if lomachenko wins he's not p4p#1

Did Mayweather get credit for beating JMM? Did Golovkin for beating Brook? Lets not pretend Lomachenko is being treat differently. Check and mate.

The only thing embarrassing here is the fact that you call yourself a boxing fan and say shyt like this^^^. I don't know if he is a boxing fan. His entire post history is more to do with the tabloidal aspect of boxing...nothing technical, no analysis just politics and other nonsense.

Who is p4p #1 if Loma wins then?

.....................I started this signature crap with you and it is a pointless back and forth and I would rather have my more productive signature back so I removed the references to you. You know you have been biased. I dont need to throw it out there at everyone with every post I make. FYI, at this point I think Rigo is a better skilled boxer than GGG and has been underappreciated. I'm even on who is better between Lom and Rigo.

Even if Lomachenko KO1s Rigondeaux in spectacular fashion, he should NOT be considered THE #1 P4P... Based on the simple facts that he is bigger than Rigondeaux, way younger than Rigondeaux, about evenly skilled as Rigondeaux, has a short Pro resume like Rigondeaux, and is the guy "the powers that be" want to win the fight... On the other hand...any W in the books for Lomachenko tonight SHOULD make him THE CLEAR #2 in the world... Even if they straight rob Rigondeaux...it's what's IN THE BOOKS that counts, not what "fans" feel or say...whether they like it or not.I agree with some of this. But age is only a difference when a fighter clearly shows slipping, and Rigo has not and in fact his defense has preserved him and he has not taken punishment which ages a fighter faster than ever. And Rigo has the reach advantage which is rare for the shorter fighter. But this whole PFP #1 thing is like musical chairs and subjective. I consider both fighters top 5 PFP. If they fight to a draw, I can see Lom maintaining his ranking and Rigo moving up a notch or two. This fight will be won on skills and strategy and game plan. And whoever can adapt or re-adapt will win.

Even if Lomachenko KO1s Rigondeaux in spectacular fashion, he should NOT be considered THE #1 P4P... Based on the simple facts that he is bigger than Rigondeaux, way younger than Rigondeaux, about evenly skilled as Rigondeaux, has a short Pro resume like Rigondeaux, and is the guy "the powers that be" want to win the fight... On the other hand...any W in the books for Lomachenko tonight SHOULD make him THE CLEAR #2 in the world... Even if they straight rob Rigondeaux...it's what's IN THE BOOKS that counts, not what "fans" feel or say...whether they like it or not.

It is if the other fighter is moving up two divisions and can make the weight the day of the fight with his clothes on. No, it's not unless you can see the future. You said it'd be embarrassing because you got caught (once again) in another NSB flame war and posted what you posted before you thought about what you were posting. Deep down you know it's not true. Happens to the best of us all the time.

Most thought Hagler won. Bad example. You don't know if it's a bad example because you don't know how Loma/Rigo plays out. The point is, one top fighter losing to another top fighter isn't embarrassing.

Everyone claiming the guy is the best in the world and losing to a guy from 2 divisions below, will be extremely embarrassing. Lets not pretend it won't. If he lost to a journeyman, it would be embarrassing. But losing to a fighter of Rigondeaux's caliber isn't. Was Hagler losing to SRL embarrassing?

Lomachenko fans make excuses about the weight of Salido all the damn time. He won't get full credit. If he loses it will be embarrassing for him. :lol1: Salido missing the weight and Loma's lack of experience is an excuse, but unlike most of the other excuses made by boxers/fans when they lose it is a valid excuse. Unless he gets knocked out with the first punch Rigo throws, the potential loss won't be embarrassing. He'll lose to one of the greatest and most skilled fighters in the world. Nothing embarrassing about that. The only thing embarrassing here is the fact that you call yourself a boxing fan and say shyt like this^^^.

Fight ends in a draw so the bobfather can milk as much out of these two as possible. Cuban old aged masterpiece bore Vs Ukrainian technical young masterpiece ... Both of whom are unknown by the biggest market which is the casuals... FOTY and then gets advertised that #2 will be even better. You heard it here first. There's a reason Sky sports didn't pick up on the fight. And that's cos they know #2 is a certainty and will generate more cash

Robbie Barlet - you sir are certifiable.exactly - what a fool!!

is this a double standard? i feel like if lomo wins he's not pound for pound number 1. but if rigo wins he's p4p king. it's like lomachenko has every single thing in his favor to absolute win to the highest degree (provided mostly by the promotional boxing system) 2 class weight disadvantage, Arums hell bent actions on getting him banned, rigos titles being stripped. the list is endless for the f*ck to be given to the guy. if lomo wanted to be p4p1 he should have fought garcia & already king crawford? not a fight that you have most of all of the advantages in? thats why i feel like rigo is p4p number 1 with a win on lomo and lomo is not with a win on rigo. but great fight none the less.......just had to talk some sense with what we're actually dealing with here. If Loma jumped two divisons, fought and lost to Crawford, would you say the same^^ about Crawford? Something tells me you wouldn't. :lol1: I partially agree with you doe. Loma is not #1 if he beats Rigo. Nobody is. The spot is vacant imo. Neither GGG, Crawford or Loma are levels above nor have better resumes than the other two at the moment.

Sorry man, sounds like excuses to me. I'll go make the same thread every time Loma moves up a division and see how you feel. Loma gets full credit for this. If Rigo is this mega boxer, why should a few lbs mater? Loma took a fight vs Salido when that fuk didn't even try to make weight, lost a BS decision and kept his mouth shut. Why does no one mention that? Same people saying no credit for Loma are same people saying Salido whooped his ass...Why ya'll crediting Salido with the win if a few lbs makes all the difference in the world? Robbie Barlet - you sir are certifiable.

And Robbie the a$$ clown - You and your low IQ posts are blocked by me. Dont bother responding. I have better things to do going forward than responding to a mental midget like you who is now on my ignore list. I shut you down little Robbie. Bye bye.

I don't think you know what contradictory means. :lol1: Poor guy. :dance:Yes I do and everyone who sees your quotes does too, a$$ clown.

:lol1: So much desperation you look like a fool. At the time they were making stupid offers. Why don't you pull up my posts saying Loma wouldn't get as much credit as Rigo from months ago too. My Stance hasn't changed.Name those stupid offers Mr. Low IQ. I pulled your contradictory quotes which prove everything. You're seen as the a$$ clown of the boards but you know this already. Not news.

I'd say the winner will be p4p #1 most likely in either case You may feel Rigo will get more credit for the win, which could be argued to be true because he's the underdog moving up weight at 37. But, he would need more credit to get the same p4p ranking imo anyway, as he hasn't fought a name in years. So it all evens out as far as I'm concerned. The winner will end up in the same position regardless of who it is.

and?....... Rigo is a risk for Lomachenko amd they were making stupid offers. You're proving nothing.Mr. Low IQ, they made the fight because they wanted the fight which again torches you. Thanks for bringing a pea shooter to a fight against a machine gun.

Some of the fans who said Lom was ducking Rigo and afraid of him a few months ago will be personally addressed if they make excuses if Lom wins. True! Even with the 'supposed advantages' that Lomachenko may have over Rigondeaux. If Rigondeaux still accepts a match against Lomachenko, then all it shows is that he is the one who is confident enough in his abilities to be able to win, despite those 'supposed disadvantages'. So since he is agreeing to the match, he obviously deserves credit if he wins but so does Lomachenko for also potentially winning. Both deserve equal credit! One can't use the excuse 'but Rigondeaux faced bigger disadvantages' if Rigondeaux accepted the fight under the stipulations, since he already knows what the stipulations are (he should at the very least). if Rigondeaux accepts the match, then it shows that those 'supposed disadvantages' aren't significant. Therefore, who are others to argue about 'supposed disadvantages' when Rigondeaux himself doesn't deem the disadvantages to be too significant. He knows best and if he were to deem those disadvantages too significant, then he wouldn't have accepted the match in the first place.