Has Billy Joe Officially Shown That He Is Elite

Ive always said that BJS would outbox Lemieuxs ears off, BJS outboxed Eubank with ease and look where Eubank is now. Hes a very slick fighter, hes just an slightly undersized MW imo. Looks more like a LMW if he really tried BJS is actually a pretty fair-sized MW, it's just the the SMW division has a lot of big guys who didn't want to fight at 168 and didn't want to face GGG. Charlos are 6ft and 5'11, Andrade is 6'1 and all have a reach advantage over GGG. Saunders made Lemieux look like a midget the other night

So David Lemieux is the standard for elite status?? Time to raise the bar my friend. Yet you rank a guy p4p 1 who hasn't even fought some one as good as Limeux

I think he has. Lemieux is a good fighter and he made Lemieux look like he couldn't fight at all. Only GGG could beat Lemieux that easily and if GGG isn't elite then no boxer fighting today is elite. Even GGG got hit more by Lemieux than Saunders did. Saunders put on a beautiful display of boxing against a top 5 world rated middleweight and that stamps him as an elite boxer in my opinion.

He looked amazing and skillfull but this was against the caveman Lemieux. A guy who's already been stopped and Golovkin has already did a better number on a few years ago.

:lol1::lol1: Guys like Jacobs/Kid Chocolate/Andy Lee/Martinez/GGG were the best at the time. You beat one of them your Elite. Like Roger Mayweather said most mother****ers dont know **** about boxing. People now jumping on the BJS bandwagon because he beat Lemule.

LOL BJS has always been elite. GGG/Canelo fanboys just tried to downplay him. The Lemule win doesn't mean that much to him IMO. He was elite when he beat Andy Lee and CBjr. Didn't really understand why GGG/Canelo fanboys thought Lemule was going to win. Lemule is not a bigger name than Andy Lee. Andy Lee win is 100X the universe than the win over Lemule.

Depends on how you define elite to be honest. Some people say Cotto was elite...but he lost every time he fought the very best. I think he could do to Canelo what Lara almost did.

Ive always said that BJS would outbox Lemieuxs ears off, BJS outboxed Eubank with ease and look where Eubank is now. Hes a very slick fighter, hes just an slightly undersized MW imo. Looks more like a LMW if he really tried

This version of BJS would give anyone in the division a lot of trouble, for sure except GGG, who would just cut the ring off, walk him down and beat him up

Saunders is officially an elite MW

I don't particularly like him but he looked elite there. I thought his performance vs. Monroe Jr was lacklustre and not elite level but I guess that was an off-night by the looks of it. Canelo, Golovkin, Jacobs, Saunders. Certainly by far the best in the division.

I think he could give Cantnelo some promblems

Imagine if Lemiuex legitimately won three rounds.. That judge would've given 3 or 4 more. There was an attempt of a robbery going on. Unfortunately for them Lemieux couldn't even make it close so they couldn't gift him more than 3 rounds.

It puts him in the argument at 160. I would like to see him fight one of the big 3 next.

Spot on. Saunders really would need to do a job like he did last night v Canelo to get a decision, which i doubt would be the case. I really do think Canelo might have to rely on a robbery to beat Saunders. I'm not sure he has enough power at MW to really hurt Saunders. Canelo's style of landing a few flashy combinations a round won't work v the style of Saunders and Canelo doesn't even have the high work rate to make Saunders expend a lot of energy. Stylistically it's an absolutely awful fight for Canelo. GGG's pressure would possibly take a lot of energy out of Saunders and wear him down at the end but Canelo wouldn't bring that. Canelo is almost unbeatable under this GBP corruption game that they play because he's an iron chin pressure fighter who gets every round that is even remotely close scored in his favor. You can't knock him down or knock him out, you have to totally school him for 12 rounds and even in this case Floyd (out of all people) got a MD win.

Let's be honest, Lemieux getting 3 rounds by one of the judges last night is a proof that another case of Golden Boy shady judging was in play. Canelo gets a decision unless BJS totally schools him like Floyd which I don't think he can do. Spot on. Saunders really would need to do a job like he did last night v Canelo to get a decision, which i doubt would be the case. I really do think Canelo might have to rely on a robbery to beat Saunders. I'm not sure he has enough power at MW to really hurt Saunders. Canelo's style of landing a few flashy combinations a round won't work v the style of Saunders and Canelo doesn't even have the high work rate to make Saunders expend a lot of energy. Stylistically it's an absolutely awful fight for Canelo. GGG's pressure would possibly take a lot of energy out of Saunders and wear him down at the end but Canelo wouldn't bring that.

He’s in the upper echelon of Middleweights Arguably no.3, at worst no.4 The middleweight division is starting to heat up

He's a great fighter for the first 6 rounds but even in this Lemieux fight he started to slow down a bit. The thing is that Lemieux has poor cardio as well and didn't make any adjustments so he could exploit that. Also Lemieux had no jab, absolutely none. GGG beats BJS by sticking his jab at him and cutting him off. BJS could win the early rounds against GGG but GGG has the jab, the cardio and the pressure to drag him into deep waters and win the second half of the fight. Canelo beats him on scorecards in a close decision or even a robbery if needed. Let's be honest, Lemieux getting 3 rounds by one of the judges last night is a proof that another case of Golden Boy shady judging was in play. Canelo gets a decision unless BJS totally schools him like Floyd which I don't think he can do.

Possibly. He has wins over Eubank Jr, Andy Lee, David Lemieux, Willie Monroe and he was the first to beat that Gangs of New York looking dude from last night. He's could be but he doesn't normally beat people as wide as he beat Lemieux.

lol, what by beating Lemieux? Give me a break...fight someone that isn't a punching bag that just walks forward. Fight a Jacobs, a Charlo and then I'll be impressed if he comes through.