Truly "GREAT" fighters WANT to be challenged...

Now I must Red K you... lol Okay..

Agree with this. Ward gets too much credit for standard stuff. And there's definitely some anti-European sentiments on this forum going on. Now I must Red K you...

Case in point: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/14/b2/79/14b2792b6e75d5c69b1ec42c15ab40b6.jpg LMAOOOO!!.....smh...amazing. So true. It's not all about money, it's champion mentality to want to test yourself against the best. It's a very rare quality today, but was more apparent in the 70s - 90s. I think all this speak of A side, high pay for fighting weak opposition in the 00s ruined boxing. :fing02: Yes...they actually fought for Glory in the glory days... Good post...all I want to know is...who is THE BEST?

Ward fought the best men in his weight class nothing more. That's good but nothing Russians GGG, Kovalev and Loma aren't doing. Ward never fought anyone even a pound heavier than the weight class he was in.When Ward fought Kovalev he was a full light heavyweight who said he could no longer comfortably make 168 and would never fight at 168 again. Ward's last 2 fights before Kovalev were at 175. Ward didn't move up to 175 to dare to be great. He moved up because he had to. He had out grown 168 and was a full light heavyweight who weighed 186 on fight night. Most people thought Kovalev deserved to win the 1st fight with Ward and Ward's KO over Kovalev was a questionable stoppage. Rigo has moved up 8 pounds to fight a great fighter when he can still make 122. Still he looks very lean and strong as hell in recent pictures of him so he won't be giving up much if any muscular weight when he fights Loma. There will be two men in that ring. If Rigo becomes great if he wins then Loma becomes great if he wins. You can't have it so only Rigo can achieve greatness. Your opinion on who is great and who is a B level boxer is just your opinion and not a fact. You get to decide those things for yourself but the rest of us get to decide for ourselves who is great and who is B level etc. I think there will be two great boxers in the ring when Loma fights Rigo. The winner might become a little greater. Agree with this. Ward gets too much credit for standard stuff. And there's definitely some anti-European sentiments on this forum going on.

So true. It's not all about money, it's champion mentality to want to test yourself against the best. It's a very rare quality today, but was more apparent in the 70s - 90s. I think all this speak of A side, high pay for fighting weak opposition in the 00s ruined boxing.

Completely agree with the notion of this thread. Jeff "The Hornet" Horn dared to be great, unlike Manny who ducked him on a rematch after getting called out, to take a fight with a guy who's 0-1. Lol...Manny really went South, didn't he?...just said "F*ck it. I am a wannabe Floyd Mayweather. It's true."... Green K for all people in agreeance and The Know.

Ward fought the best men in his weight class nothing more. That's good but nothing Russians GGG, Kovalev and Loma aren't doing. Ward never fought anyone even a pound heavier than the weight class he was in.When Ward fought Kovalev he was a full light heavyweight who said he could no longer comfortably make 168 and would never fight at 168 again. Ward's last 2 fights before Kovalev were at 175. Ward didn't move up to 175 to dare to be great. He moved up because he had to. He had out grown 168 and was a full light heavyweight who weighed 186 on fight night. Most people thought Kovalev deserved to win the 1st fight with Ward and Ward's KO over Kovalev was a questionable stoppage. Rigo has moved up 8 pounds to fight a great fighter when he can still make 122. Still he looks very lean and strong as hell in recent pictures of him so he won't be giving up much if any muscular weight when he fights Loma. There will be two men in that ring. If Rigo becomes great if he wins then Loma becomes great if he wins. You can't have it so only Rigo can achieve greatness. Your opinion on who is great and who is a B level boxer is just your opinion and not a fact. You get to decide those things for yourself but the rest of us get to decide for ourselves who is great and who is B level etc. I think there will be two great boxers in the ring when Loma fights Rigo. The winner might become a little greater. After skimming through that block and getting a negative vibe, I have come to the conclusion you're a bit of a nuthugging anti-American... No Quality Boxing Fan would have a problem with my opening post and take that personally...it revealed your inferiority and insecurity. And for the record, both of these guys WERE "great" amateurs and ARE A level Pros...they are NOT "great" Pros YET....the #1 PFP, Crawford, is not a "great" Pro YET... That can and might change tonight though...I would love to see Rigondeaux manage it...

Yep like Guillermo El Chacal the Jawbreaker eye socket taker left hand devil Rigondeaux I agree, rising to the challenge makes great fights & boxing history. Looking forward to this bout, not emotionally invested in either fighter but it should be one of the best of 2017, and it's been a pretty decent year for boxing so far. Hope it lives up to the hype. You guys know...and yeah, Rigondeaux DOES look like a little demon...lol

Ward fought the best men in his weight class nothing more. That's good but nothing Russians GGG, Kovalev and Loma aren't doing. Ward never fought anyone even a pound heavier than the weight class he was in.When Ward fought Kovalev he was a full light heavyweight who said he could no longer comfortably make 168 and would never fight at 168 again. Ward's last 2 fights before Kovalev were at 175. Ward didn't move up to 175 to dare to be great. He moved up because he had to. He had out grown 168 and was a full light heavyweight who weighed 186 on fight night. Most people thought Kovalev deserved to win the 1st fight with Ward and Ward's KO over Kovalev was a questionable stoppage. Rigo has moved up 8 pounds to fight a great fighter when he can still make 122. Still he looks very lean and strong as hell in recent pictures of him so he won't be giving up much if any muscular weight when he fights Loma. There will be two men in that ring. If Rigo becomes great if he wins then Loma becomes great if he wins. You can't have it so only Rigo can achieve greatness. Your opinion on who is great and who is a B level boxer is just your opinion and not a fact. You get to decide those things for yourself but the rest of us get to decide for ourselves who is great and who is B level etc. I think there will be two great boxers in the ring when Loma fights Rigo. The winner might become a little greater.

Yep like Guillermo El Chacal the Jawbreaker eye socket taker left hand devil Rigondeaux