Edwin Valero would have beat the dogsht out of Lomachenko

honestly Teofimo is not even a great fighter. lol Valero was actually a special fighter. he's faster than Lopez and way more powerful.

Except its not fantasy. Numerous trainers have said he was an unreal workhorse inside he gym. Mikey garcia said he was the hardest puncher hes ever sparred. Other fighters that have sparred him verify this. Go watch valero sparring morales. Or valero dropping antillon in sparring. Paul Spadafora once made Mayweather quit during sparring, yet somehow he was never considered a P4P great during his career or did much of importance. Funny, you would think that if beating someone great in sparring was made you an ATG it would've shown in the ring.

Valero is too much of an animal to get discouraged by some pity pat lomachenko. Remember when he suffered a freakish cut in the Demarco fight? He just became more blood thirsty and turned stronger. It would be like Mayorga-Spinks but Valero would finish the job. Yes, Prime Edwin Valero is better than Current Teofimo.

Remember when he suffered a freakish cut in the Demarco fight? He just became more blood thirsty and turned stronger. Haha that made me lmao its true guy was an animal in the ring his old trainers say he had some really great skills that he stopped using in fights once he fell in love with his power and jus wanted to hurt ppl I don't know if he would have ever beat Loma I really doubt it in all honesty but you get the feeling he would have given Lomachenko a real rough night for as long as it lasted it'd be like tryin to tame a vicious pitbull

Would have been straight murda For real. Valero was a special kind of fighter.

Tens of thousands look great in the gym. I'll take my own judgement of him his predictable tendencies, defensive vulnerabilities, questionable chin and struggles with the likes of Mosquera (guarantee most who are adamant he wins all these fantasy fights haven't even seen this or probably any other of his fights outside of DeMarco) over gym rumours often which are exaggerated too high heaven. Sure most of them will know a lot more than me but I'll take what I see with my own eyes and have no agenda or product to push I honestly don't know where to begin with claims he beats a peak Manny, Loma etc Its insanity. Everything about Valero's overrated, power included but you'll always have some that believe otherwise most only so sure knowing they have the comfort of not being ever able to be 100% proven wrong. If they truly believe it - some guy with what 1? 2? fights at 135 against an awful level of opposition beats a peak 140 Manny or Loma at any weight quite frankly I'd love to read an in depth reasoning for why and most importantly how he'd pull it off. I'll just put it like this he had alot of POTENTIAL to do great things in the sport. Though at this point we will never know what could have been.

Loma wouldn’t know what to do vs Valero he lost to salido Valero would murder him

Except its not fantasy. Numerous trainers have said he was an unreal workhorse inside he gym. Mikey garcia said he was the hardest puncher hes ever sparred. Other fighters that have sparred him verify this. Go watch valero sparring morales. Or valero dropping antillon in sparring. Tens of thousands look great in the gym. I'll take my own judgement of him his predictable tendencies, defensive vulnerabilities, questionable chin and struggles with the likes of Mosquera (guarantee most who are adamant he wins all these fantasy fights haven't even seen this or probably any other of his fights outside of DeMarco) over gym rumours often which are exaggerated too high heaven. Sure most of them will know a lot more than me but I'll take what I see with my own eyes and have no agenda or product to push I honestly don't know where to begin with claims he beats a peak Manny, Loma etc Its insanity. Everything about Valero's overrated, power included but you'll always have some that believe otherwise most only so sure knowing they have the comfort of not being ever able to be 100% proven wrong. If they truly believe it - some guy with what 1? 2? fights at 135 against an awful level of opposition beats a peak 140 Manny or Loma at any weight quite frankly I'd love to read an in depth reasoning for why and most importantly how he'd pull it off.

This whole Valero fantasy sh1t is almost bordering on those MMA goofs that think some 130lb Chinese actor is the greatest fighter to ever walk the face of the earth. Except its not fantasy. Numerous trainers have said he was an unreal workhorse inside he gym. Mikey garcia said he was the hardest puncher hes ever sparred. Other fighters that have sparred him verify this. Go watch valero sparring morales. Or valero dropping antillon in sparring.

All these threads about who would have beat Loma from Prince Naseem, Amir Khan to Edwin Valero since his win over Loma. The hate is strong.

If you'd lived through Edwin Valero's career and witnessed it firsthand, you'd know that isnt true. Umm ive lived through Ray Leonard’s era till now. Yea Valero made much bigger impression on me than Lomachenko. Valero used to gym hop around LA back in the early 2000s and i saw him train up close regularly. I know his ability and Loma would have got sodomized.

Would have been great to watch.

This whole Valero fantasy sh1t is almost bordering on those MMA goofs that think some 130lb Chinese actor is the greatest fighter to ever walk the face of the earth.

He had the attributes that would trouble Loma. Thinl the flaw with a lot of technical fighters these days is they lack tenacity which is why they end up quitting. Credit where credit is due, Loma showed his agaist Salido and in bouncing back from the loss. That said, Valero is a piece of ****. He didn't accomplish much and all fantasy matchups are built on whats if and speculation. **** him and may his wife rest in peace.

Valero definitely died at the right time of his career for fantasy fights purposes. First, he hadn't fought anyone that was all that good, secondly he ended up with 27-0 and 27 KO's. He did show his many flaws vs DeMarco though, and he was only 28, he was going to get beat up, probably as soon he fought Pacquiao at 140lbs which was being talked about. He would've gotten cut up and had his face destroyed but it would've been fun while it lasted.

Valero is the single most overrated fighter on nsb.

Valero is overrated This is the truth.

Would have been straight murda If you'd lived through Edwin Valero's career and witnessed it firsthand, you'd know that isnt true.

I wouldnt go as far as that. A 130lbs , 135lbs pac would be an absolute awkward beast. Valero was being built up as an opponent for Pacquiao. My opinion is he woulda won . Valero was a beast .Rumors of Valero beating up Oscar in sparring for the DelaHoya/Pac fight were confirmed by Valero's Manager . Who also said they got Paid and sent home early from Big Bear . Valero's one of those fighters that you hear gym stories about him Beating up Everyone he spars with .