I know about burley, I've watched that fight before. Really is too bad we don't have more tape on him. Really is too bad a fighter as good as he was could be ducked and never get a chance at the legacy he deserved.
I've watched that fight before I'll have to re-watch it though because I don't remember.
Yeah lot of guys in that position, it is sad regarding tape. Regarding their legacy: murderer's row, the black fighters of the day, guys who could be avoided, they need fans with discriminating taste to understand and convey their stories.
Discriminating fans take a lot of ribbing, and there are some writers who can be very aggressive about trying to make sure the older guys were looked at as neanderthals lauded as fine specimens... lol its a back and fourth for sure.
I know about burley, I've watched that fight before. Really is too bad we don't have more tape on him. Really is too bad a fighter as good as he was could be ducked and never get a chance at the legacy he deserved.
I've watched that fight before I'll have to re-watch it though because I don't remember.
Yea Burly would have been easy champ if ever got the chance.Same with Ezzard Charles he was prob best light heavy ever.He fought Moore 3 times before Moore won title.1st two he won by unan dec 3rd he KNOCKED HIM OUT.And this was prime Moore not the one who fought Durelle or anybody else during his reign.He also beat J Maxim like 3-4 times shortly before he won title.Most people just think of the heavyweight version(which was a little underated too).
Well its always good to see that great minds are in the same gutter.:lol1: If you have not, catch Charley Burley versus Oakland Billy Smith below (two parts)Its the only fight ever filmed of Burley. This guy outfoxed Archie Moore! twice!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp9lkBqm6bQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZJP_XLjQs
I know about burley, I've watched that fight before. Really is too bad we don't have more tape on him. Really is too bad a fighter as good as he was could be ducked and never get a chance at the legacy he deserved.
Spaddy was good but he got a gift versus Sosa
I've watched that fight before I'll have to re-watch it though because I don't remember.
There isn't one boxer with as little athletic ability that made it as far in this sport as he did. He did it purely with technique. he was never faster, powerful, or stronger, than anyone.
Check out his fight with Israel Cardona. Paulie was massive underdog in that fight.
Look how he boxes inside, outside, turns both ways constantly. Changes up the offense, punches from every angle, punching technique is on point.
That fight with Israel Cardona is like a text book for boxing 101. Dude was pretty brilliant, and as gutter as he sounds when he talks, when he talks boxing, he knows his ****.
Spaddy was good but he got a gift versus Sosa
I don't rate him super high, but technically I do. That fcker knew how to box. Again, that is picture perfect boxing 101 what he did to Cardona.
If you were to train a boxer, that is what you would want them to do.
Don't get me started about pirog. Pirog is one of the sexiest, trickiest fighters I've ever seen in my life. What he did to Jacobs was sexy as fck. Never seen a fighter move like that. To bad he never got to have a full career.
The look on Jacobs face in the short fight tells you everything. I've never seen a fighter hide his punches so well.
Well its always good to see that great minds are in the same gutter.:lol1: If you have not, catch Charley Burley versus Oakland Billy Smith below (two parts)Its the only fight ever filmed of Burley. This guy outfoxed Archie Moore! twice!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp9lkBqm6bQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZJP_XLjQs
I agree he was good tech and like you pointed out very good feet.And I get what your sayin about his lack of athletic ability.Just don't rate him quite as high as you do that's all.
I don't rate him super high, but technically I do. That fcker knew how to box. Again, that is picture perfect boxing 101 what he did to Cardona.
If you were to train a boxer, that is what you would want them to do.
Your posts about Spadi made my day. Only a true devotee of the sweet science can recognize the tradition of the Pittsburgh school of boxing. Like, no no don't take your shirt off, its ok, but when the bell rings, we had the technical brilliance of the likes of Charlie Burley, Billy Conn, and so many other guys... Technical giants, flawless. And truly Spadi was part of that tradition.
When I see guys like Spadi, Dimitri Pirog, it shows what technical skills can do for the sport and for the man. Great posts great posts
Don't get me started about pirog. Pirog is one of the sexiest, trickiest fighters I've ever seen in my life. What he did to Jacobs was sexy as fck. Never seen a fighter move like that. To bad he never got to have a full career.
The look on Jacobs face in the short fight tells you everything. I've never seen a fighter hide his punches so well.
There isn't one boxer with as little athletic ability that made it as far in this sport as he did. He did it purely with technique. he was never faster, powerful, or stronger, than anyone.
Check out his fight with Israel Cardona. Paulie was massive underdog in that fight.
Look how he boxes inside, outside, turns both ways constantly. Changes up the offense, punches from every angle, punching technique is on point.
That fight with Israel Cardona is like a text book for boxing 101. Dude was pretty brilliant, and as gutter as he sounds when he talks, when he talks boxing, he knows his ****.
Your posts about Spadi made my day. Only a true devotee of the sweet science can recognize the tradition of the Pittsburgh school of boxing. Like, no no don't take your shirt off, its ok, but when the bell rings, we had the technical brilliance of the likes of Charlie Burley, Billy Conn, and so many other guys... Technical giants, flawless. And truly Spadi was part of that tradition.
When I see guys like Spadi, Dimitri Pirog, it shows what technical skills can do for the sport and for the man. Great posts great posts
There isn't one boxer with as little athletic ability that made it as far in this sport as he did. He did it purely with technique. he was never faster, powerful, or stronger, than anyone.
Check out his fight with Israel Cardona. Paulie was massive underdog in that fight.
Look how he boxes inside, outside, turns both ways constantly. Changes up the offense, punches from every angle, punching technique is on point.
That fight with Israel Cardona is like a text book for boxing 101. Dude was pretty brilliant, and as gutter as he sounds when he talks, when he talks boxing, he knows his ****.
I agree he was good tech and like you pointed out very good feet.And I get what your sayin about his lack of athletic ability.Just don't rate him quite as high as you do that's all.
I agree Paul Spaddy was a good top 10 lightweight(you could make case for bottom top 5 maybe)And he was very good with his feet and was a good tech but I think using "brilliant" to describe Paul in any part of boxing is a little much.
There isn't one boxer with as little athletic ability that made it as far in this sport as he did. He did it purely with technique. he was never faster, powerful, or stronger, than anyone.
Check out his fight with Israel Cardona. Paulie was massive underdog in that fight.
Look how he boxes inside, outside, turns both ways constantly. Changes up the offense, punches from every angle, punching technique is on point.
That fight with Israel Cardona is like a text book for boxing 101. Dude was pretty brilliant, and as gutter as he sounds when he talks, when he talks boxing, he knows his ****.
I love spadafora.
Spadafora had no power, no speed, no real physical attritubes.
Except that fcker loved boxing amd when he wasn't drinking and shooting hoes, he was boxing, it's all he did. You'll never see such an unathletic fighter accomplish what he did.
He did it by studying boxing and living in the gym. That dude was technically brilliant. He was a genius at using different angles and constantly changing up his attack, making it hard to hit him by turning fighters left and right non-stop.
Don't sleep on spadafora.
I agree Paul Spaddy was a good top 10 lightweight(you could make case for bottom top 5 maybe)And he was very good with his feet and was a good tech but I think using "brilliant" to describe Paul in any part of boxing is a little much.
floyd wasnt in training! yeah because floyd always takes so much time off getting fat and lazy. accept the L! spadafora beat the sh-it outta him. left hand left hand left hand. this is why floyd ducked the crap outta pac. PTSD!
an L?????????????? it was 1 sparring match and its not like he knocked him out(or even down)And I'm sure there was probably a little case of "he did better than I expected" to it also.But really that means nothing.The guy has sparred thousands of rounds
I love spadafora.
Spadafora had no power, no speed, no real physical attritubes.
Except that fcker loved boxing amd when he wasn't drinking and shooting hoes, he was boxing, it's all he did. You'll never see such an unathletic fighter accomplish what he did.
He did it by studying boxing and living in the gym. That dude was technically brilliant. He was a genius at using different angles and constantly changing up his attack, making it hard to hit him by turning fighters left and right non-stop.
Don't sleep on spadafora.