I know a lot of people when they think of Spinks they think of Tyson fight.And also that bs about him being afraid.If you go back and watch that fight he DID NOT fight afraid.Even after 1st kd whats he do?Run? NO he tried to catch Tyson with his best punch(overhand right)and Mike catches him.Also if you were a boxing fan back then NOBODY talked about their fear like Spinks.I mean he talked about be afraid before EM fight for title and the Qawi fight.He was most honest fighter when it came to talkin about fear(which ALL fighters have)I remember him talkin about when Butch Lewis told him he had holmes fight and he was like"are u nuts!! he is a heavy"So I don't think he fought anymore scared in Tyson fight then any other(which he had normal fighter fear).
You can deff argrue 2nd fight(had Spinks shading it but about 2 3rds 65% disagreed with me)But Spinks def won 1st fight.
Agreed. No question I my mind he won the first fight.
Ah damn you're right. Michael Spinks definitely lost to Holmes. Probably the reason Holmes turned out to be extra bitter lol
You can deff argrue 2nd fight(had Spinks shading it but about 2 3rds 65% disagreed with me)But Spinks def won 1st fight.
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Been here a few weeks and have already seen all that in SPADES.But have been lucky enough to meet some real nice/smart guys too.thx
ohh ok I'm kinda new on here.
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One of the few guys in history that would knock the fvck out of a prime Roy Jones
Yea don't see Jones beating him.But in fairness I think Spinks was a little bigger.
Yes, he is criminally underrated.
One of the all time greats
Arguably the GOAT at 175
During the division's deepest era, he was kingpin
Too bad people only remember him for the Tyson ko1
Yea could not agree more. And have been surprised(and happy) with they amount of love shown in this thread.
yes my bad, i meant to say that Foster dutifully grabbed the low hanging fruit in beating that member of the Quarry family but when he was in with Ali it was a different story.
Yea or any top heavy.D Jones,Terrel I think. And of course Ali and Fraz.Although he is ONLY guy to cut Ali with that fast jab.I think in one of those "Best I ever faced" storys on THE RING Ali picked him as best jab he faced.
yea sutherland was a decent test for a guy who had about 12-15 fights at time.He was a fringe contender at a time when 175 was maybe at its best .Murry was no bum.
hahah not the same sutherland i posted...brian sutherland...kind of an inside joke around here
True about Tyson fight he was in over head.But foster never had ANY success at heavy.That fight you men with Quarry was with MIKE not JERRY Mike was a bottom 10 maybe 175pder at best.Jerry was much better Foster lost to heavy's Quarry would have beaten he was a good fighter in a bad time to be a heavyweight. That Foster ko of Mike Quarry was great huh?He could really punch at 175
yes my bad, i meant to say that Foster dutifully grabbed the low hanging fruit in beating that member of the Quarry family but when he was in with Ali it was a different story.
Yes, he is criminally underrated.
One of the all time greats
Arguably the GOAT at 175
During the division's deepest era, he was kingpin
Too bad people only remember him for the Tyson ko1
Styles make fights...Nothing scares a light heavyweight grabbing low hanging fruit in the heavies than a legit, filled out heavyweight. Foster did his job, he came up and took Quarry out...Quarry was a small heavy, then Foster came a cropper of Ali... All 200 plus pound of Ali with reach, hand speed, etc.
Tyson was at the time, built like Dempsey, not a spare fat molecule on the body, no reach, just strong, quick, and could catch you with both hands.
What could Spinks do? Holmes could not keep Tyson off of him, he was older, but still... Tyson had quick feet, could catch you with either hand, was not getting caught with anything. hard fight for Spinks, did not have the ramrod jab like a heavy, would have had to keep away from Mike, did not have such reach... He had no weapons really lets just say the ring got really small when he fought Mike.
True about Tyson fight he was in over head.But foster never had ANY success at heavy.That fight you men with Quarry was with MIKE not JERRY Mike was a bottom 10 maybe 175pder at best.Jerry was much better Foster lost to heavy's Quarry would have beaten he was a good fighter in a bad time to be a heavyweight. That Foster ko of Mike Quarry was great huh?He could really punch at 175
I'm far from a "green fan"and I think MANY people on here would agree that he has not got his due credit.Im not sure if your "green" or live in St Louis but I hardy ever hear him brought up without it being a joke.Whether it be media or some fans on this post(one of which thought he had no teeth ovs leon).
People say all kinds of things. They used to say that tomatoes would kill you. I doubt any intelligent boxing fan would rank Michael Spinks less than top ten and most would put him in the top five. There is no shame in what happened with Tyson, he had no weapons. What a lot of people do not understand is that you can take a heavyweight and shrink him into a perfect size, not all heavyweights have to have reach and height. Ike eubichi is another one... Mike was just too big, strong and fast. he could hit with either hand.
Foster might have done better because he had a devistating punch and some serious reach. But a boxer puncher...one who was more a boxer? well I would maybe bet on Tunney, but even Tunney got caught by Dempsey and almost lost, and Mike hit that hard and perhaps harder. Its just a hard fight to map out and execute. In those days if you took too long to breath Mike was on you tattooing your a ss lol!
Did you see it live? Just the Youtube vid?
You should have seen him pre-fight, he looked like he wanted to crawl underneath the carpet.
The only other fighter that looked that scared against Tyson was Seldon who had this frightened grin on his way to the ring. Spinks had a similar demeanor.
Styles make fights...Nothing scares a light heavyweight grabbing low hanging fruit in the heavies than a legit, filled out heavyweight. Foster did his job, he came up and took Quarry out...Quarry was a small heavy, then Foster came a cropper of Ali... All 200 plus pound of Ali with reach, hand speed, etc.
Tyson was at the time, built like Dempsey, not a spare fat molecule on the body, no reach, just strong, quick, and could catch you with both hands.
What could Spinks do? Holmes could not keep Tyson off of him, he was older, but still... Tyson had quick feet, could catch you with either hand, was not getting caught with anything. hard fight for Spinks, did not have the ramrod jab like a heavy, would have had to keep away from Mike, did not have such reach... He had no weapons really lets just say the ring got really small when he fought Mike.
John
Perhaps among very green, or fair weather fans, what is called casuals... But among real fight fans nobody questions how good the Jinx was. Some people think he was the best light heavy ever... Your just hanging with the wrong crowd! I think Tunney was better, but would put Spinxs as one of about 3 "second best" light heavies. lol.
But I agree with you that he is top 5 175.And I guess I'm maybe kinda touchy on it.He was one of my early favs.
John
Perhaps among very green, or fair weather fans, what is called casuals... But among real fight fans nobody questions how good the Jinx was. Some people think he was the best light heavy ever... Your just hanging with the wrong crowd! I think Tunney was better, but would put Spinxs as one of about 3 "second best" light heavies. lol.
I'm far from a "green fan"and I think MANY people on here would agree that he has not got his due credit.Im not sure if your "green" or live in St Louis but I hardy ever hear him brought up without it being a joke.Whether it be media or some fans on this post(one of which thought he had no teeth ovs leon).
It just kills me that this HOFer is thought of as a scared bum who got knocked out in one round in only real fight he ever had.People forget(or just don't know)that was 1st loss and 1st kds he ever had.And of course he was a Gold Medal winner in 76.
John
Perhaps among very green, or fair weather fans, what is called casuals... But among real fight fans nobody questions how good the Jinx was. Some people think he was the best light heavy ever... Your just hanging with the wrong crowd! I think Tunney was better, but would put Spinxs as one of about 3 "second best" light heavies. lol.
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yea sutherland was a decent test for a guy who had about 12-15 fights at time.He was a fringe contender at a time when 175 was maybe at its best .Murry was no bum.