[HISTORY] Lets get something straight about Mayweather

No one cares. Get over it.

The Golovkin fight made no sense to anyone, except people desperate to see him lose. A gut 2 weight classes smaller, at the end of his career, who didn't cut a lot and could make 140 if he really wanted to, against a true MW in his prime? That's how great they thought Floyd was, they had to stack the deck completely against him in order to call it a "fair fight". Agreed...but Floyd calling ggg easy work just fuels the fire.

So calling fighters out is enough then, got it. What happened to no offer was sent, just making noise etc? It's funny how the standard changes depending on whether you like the fighter in question.

Yea I do think it was a better version of Berto then last few but no doubt it gave some fuel to Floyd haters Which are many and worse a lot of them are media.But really with a lot of these guys he could have fought ggg and their would have been excuses if he won.(which at 38 and nat 130-35 I would not bet on). The Golovkin fight made no sense to anyone, except people desperate to see him lose. A gut 2 weight classes smaller, at the end of his career, who didn't cut a lot and could make 140 if he really wanted to, against a true MW in his prime? That's how great they thought Floyd was, they had to stack the deck completely against him in order to call it a "fair fight".

I actually think Berto doesn't get enough credit. And, he actually kept Floyd on his toes. The dude came to fight. As I say though, it's the optics that matter to the public.... Yea I do think it was a better version of Berto then last few but no doubt it gave some fuel to Floyd haters Which are many and worse a lot of them are media.But really with a lot of these guys he could have fought ggg and their would have been excuses if he won.(which at 38 and nat 130-35 I would not bet on).

Random blood and urine testing. That's what Floyd wanted for the Pac fight. Pac turned a 50/50 split because he was juicing. It's pathetic the HBO shills (Kellerman, Steve Kim, Fat Dan) in the boxing media blame Floyd for the Pac fight not happening when both men were in their primes.

I see your point but Berto although not quite top 10 anymore was not thought of as a stinker.But I would have liked Danny G or somone closer to that but don't see it quite as bad as you do.Mostly because he was 38 and retiring.But there was something May seen even early in Berto.Because they were set up to fight like 3 times and Berto kept blowing it lol. I actually think Berto doesn't get enough credit. And, he actually kept Floyd on his toes. The dude came to fight. As I say though, it's the optics that matter to the public....

Anyone "with wisdom" can see how bad a look it was. I have always maintained that I think he deserved to go out on an easy one, esp since he had just beaten Pac and was finishing up his contract. I don't think less of him for it. But, that doesn't change the optics of the situation. It only gives the many critics their, "Ah ha! I told you!" And, fuels this nauseating fire that's been burning for years now. Surely you can see that. That I agree 100% it gave food for fodder.

For the "greatest of his generation", it was anti-climactic. The huge drop in sales (for what was "your last chance to see him in the ring") reflects that. Even Floyd fans were embarrassed. Like I said, I didn't want or expect him to do something risky. He deserved to go out on something a little easier. But, at least do a fun fight for the fans, or something that people WANT to see. No one wanted that fight except for May and Berto. Keep in mind, the world felt robbed by FLoyd and Manny at the time too. Giving them Berto instead of a fan-friendly fight was weak as hell. Only Floyd apologists try to hide that. I see your point but Berto although not quite top 10 anymore was not thought of as a stinker.But I would have liked Danny G or somone closer to that but don't see it quite as bad as you do.Mostly because he was 38 and retiring.But there was something May seen even early in Berto.Because they were set up to fight like 3 times and Berto kept blowing it lol.

For a retirement(at least at time) fight it was not that bad for 38 For the "greatest of his generation", it was anti-climactic. The huge drop in sales (for what was "your last chance to see him in the ring") reflects that. Even Floyd fans were embarrassed. Like I said, I didn't want or expect him to do something risky. He deserved to go out on something a little easier. But, at least do a fun fight for the fans, or something that people WANT to see. No one wanted that fight except for May and Berto. Keep in mind, the world felt robbed by FLoyd and Manny at the time too. Giving them Berto instead of a fan-friendly fight was weak as hell. Only Floyd apologists try to hide that.

Lets get something straight about Floyd Mayweather --- when he got control of his career after breaking from Top Rank and beating Judah he's fought nothing but the best. Haters that say he avoided guys until they were weak need to do their research and eat crow. Floyd was calling DLH AND SSM out long before that so no arguments can be made he never tried getting those fights. He called Tszyu, SSM, and DLH back in 2005. Proof below. That cat's toofeses was coming out y'all, nahmean! The evidence will show Bob Arum said the DLH fight would make no money and 13 months after leaving Top Rank Floyd broke PPV recods and tapped DLH's asś. Since Floyd left Top Rank he fought: Baldomir (had to grab the WBC belt to get DLH) DLH Hatton JMM SSM Ortiz Cotto Guerrero Alvarez Maidana Pacquiao Berto McWelfare For someone that avoided fighters, I would say that evidence states the complete opposite. everytime they slam his resume, i ask..Name a current fighter whos resume is better...silence!!!

I don't see why anybody with wisdom would critize a fighter for taking a soft touch as a retirement fight. Floyd was pro 19 years at that point which is 3-5 years past the normal retirement years (14-16) for pro's. Anyone "with wisdom" can see how bad a look it was. I have always maintained that I think he deserved to go out on an easy one, esp since he had just beaten Pac and was finishing up his contract. I don't think less of him for it. But, that doesn't change the optics of the situation. It only gives the many critics their, "Ah ha! I told you!" And, fuels this nauseating fire that's been burning for years now. Surely you can see that.

I don't see why anybody with wisdom would critize a fighter for taking a soft touch as a retirement fight. Floyd was pro 19 years at that point which is 3-5 years past the normal retirement years (14-16) for pro's. LOL Just said same thing like min or 2 after you.great minds must think (at least a little)alike.

Exactly. They're never perfect. No matter what Loma goes on to do, he's always carry a legit Salido loss. Another modern fighter with great resume; Ward. But, it's not perfect as there are tune-ups in there. Calzaghe was an undefeated fighter, but whose resume is lacking a lot of prime opponents. Then you have past greats like Ali, who had an amazing resume, but with several losses. All things considered, May's is pretty stellar. Fighting Berto at the end was a mistake as it will forever leave the door open for criticism. For a retirement(at least at time) fight it was not that bad for 38

Fighting Berto at the end was a mistake as it will forever leave the door open for criticism. I don't see why anybody with wisdom would critize a fighter for taking a soft touch as a retirement fight. Floyd was pro 19 years at that point which is 3-5 years past the normal retirement years (14-16) for pro's.

Good points but who's remume is perfect? Exactly. They're never perfect. No matter what Loma goes on to do, he's always carry a legit Salido loss. Another modern fighter with great resume; Ward. But, it's not perfect as there are tune-ups in there. Calzaghe was an undefeated fighter, but whose resume is lacking a lot of prime opponents. Then you have past greats like Ali, who had an amazing resume, but with several losses. All things considered, May's is pretty stellar. Fighting Berto at the end was a mistake as it will forever leave the door open for criticism.

And it is a fact that Floyd even called out Oscar when he was a 130 pound fighter which was 3 divisions up and that takes balls!! And when he called out Shane, Shane complained about a tooth ache, lol!! No need to pay attention to those sort of people. Some just jump on a bandwagon and ride it, they see the guy talking, flashing money and just think straight negative. If you put all of that aside then you can see things for yourself. The only gimme fight would probably be his last 2 fights in his career.

2006 called They want their thread subject back Coming from a guy who has Stallone as his AV I don't feel the trollspeak like I probably should. A guy who stole Wepners story that saved him from being a bum that sold his dog for 25 bucks at a liquor store. A guy that did **** because he sucked so bad at acting. A actor that sucked so bad he lived in a bus station for three weeks. A guy that had a billion dollar franchise and didn't throw Wepner any money for stealing his story until he got sued for it. Classy guy you got there. Have a good weekend.

I don't know why people can't be honest about Floyd. They either say he ducked everyone or that he fought "nothing but the best". Neither is the case. He didn't straight duck anyone but there were times when he could have fought better opposition. Particularly at the end of his career. That said, his resume is great. You really can't criticize it and if you do, you must think really highly of the guy because the only thing you can say is, "His resume is not PERFECT, it's only close to perfect." Good points but who's remume is perfect?

Lets get something straight about Floyd Mayweather --- when he got control of his career after breaking from Top Rank and beating Judah he's fought nothing but the best. Haters that say he avoided guys until they were weak need to do their research and eat crow. Floyd was calling DLH AND SSM out long before that so no arguments can be made he never tried getting those fights. He called Tszyu, SSM, and DLH back in 2005. Proof below. That cat's toofeses was coming out y'all, nahmean! The evidence will show Bob Arum said the DLH fight would make no money and 13 months after leaving Top Rank Floyd broke PPV recods and tapped DLH's asś. Since Floyd left Top Rank he fought: Baldomir (had to grab the WBC belt to get DLH) DLH Hatton JMM SSM Ortiz Cotto Guerrero Alvarez Maidana Pacquiao Berto McWelfare For someone that avoided fighters, I would say that evidence states the complete opposite. I do know for a fact(because ssm admitted it)that Floyd was tring to get Mosley when he was at 130 and Mosley was 135 AND Mosley tured it down.Too much risk too little reward was Mosley reasoning.