LMAO, you Euros and your love for Lennox Lewis & The Klitschkos.
Guys who lost to Oliver McCall, Corrie Sanders, Ross Purrity, Hasim Rahman, & Lamon Brewster as young men in their primes, have zero place at the top of lists like this
Please.
1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Holmes
4. Foreman
5. Liston
6. Frazier
7. Tunney
8. Tyson
9. Lewis
10. Dempsey
Lewis too high up on a lot of lists. Excellent fighter, but difficult to justify in the top 5 of all-time. His resume can't compare to Ali's or Wilder's.
Yeah Wilder. He’s already top 3 for sure....
Lewis too high up on a lot of lists. Excellent fighter, but difficult to justify in the top 5 of all-time. His resume can't compare to Ali's or Wilder's.
01.) Lennox Lewis
02.) Muhammad Ali
03.) Larry Holmes
04.) Joe Louis
05.) Rocky Marciano
06.) George Foreman
07.) Jack Johnson
08.) Wladimir Klitschko
09.) Evander Holyfield
10.) Mike Tyson
Probobly the best list so far :beerchug:
If Wilder is the best heavyweight who ever lived then Molina should be somewhere in the top 10 for giving him a good fight.
Molina would be 17th just after Stiverne.
Lewis is very good but he had a somewhat undependable chin. He was knocked out twice in his prime by two guys who weren't that good. He came back to knock them both out but that doesn't make those two KO losses go away. If he had not been cut I think Vitali would have knocked him out. Lewis retired rather than face Vitali in a big money rematch. He was old and had a right to retire at that time but I don't think he was the best heavyweight in history. Top 10 yes. Number 1? Not on my list.
01.) Lennox Lewis
02.) Muhammad Ali
03.) Larry Holmes
04.) Joe Louis
05.) Rocky Marciano
06.) George Foreman
07.) Jack Johnson
08.) Wladimir Klitschko
09.) Evander Holyfield
10.) Mike Tyson
C. Deontay Wilder
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. George Foreman
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Joe Frazier
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Sonny Liston 12. Jersey Joe Walcott 13. Ezzard Charles 14. Mike Tyson 15. Wladimir Klitshcko
With Heavyweights in ranking in an all-time sense you also have to factor in relative to their era due to the size differences. More so in any division the Heavyweight has changed on size. I would absolutely pick Lewis or Bowe over Marciano but their resumes and legacies not at all.If Wilder is the best heavyweight who ever lived then Molina should be somewhere in the top 10 for giving him a good fight.
I know you love him but Wlad is too high considering how many times he was knocked out by boxers who weren't that good. He had a great long run as champion but that doesn't make his KO losses completely disappear. Vitali should be on the top 10 list above Wlad in my opinion. He knocked almost everybody out that he fought and was never knocked down in his career. He had the solid chin, ruggedness and stamina that Wlad lacked. He was the better brother and was very hard to beat. Overall your list seems reasonable but the prime Tyson probably should be on it. He had a short prime but he was a real monster during that prime. If it was my list Sonny Liston would be on it.
C. Deontay Wilder
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. George Foreman
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Joe Frazier
9. Lennox Lewis
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Sonny Liston 12. Jersey Joe Walcott 13. Ezzard Charles 14. Mike Tyson 15. Wladimir Klitshcko
With Heavyweights in ranking in an all-time sense you also have to factor in relative to their era due to the size differences. More so in any division the Heavyweight has changed on size. I would absolutely pick Lewis or Bowe over Marciano but their resumes and legacies not at all.
Nope Lewis is the greatest H2H fighter. Ali's fame and love is what keeps him on top. Lewis was a better fighter.
I have to respectfully disagree, Ali is far an away the best and we didnt even get to see his prime years, he fought during the golden era of heavyweights and was the top guy.
1. M. Ali 56-5 (1960 - 1981)
2. L. Lewis 42-2-1 (1989 - 2004)
3. J. Louis 66-3-1 (1934 - 1951)
4. W. Klitscko 64-5 (1996 - 2017 )
5. L. Holmes 69-6 (1973 - 2002)
6. G. Foreman 76-5 (1969 - 1998)
7. E. Holyfield 44-10-2 (1989 - 2011)
8. J. Fraizer 32-4-1 (1965 - 1981)
9. R. Marcaino 49-0 (1947 - 1955)
10. J. Jackson 73-13-10 (1898 - 1945)
Not a bad list tbh i'd switch marciano with klitchko, move jack johnson to #8 and mike tyson at #10
Who are is top 5 wins?
But who did he beat?
Who did Joe Louis beat??? How many of these historic heavyweights would beat Haye or Povetkin???
His resume is with top 10 heavyweights
#6 Jennings
#2 Pulev
#2 Povetkin
#2 Haye
#3 Chambers
#2 Chagaev
#6 Ibragov
#9 Thompson
#7 Brewster
#1 Byrd
#7 Brock
#5 Peter
#8 McCline
#5 Byrd