stop making excuses for marquez/rigo, they got outclassed

Marquez was not only outsized, outweighed and cheated on the scales he was also in the worst shape of his entire career (he had to hire Heroidia after that fight), he looked bloated and sluggish as hell Rigo on the other hand, was in excellent shape with people commenting how "beastly" he looked in the pre fight workouts Marquez looked like garbage in the pre-fight footage, he had no s/conditioning coach and was eating hamburguers to make weight and drinking piss I agree Floyd was all wrong for him anyway, style wise, but Marquez went through many other disadvantages aside from that one so big credit for Loma no credit for *****ass Floyd. was marquez outsized by bradley? coming off the biggest win of his career in the shape of his life he still got a boxing lesson, what is the excuse for that? no version of marquez ever beats floyd period.

You are entitled to your opinion. Size plays a role in your ability to ouclass your opponent -or be outclassed- as much as skills. There are a lot of things in the ring that fighters usually do that they wouldn't be able to do against significantly bigger men. That's why we have so many weight-classes. These two fights were physical mismatches. I agree with this. Everything from getting your opponent to react to feints due to your shots being more hurtful to being able to cover more ground with your footwork. Most of Loma's punches were just love taps last night, and you can afford to do that when your punches have a lot more weight behind them. Theres more to size advantage then just leaning on your opponent or bulldozing them, otherwise master boxers would be moving up all the time to fight other pure boxers in higher weight classes.

The best you can say if you ignore the weight (which is frankly ridiculous), is that prime Lomachenko is the superior boxer and fighter to a 37 year old inactive Rigondeaux. Which shouldnt really be surprising to anyone Call them excuses call em what you want. These were just facts coming into the fight

I give little credit for either win. Floyds looks a bit better now given Marquez went on to have success at 147, KOing Pac and running Timmeh close, but really it was what it was, a great big man pulling a great (but not as great) smaller guy up in weight and cheating him on the scales. Lomachenko gets little credit from me because he had all the advantages last night. He was significantly fresher, younger, bigger and more active than Rigondeaux. Even accounting for the preposterous difference in size, Rigo was still fighting his first top level opponent in like 4 years, at 37 yrs old. Is it that surprising he wouldnt be as sharp as Lomachenko? Im mostly pissed off at other Rigo fans for building this thing up to be something it wasnt. Lomachenko is no.4 on my p4p list behind GGG, Canelo and Bud. I think Canelo and Golovkins performance against each other trumps anything that Loma or Crawford have done so far, both of these guys are looking for signiture wins still in my eyes. I slightly prefer Crawfords depth to his resume, but really they are 3a and 3b like Canelo and GGG are 1a and 1b.

The difference is that Marquez lost fair and square and Rigo fight was weird and strage, looks fixed. Maquez was a better win

You are entitled to your opinion. Size plays a role in your ability to ouclass your opponent -or be outclassed- as much as skills. There are a lot of things in the ring that fighters usually do that they wouldn't be able to do against significantly bigger men. That's why we have so many weight-classes. These two fights were physical mismatches.

Agreed. Loma is the superior fighter and would have beaten Rigo at any weight. The size difference didn't play a factor in this fight.

Marquez was not only outsized, outweighed and cheated on the scales he was also in the worst shape of his entire career (he had to hire Heroidia after that fight), he looked bloated and sluggish as hell Rigo on the other hand, was in excellent shape with people commenting how "beastly" he looked in the pre fight workouts Marquez looked like garbage in the pre-fight footage, he had no s/conditioning coach and was eating hamburguers to make weight and drinking piss I agree Floyd was all wrong for him anyway, style wise, but Marquez went through many other disadvantages aside from that one so big credit for Loma no credit for *****ass Floyd. Look at this disgusting, putrid, and blatantly hypocritical post. This user here has no shame in his bigotry and his zealotry. What a waste.

He's white supremacist Trump support. GGGuaranteed. MarGGGarito style Hmm makes sense as to why he wont give floyd credit but gives credit to loma. :usa2: Im sick of these fake americans supporting eastern Europeans over their own. It's time to deport them

It's really simple, if you denigrated Floyd and gave him no credit for beating Marquez DO NOT MAKE THREADS AND POSTS LAUDING LOMA FOR DOING THE SAME THING. Those of us who DID give Floyd ample credit and praise for the win can do the same for Loma because WE AREN'T BLATANT AND ABHORRENT HYPOCRITES.

Like I said before the fight, the size difference would be too great. I see a few Rigo fans making excuses but I see even more Loma fans trying to pretend they were close in size. It was comical how much bigger Loma was. It would be like GG and Kovalev fighting at 175. Doesn't matter what anyone says after the fight, Kovalev will have been too big to be fighting that little dude at 175.

Marquez was not only outsized, outweighed and cheated on the scales he was also in the worst shape of his entire career (he had to hire Heroidia after that fight), he looked bloated and sluggish as hell Rigo on the other hand, was in excellent shape with people commenting how "beastly" he looked in the pre fight workouts Marquez looked like garbage in the pre-fight footage, he had no s/conditioning coach and was eating hamburguers to make weight and drinking piss I agree Floyd was all wrong for him anyway, style wise, but Marquez went through many other disadvantages aside from that one so big credit for Loma no credit for *****ass Floyd. are you american?

Marquez was not only outsized, outweighed and cheated on the scales he was also in the worst shape of his entire career (he had to hire Heroidia after that fight), he looked bloated and sluggish as hell Rigo on the other hand, was in excellent shape with people commenting how "beastly" he looked in the pre fight workouts Marquez looked like garbage in the pre-fight footage, he had no s/conditioning coach and was eating hamburguers to make weight and drinking piss I agree Floyd was all wrong for him anyway, style wise, but Marquez went through many other disadvantages aside from that one so big credit for Loma no credit for *****ass Floyd.

Might have been easier to hold loma