how long would bummy last against prime Mike?

After watching tonight's fight, I think Wilder would've battered the smaller Tyson in his prime.

Maybe. The point of the screen name choice was that Pac is my generations Duran. A legendary fighter that took on anyone at any weight. And you are right! Both are great fighters.

Off t: I just wanted to tell you Duran would have murder Pac. Maybe. The point of the screen name choice was that Pac is my generations Duran. A legendary fighter that took on anyone at any weight.

Wilder defintely has the Height, Length, Power and athletics to beat Prime Tyson, the only thing he is missing is a good jab. If he had a jab even decent he could.

I wouldn't say Josh has a fragile chin. Dillian White caught him with the best punch he'll ever throw and AJ seemed to be troubled only for like 10 seconds. That Vlad straight right, if it had landed on his jaw, would have left him unable to get up by 10, but any Heavy would be the same. Joshuas chin is solid, one of the reasons I favour him over Wilder. It's his gas tank that his trainers should be worried about. He needs to drop muscle, get down to about 230-233. If Wilder can box off the back foot and win the cardio battle he might just take it. This fight will be won in training for sure. Cardio will be key. Joshua can't afford a mid round loss of steam. If I was Wilders trainers i'd focus on nothinf but cardio and body punching. Need to attack that weak gas tank. Off t: I just wanted to tell you Duran would have murder Pac.

Both have fragile chins and huge power...thats what makes this fight interesting I wouldn't say Josh has a fragile chin. Dillian White caught him with the best punch he'll ever throw and AJ seemed to be troubled only for like 10 seconds. That Vlad straight right, if it had landed on his jaw, would have left him unable to get up by 10, but any Heavy would be the same. Joshuas chin is solid, one of the reasons I favour him over Wilder. It's his gas tank that his trainers should be worried about. He needs to drop muscle, get down to about 230-233. If Wilder can box off the back foot and win the cardio battle he might just take it. This fight will be won in training for sure. Cardio will be key. Joshua can't afford a mid round loss of steam. If I was Wilders trainers i'd focus on nothinf but cardio and body punching. Need to attack that weak gas tank.

I believe Windmills would vacate rather than face prime Tyson.

Prime Tyson destroys any heavyweight in this era and does so very quickly.

Very nice summary of Tyson when he was in his heyday. He also was a nerd... !!??? Yes a nerd, he hit the books as hard as he hit opponents. You can watch him implement subtle things, especially done by Dempsey. For example, people tend to look at Dempsey wailing and say things like "they had no technique back then, dude punches like a girl, etc etc. Dempsey, and Tyson used to do this: would set up hit then pivot into the next position to hit the guy before the guy was even there. So when a guy went forward, instead of trying to reach around him? Dempsey/Tyson would take a step to the center first. Seems easy enough but it takes a great sense of positioning, distance and timing. Tyson when focused would be a good fight for any heavyweight in history. He was hard to hit, I would not say his jab was much of a weapon personally but, his footwork, evasive head movement, and his punching with either hand equally hard made him a force to be reckoned with. Its hard to imagine Wilder catching Mike... Wilder is getting much better putting combos together, but Mike was a hard man to catch coming in. Yep, Tyson was a student of boxing history. He had Cus's (RIP) entire catalog of old fights he watched.

Both have fragile chins and huge power...thats what makes this fight interesting Mike did not have fragile chin not even close.And I'm not one of those guys who think he could have beat Ali or even prime Holmes.But you see all those punchers that he took from Buster??And Buster could punch some and also Holyfield fight.That right hand in 10th(round before stop) he got caught throwing a right his whole body was moving forward and Holyfield was just shifting all his weight into his right.That was one of the hardest shots I have seen.Tyson had very good chin.And for bully he never quit like most.btw he staggered across the ring in Holy fight but never went down from that shot.

Tyson should win easy, but Wilder is a live dog, he could catch Tyson, if Douglas could so can Wilder If douglas can do it so can Wilder? Lol no he fkin can’t. Douglas is way better than Wilder especially on that night. Wilder is a bum. He don’t have the fundamentals and technique to do what douglas did against Tyson.

Nah no way 50/50. Wont be a blow out but Wilders chin is fragile and his technique is laughable at times. 65/35 Joshua. Both have fragile chins and huge power...thats what makes this fight interesting

Joshua would be 50/50 with Wilder... Thats why those 2 need to fight That I agree with.

If Wilder just had Buster's jab he would be best heavy in world right now EASY.

Tyson should win easy, but Wilder is a live dog, he could catch Tyson, if Douglas could so can Wilder Wilder could never dream of having the skills of Buster(and I'm a fan of wilder)Buster problem was HEART,DISAPLINE.But your right he would be live dog for very short time with his power.

Tyson never beat a world class super heavyweight in their prime. It could be argued he never beat a world class heavyweight in their primes. I give wilder a good shot Tony Tucker, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock,Trevor Berbick, Larry Holmes all world class hw's at the time.

those who said Tyson only beat bums don't really know that Wilder is another bum.

Tyson never beat a world class super heavyweight in their prime. It could be argued he never beat a world class heavyweight in their primes. I give wilder a good shot It's very rare that primes of great fighters actually cross over, particularly in the HW division.

Joshua would be 50/50 with Wilder... Thats why those 2 need to fight Nah no way 50/50. Wont be a blow out but Wilders chin is fragile and his technique is laughable at times. 65/35 Joshua.

If wilder adopted the bone crusher smith style he could last the whole fight, now him winning is another topic. wilder only throws windmills when his opponents are hurt.