fights. They probably think Arguello beats dudes too. The same Arguello who started 2-2 and lost his first title shot.