I think Vasyl Lomachenko is the best fighter I've ever seen.

This was a totally different case of 'beating a smaller man' compared to Canelo vs Khan & GGG vs Brook. Both Canelo & GGG were getting outboxed & outmaneuvered before they stopped Khan & Brook respectively. While Loma vs Rigo had a totally different 'picture': Rigo was coming to this fight as a bigger puncher of the two, but Lomachenko dominated him from the beginning, outlanded him 55 to 15 & won all the rounds (6-0). Loma showed his amazing skills against defensive master boxer in Rigo... that Rigo couldn't even land any counters. Usually it was Rigo was the one who is landing while avoiding opponents' punches, but this time it was other way around - Rigo could land only 8% of his total punches against Loma. When he usually he lands 48% of them! It was a master class from Loma. i didnt mention brook vs ggg or canelo vs khan so why bring them up. i specifically compared it to floyd vs marquez.

He has a high ring IQ, good instincts but lacks a vicious offense for my liking, I appreciate a boxer-puncher that works off a hard jab and savage hooks to the body. Also all that cheating he does is turning me off. i disagree, lomas the complete package. he's technically the most sound offensive boxer/puncher I've seen. when in different times you had guys who had vicious ko power heavily rely on that one punch. and then you had guys who were great boxers but didn't have that pop so they rely on skills. lomas has everything and he's actually not afraid to put on a good fight.

Nothing wrong with that! Been watching boxing too long and know too much history about the sport to go that far but I been watching Loma for awhile and even I left a Comment on one of his World Series Of Boxing matches on youtube that "He Is Going To Be A Great One" so I'm not shocked by his success at all. The eye test don't lie, you can see when a fighter is special INSTANTLY, they don't need "TIME TO DEVELOP" they're born with a Special Set Of Gifts like Mutants from X-Men :lol1: What he is basically is the Modern Day Willie Pep! http://giant.gfycat.com/EmotionalPleasedGelada.gif http://i.makeagif.com/media/9-27-2015/xRzlIM.gif http://giant.gfycat.com/ImmenseAcidicHagfish.gif So no he is not some talent "BOXING NEVER SEEN BEFORE" that is just great marketing from Arum. No! Talent like Loma has been seen before in this great sport many of times actually, just not in a Eastern European Form. I remember Pirog having a similar Buzz after he knocked out Jacobs because of the way he moved and used the Shoulder Roll. But Yes no question Loma is Special! But do your history first before declaring someone "THE GREATEST" or Proclaiming them as "Something Boxing Never Seen Before". Fans get caught up in the moment too often and draw a blank to Boxing History or they just flat out too lazy to go back and do their research

Salido weighed more than him but his win over Rigondeaux is to be revered? Fck out of here. The Salido win was close and the weight wasn't the only factor in the win, obviously.

Lomachenko is a stud there is no denying that, to me he is the best boxer in the lower weight classes and overall from a technician stand point. Lomachenko is certainly comparable to the best boxes and likely always will be. I would put him alongside those best names of recent times not ahead, but maybe one day it will be something to really discuss.

Loma deserves a ton of credit, he's got great skills. Not enough pro fights to make these kind of judgments yet though. And here's where fandom goes wrong. Loma is universally respected and pretty much liked by all boxing fans, and it would stay that way if his fans would slow their roll a little. Let him get 20 pro fights before comparing him to ATGs. And I normally say 30 fights, but Loma has stepped in and fought solid guys right off the bat, so the bar is lowered for fights for him. I will say that Loma's footwork is stellar, it's his footwork that fighters cannot deal with, his footwork is as good as Joe Calzaghe's was or better. I liked to look of his Saturday too, he can carry more weight, so I think we'll see him all the way up to 140 soon, not sure about 147, but 140 is a cinch for him.

Salido weighed more than him but his win over Rigondeaux is to be revered? Fck out of here.

honest mistake, I understand that but to say hes the best amature boxer ever I cant say that because ive never seen him fight there. I only heard stories but there are stories of guys in the amateurs who are better. I can only speak from a professional level as that's what I follow the most Loma has just under 400 amateur victories with one loss that was avenged. Capped with two gold medals. He's very likely the best amateur ever but of course that doesn't mean he beats any amateur ever, head to head.

It's amateur and you don't have to see him fight pre-pro to realize that he just beat the only other amateur boxer that was even in the discussion of being the best with him, very easily. End of story. honest mistake, I understand that but to say hes the best amature boxer ever I cant say that because ive never seen him fight there. I only heard stories but there are stories of guys in the amateurs who are better. I can only speak from a professional level as that's what I follow the most

ive never seen him fight armature It's amateur and you don't have to see him fight pre-pro to realize that he just beat the only other amateur boxer that was even in the discussion of being the best with him, very easily. End of story.

At the time Naseem was seen as an amazing fighter, but so was Mayweather. The prooblem was Nassem was a small guy much smaller than Mayweather. Naseem was around the same size as Rigodeaux but with a much smaller reach. http://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/rigondeaux-mayweather_1.jpg Great fighters take on all comers. His boxrec is embarassing. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OgXJ8xeckNM/hqdefault.jpg

You didn't watch the video did you? HBO explains Hamed at the time offered Barrera, Morales, Marquez and Tapia all their highest ever pay days to fight him. They all turned it down. That's all fine and dandy. But Barrera DID fight him, and that was the real true test of his career... and he ended it. Merchant telling Floyd he's crazy for thinking Hamed would even consider fighting him.

He did. Great fighters were ducking him. https://youtu.be/uPcD-WVZpyQ Have you even seen the fight? Massacred is a huge exaggeration. Are you saying that Auggie Sanchez was an elite fighter? How about when Floyd called him out after Manfredy? Merchant interrupted quickly and said, "Floyd, Hamed probably just saw this fight, he's not going to fight you."

Like, fighters who's careers I've seen unfolding. Lived through their eras. I don't think I've ever seen anyone as good. Roy Jones Jr. and Prince Naseem had that untouchable vibe in their primes. But Lomachenko is on another level. Nobody can dispute your opinion which is just your opinion. Physically he may be best. But resume isn't quite the best yet

He's an incredible boxer, but he looks like a nonce.

I didn't say that he is the greatest pro but he is great abd he's proven to be the best amateur by beating Rigo, in my opinion. ive never seen him fight armature

Like how Danny Williams and Kevin Mcbride would've played with Mike Tyson, even in Mike Tyson's prime like they did after 2002? Like how Trevor Berbick and Larry Holmes would've played with Muhammad Ali, even during Ali's prime like they did after 1980? Like how Larry Donald would've played with Evander Holyfield even during Holyfield's prime, like how he did against him after 2002? No heavyweight did better than Wlad did against the best young heavyweights near the age of 40. Most were either retired, or were losing to inferior boxers than Fury or Joshua. Or they were fighting bums / journeymens whilst avoiding the best competition. It was Tyson Fury who ducked out of a rematch, just to keep things in perspective. That is, despite having a 10+ year age advantage over a near 40 year old, past his best Wladimir Klitschko. So Tyson Fury's own actions speaks volumes about his own chances of beating a past his best Wladimir Klitschko, never mind a prime Wlad. It totally contradicts your contradictory speculation. Yet, somehow according to you he is going to beat prime Wladimir Klitschko when he ducked out of a rematch against a near 40 year old Wladimir Klitschko and was barely even able to land a glove on Wlad during the first bout? Let us know how good Fury is looking against the best young heavyweights when he is 38 years old (assuming he is still even boxing). Wladimir Klitschko from 2006-2012 = superhuman like Ivan Drago! Unbeatable and unstoppable! Didn't even lose a round during this period. Who gives a flying fu7k about un-evolved and partially grown flyweights like Vasyl Lomachenko or Floyd Mayweather jr? They wouldn't survive 30 seconds against Wladimir Klitschko. Would get knocked the fu7ck out by the first jab. heavyweight boxing = real boxing! Best heavyweight = best boxer! No not at all the same and your examples are totally unrelated to Wlad and Fury.

It was impossible to beat him for fat midgets like Eddie Chambers. Tyson Fury would have played with Wlad in his prime the same way he did in 2015. Like how Danny Williams and Kevin Mcbride would've played with Mike Tyson, even in Mike Tyson's prime like they did after 2002? Like how Trevor Berbick and Larry Holmes would've played with Muhammad Ali, even during Ali's prime like they did after 1980? Like how Larry Donald would've played with Evander Holyfield even during Holyfield's prime, like how he did against him after 2002? No heavyweight did better than Wlad did against the best young heavyweights near the age of 40. Most were either retired, or were losing to inferior boxers than Fury or Joshua. Or they were fighting bums / journeymens whilst avoiding the best competition. It was Tyson Fury who ducked out of a rematch, just to keep things in perspective. That is, despite having a 10+ year age advantage over a near 40 year old, past his best Wladimir Klitschko. So Tyson Fury's own actions speaks volumes about his own chances of beating a past his best Wladimir Klitschko, never mind a prime Wlad. It totally contradicts your contradictory speculation. Yet, somehow according to you he is going to beat prime Wladimir Klitschko when he ducked out of a rematch against a near 40 year old Wladimir Klitschko and was barely even able to land a glove on Wlad during the first bout? Let us know how good Fury is looking against the best young heavyweights when he is 38 years old (assuming he is still even boxing). Wladimir Klitschko from 2006-2012 = superhuman like Ivan Drago! Unbeatable and unstoppable! Didn't even lose a round during this period. Who gives a flying fu7k about un-evolved and partially grown flyweights like Vasyl Lomachenko or Floyd Mayweather jr? They wouldn't survive 30 seconds against Wladimir Klitschko. Would get knocked the fu7ck out by the first jab. heavyweight boxing = real boxing! Best heavyweight = best boxer!

Roy Jones Jr. and Prince Naseem had that untouchable vibe in their primes. But Lomachenko is on another level. Hamed never had an 'untouchable' vibe. When he truly tested himself he got massacred and retired.

I think most real boxing fans give the most credit to guys moving up and beating elite opponents who are considerably bigger. Loma has yet to show this. As good as Floyd was, I didn't see him accomplish great things against bigger guys anywhere near their prime -- he managed NOT to fight bigger guys. Loma the best I've seen? No way. I'm impressed so far, but Rigo is way smaller.