Jack Johnson underappreciated

a white middleweight knocked him on his ass.

Before Jack Johnson won the world heavyweight tittle in 1908 he won the colored heavyweight champion title in 1903 and successfully defended it 17 times. When he won the world heavyweight title he vacated the colored heavyweight title.

He definitely had balls to live the way he lived during that era. His whole existence was a big F You to the world. Yea BIGGEST SET of almost anyone in history.I still cant believe he was not killed really.

He definitely had balls to live the way he lived during that era. His whole existence was a big F You to the world.

I think I've seen that. I don't really remember all the details of Johnson's story, but I do know he was a bad man. I believe he would've been a great fighter in any era I've seen. He definitely looked like a very difficult fighter to have to face. Yea he was 1st to really revo defence.(kinda like Dempsey and later louis did with offence)He was 1st heavy anyways to use his hands to parry blows.Like slappimg down shots with his gloves not just block with arms.

hey ZARYU yes he was a bad man.Remember seeing interview with Ali in about 78 where he is talkin about Jack and saying some of the things I said in 1st post.And he was like "jack Johnson was a bad man I mean I'm a bad man but that n..g.r was crazy"Them were Ali words and you could tell he was serious it was funny. I think I've seen that. I don't really remember all the details of Johnson's story, but I do know he was a bad man. I believe he would've been a great fighter in any era I've seen. He definitely looked like a very difficult fighter to have to face.

Jack Johnson was a true bad@ss hey ZARYU yes he was a bad man.Remember seeing interview with Ali in about 78 where he is talkin about Jack and saying some of the things I said in 1st post.And he was like "jack Johnson was a bad man I mean I'm a bad man but that n..g.r was crazy"Them were Ali words and you could tell he was serious it was funny.

Jack Jackson breaks the colour line at HW and then proceeds to draw it up again. Hypocrite. :bottle: Had no choice NO ONE was going to PAY ANYTHING to watch 2 black men fight eachother for title.Plus like I said earlier he had already beat EVERY top black fighter at time ALL more then once.

Jack Jackson breaks the colour line at HW and then proceeds to draw it up again. Hypocrite. :bottle:

Jack Johnson was a true bad@ss

I'm just sayin the guy should be thought of as a hero in usa and esp black community.But it seems like he has became almost forgot.Great book called unforgivable blackness it also has a PBS Ken Burns documentary that's about 3hrs long.I love docs and that about the best one I ever seen.This guy at time was even dislike by many so called"respectable black people"because all the trouble that would follow(hangings,beatings)after he would beat another white fighter or be in paper with white girls.And he could not care less.Can you imagine how many times this guy must have been in the sights of a gun.

He broke the baseball color barrier not a "sports barrier". Jackie is known for the baseball transformation. Johnson succumbed to the promoters to come out of exile, his championship belt was worthless to him outside of the States. I don't blame him for bending he needed to get back home. He actually lead a comfortable life after those tough years and was exhibition boxing late in his life. He was a wild one. Ray You keep writing that JR broke baseball barrier.I KNOW THAT but if you ask most people their leave out baseball part. I said that in all my posts so don't know why you keep sayin that.And like you said he bent to promoter that's not true he bent to US GOV and he had no choice if he wanted to come home or defend his title.(ww1 had broke out in Europe during his exile there)And if you sayin he somhow sold his title(like took a dive)I don't believe that for one sec he was 37 and out of shape and was kicking azz till around 15th or so and then was worn out and was koed in like 23rd or close.

He broke the baseball color barrier not a "sports barrier". Jackie is known for the baseball transformation. Johnson succumbed to the promoters to come out of exile, his championship belt was worthless to him outside of the States. I don't blame him for bending he needed to get back home. He actually lead a comfortable life after those tough years and was exhibition boxing late in his life. He was a wild one. Ray

" Jackie Rob broke the color barrier.He broke the barrier in BASEBALL in late 50s"..... Try 1947 not the late 50's! Robinson propelled a team that lost to the World Series and was the main reason they got over their hump. People can't help being born "when their birthed"! Robinson was an outstanding man and never wavered on his morals or convictions. No one I know doesn't hold Johnson in very high regard as a fighter and someone who pushed the bigots and racists to their limits but in the end he succumbed to their actions . Ray OK so I was decade off on Rob buts it still 40 yrs so what your point?And my post had nothing to do about bashing Rob its just that if you ask most people their leave out that baseball part(which is what that was about)they jusy say "he broke color barrier"Most don't even know who Jack was.And if your referring to him not giving black fighters a shot after he won title"but in end he succumbed to their actions"It was beacause NO ONE AT THAT TIME WANTED TO SEE 2 BLACK FIGHTERS FIGHT FOR TITLE.Plus he had winning rec with all top black fighters at time(Langford,mcvey,jeanette and Denver Ed Martin.

" Jackie Rob broke the color barrier.He broke the barrier in BASEBALL in late 50s"..... Try 1947 not the late 50's! Robinson propelled a team that lost to the World Series and was the main reason they got over their hump. People can't help being born "when their birthed"! Robinson was an outstanding man and never wavered on his morals or convictions. No one I know doesn't hold Johnson in very high regard as a fighter and someone who pushed the bigots and racists to their limits but in the end he succumbed to their actions . Ray

And jack takin heavyweight title from white race at that time when boxing(and horseracing)was the biggest sport.It ment a lot more then losing 2nd base on the dogers.This is when "the white race" had to admit their were not physically dominant over the black man.